The Way to Start the Revolution

I have come to the conclusion that the only way to beat the establishment of corporate controlled government is to go beyond the notion of a new political party.

We need to form a "parallel" government. With Ron Paul as the new ConFederate government's leader, anyone who wants to join us can prosper with money backed by something of value, and under the freedom granted by the original Bill of Rights.

We can forfiet any "Old Government" entitlements, like welfare and Social Security as it is, and set our own policies, under the guide of the U.S. Constitution, we can stop paying taxes to the US EMPIRE, and pool our resources to build the proper model of what America should be. Our children will inherit a strong economy, and being taught in schools whose ciriculum is set by parents in the region they live will be ready to enter the free market place with knowledge and proper upbringing.

The parallel government will need a strong and disciplined militia, and even given our constitutional right to keep and bear arms, that might prove to be difficult. If we need to, we can make our own arms and ammunition. And train to use them. We'll need to, since the current government is doing all it can to destroy America and freedom, and we'll need to protect what we could enjoy as revolutionaries; we'll have what we need as the OLD dollar collapses, and those who call us Paultards will have no choice but to resort to crimes against the ConFederate followers to obtain necessities in order to live.

I think that we could get enough volunteers at this point to fill the ranks with peace loving, like-minded individuals who want what's best for their family. And that means the opposite of what the "Old Government" wants us to believe is for the "commmon good."

There was a good number of people who voted for Dr. Ron Paul in their respective states' primaries, and I'd like to see how many of those people would back this new ConFederate (or Parallel Government) revolution to keep what America, as it was originally intended, alive and well and prosperous.

We could do a lot of good in the world. Good that should, but isn't, being done with all the tax dollars we all pay.

What do you think?

reply to post by cryingindian



Just so people here understand that I don't mean ConFederate in the historical sense. I use that term "by definition" to mean "against the Federal Government" as it has become.

Bring it on, Government goons. You'll see that I'm a lot like you.


[edit on 5-5-2008 by cryingindian]

count me in....no 3rd party is going to turn this ship around. There needs to be a radical change and i would be proud to be a part of it.

Good luck with this.

As I see it, one of three things will happen.

Your movement will gain popularity, and get backed by more and more people. The government will see where this is going, and try to put a stop to it. It'll result in a civil war, with the same result as the last time something like this occurred. It'll result in massive loss of life on both sides, the original US will win, and it'll leave everyone involved in a worse spot than we're in now.

Or.

Your movement will gain popularity, but only with the fringe groups. Para military types, Manson types, conspiracy nuts, etc. The government will see where this is going, start flooding the news with propaganda, then when enough of you are gathered at one spot, wipe you out similar to what happened at Waco, all the while being cheered on by the general public.

Or, and this is most likely.

Your movement will have a small amount of popularity, among the places you discuss this idea. A lot will be said, little will be done, and eventually people will forget and the idea will wither and die.

reply to post by tebyen


Thanks for your input, Tebyen,

But I don't think war is the way to go. We'll be the real "haves" and the loyalists will be the new "have nots." We'll see if the "Old Government" even has an Army after we establish what I propose. Don't forget that Ron Paul's campaign received more monetary donations from members of our current military than any other candidate.

We'd use war and violence only as an absolute last resort, and only to protect our property.

I'm in. Though I'm afraid this is the only way to turn America around from the current path that were headed on. But I truly believe that it won't work. The majority of the population is allready to brainwashed by the current government. So we would be laughed at and wiped out quickly. And the end result is lots of innocent people getting thrown in prison or killed.

Sounds like a promising idea, might be hard to get off the ground but worth a shot. Need to work out some details, especially how not to have the 'other' government round everybody up on some trumped up tax or weapon charges.

I believe this will be the natural course of events. As the economy collapses and the everyday citizen has to become more self dependent .Loose confederations will emerge in smaller communities,who in turn will become allied with surrounding confederations.
Soon enough you'll have an honest to goodness rival government.The key to all this is communication between the confederation members.The federal government will not stand by and be replaced without a fight.They will try to cut out all unauthorized communications. Food,weapons and wireless radio will be the life blood of the new confederation.To know your enemy you must recoginize what extremes you would be willing to resort to.Then apply that knowledge to your enemy.We all know that the federal government can be totally ruthless when faced with opposition.So we must be prepared to become what we behold.

Just hope you realize what you are saying here is to stand against the biggest Government in the world. I would join that new world with you and defend it with life and limb. We can't do it simiply because there are alot of other orgs. that are already trying to do it. Although it is a good intended thought we must try to fix, what is wrong there in the white house and not try to go to war with it. Because that is in essents what you are impling here. We would have to be well armed and willing to use them on our own people. I myself am not willing to take that step. The times are hard and there needs to be changes that is a fact. We need someone who can stand in the gap for us in the white house and not one who is willing to sell out his own for a euro or something. Ron Paul is that hope though the mass media won't cover him in his mission, he has come along way. The mass media are full of traitors to our nation as well as the government. We must stand strong and remove them all by vote which is the legal means. Hope I have given you another position and a cause to stand for VOTE Them Out!!!!

[edit on 5/5/08 by GeneralT.]

Good in that you want to keep America's sovereignty from erroding, but keep in mind the Government has the military behind it. They will enforce martial law against all militias.

