The ATS Issues Thread, page 13

Originally posted by xpert11
None of which excuses a lack of rational thinking or logic . Even when government put documents under lock and key for a long period of time there is often claims of a conspiracy that have some credence because of rational thinking and alleged evidence. For example I have book somewhere entitled the Murder of Rudolf Hess by Hugo Thomas(SP?) . Now aside from the fact there is only author word to go on the case he presents is based on medical evidence and logic . Of course having more then one source for a claim is preferable .

I haven't seen such solid evidence from Lear when it came to his ideas.

That's the entire point of us discussing these topics is to gain insight, apply logic and rational thinking, and to consider the possibilities and whatever evidence may support those possibilities. When it comes to things like UFO's there is a conglomeration of tangible evidence and non-tangible conjecture. That's largely the reason the entire topic of UFO's is largely considered reserved for the crackpots of society. It's this overall mixture of the evidence and what the implications of that evidence really mean that make the UFO phenomenon seem hoaky. But if UFO's are real this goes much deeper than some videos on youtube and some innocent, open discussions on ATS and elsewhere.

There are mounds and mounds of evidence to support the existence of UFO's and I have seen unexplained objects myself on 4 different occasions (all witnessed by at least 3 people). Some of my sightings have been reported on MUFON and can be referened over the net. I am not some crazy person in a straight-jacket nor have I ever been diagnosed with a mental illness. These were all unexplainable events in which an awe was instilled in me that still exists to this day.

To me the UFO reality is all around us. But the implications of that are not exactly widely accepted and it ends up looking like "we're" a bunch of crackpots who are out of touch with reality when "we" are anything but.

There is a huge difference between true skepticism and denial.

My experience on ATS points to the fact that some people look to fit a conspiracy into a situation rather then examine each topic on a case by case basis. People sometimes read to much into a situation or read something that isnt there .

That's exactly true. This is a place where ALL possibilities are discussed because no matter how far-fetched it seems people like to take it and run with it. There's not exactly anything wrong with that but it probably makes for some paranoid people around here I agree.

Excluding the John Lear situation, it isn't very far-fetched to see that if this government secrecy and coverup involving UFO's is really taking place that the government would be extremely interested in places such as this where open discussion on those topics is encouraged and where there is also the presenting of possible evidence and discussion of what that evidence means.

It would be one effective way of the government keeping tabs on what evidence we have to counter that government secrecy. Keeping tabs on ATS in general would be in their best interest to keep that secret safe.

-ChriS