The problem for them though, is that all the soldiers are overseas fighting a proxy war. All that woud be left here to enforce any NWO political agenda would be the National Guard (and not even all of it).

In this context, Canada's military would be used - remember Canada will be part of the NAU by 2010 if it goes as they would like.



[edit on 5-5-2008 by jetxnet]

reply to post by jetxnet


If U.S. soldiers were given a chance to actually adhere to their oath, to defend and uphold the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, they'd see that the proposed ConFederate government is their only true choice, and as such, would be members of our Army. We just need to adhere to the Constitution and we'll be OK. How could the "Old Governemnt" turn our brothers and sisters against us? It wouldn't happen.

I applaud your intention, but (in my opinion) the war to save the constitution has already been lost. The chance to stand up and rescue it has long since passed us by, and current legislation is preparing a way for when speaking up for the constitution will be labeled as a terrorist act (and subsequent imprisonment). Yes, we still have our right to free speech, but an all out assault has been launched against it, and the day will soon come when you will begin to see people in the public eye being imprisoned for speaking out against our government or it's actions.

I'm not saying do nothing, but I believe that anything that can be done at this point will be too little, too late. The damage is done, and it all happened right under our noses. I do try to think positive about this and to believe that it's really not too late, but honestly, I do not see a plausible way out of this situation we are in.

You should watch this clip to understand how screwed we really are at this point..

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I think it would though. There would be several that would "defect", but unless you get a higher commanding officer to do so, many will still follow those higher commanding officers orders.

I'm sure many don't know about all this upcoming North American Union stuff as they are fighting insurgents in Iraq and stationed elsewhere.

The best way to take down the NWO is to first boycott Walmart. Demand US made products and free enterprise businesses (like the Mom and Pop Hardware store). Many Americans would rather pay a little more and support their country, but fact is, Walmart is becoming nearly the only choice.

Boycotting Walmart would force American businesses over there to withdraw from China and start giving people jobs again at home. It will cost a bit more, but then again who cares, look at Gas prices!

US businesses withdrawing from China would also decrease Gas prices as much of the increase for Oil demand has been China's booming economy. Without US businesses there, Chinese economy declines and less demand in Oil occurs, which mean lower prices. China is gutting the US through the huge trade-imbalance led by Walmart.

NWO architects in high government office want to see China build and become a government leader for the 'Asian Union'.

I have been thinking this or something like it for quite some time. The problem is getting the word out. You would think in this day and age, it would be a far more simple matter than it was in the days of our forefathers.
We have the internet and telephones,etc. Many mass means of communications, but more means of surveillance and Big Brother-ship as well. How do you get around that?

reply to post by jetxnet


First off, Wal*Mart could be for the loyalists. There might even be a new store chain called Paul*Mart or something that offered US made products. Our new economy, backed by actual value, would prosper. Corporations which would see the light would hire ConFederate American workers, and produce goods far superior to those goods produced in foriegn lands. The better products would win in the free market. Quality used to mean something when dollars had value, and that ideal would return, taking away the corporations' incentives to cut costs by running sweatshops overseas. The loyalists would have a difficult time buying the better products, due to the fact that their dollars would have less purchasing power. And they, inturn, would come begging to be allowed to enter the ConFederate populace.

The best way is through family and friends. You have to make it clear the consequences of supporting or letting the NWO movement continue, would be detrimental not only to themselves, but their loved ones to.

The problem is, while the Constitution which this country was made great in the form of Capitalism is being replaced by facism or a socialist type form of government with the "Elitist" at the top.

reply to post by sizzle


Sizzle:

This would have to happen almost simultaneously in as many locales as possible. I'm thinking we should first get specifics figured out. Once that is done, it's just a matter of having local "delegates" speak on behalf of the ConFederate movement at places like VFW. It might take a few dates on the calendar to get the support needed, but I think something like this idea would at the very least get people thinking about things.

Not to sound pessimistic, but what guatantees are there that this ConFederation won't later on become another Federation? I'm not implying that this is the intention now, I'm thinking along the lines of the Soviet Revolution - that it promised an utopia, but became the same old feudal system.

I guess everyone who would join a ConFederation would know that they probably wouldn't be able to live in a new America - which makes a revolution even more distasteful. Most likely, many people would begin to ask themselves why they can't just change the current system.

Because there simply are no laws that can create a good government forever. The current situation is the proof of that. You will maybe create a new America for another 100-200 years, then the same globalists are there again. And this for a struggle that could take decades, probably cost a lot of people their lives, be expernsive, and, I believe, would probably end up being a movement of people who use the organization for personal purposes.

Now - to the struggle itself. First off, as we can see in all organizations, there are no single united view. There will always be splinter cells with a similar idea, but not identical. Small differences could mean another organization that can even turn hostile towards the original one. This increases the risk of "internal" fighting, both organizations trying to appeal to the public instead of doing useful work.

Secondly - if the movement is successful, it won't probably be so in years. Obvisously, time is not in the people's hands. This is not because more oppressive laws can, and probably will be implemented (during the building up of the movement). It is for the fact that technology also advance during this time. Better technology means better chance for the Federation to stop the ConFederation.

For example - your movement decides to, say, demonstrate. First you must send this intention to other people in the movement - that is, you must tell other people by phone, internet etc. Better technology means better surveillance of these messages. I mean that they could make you "disappear" before the demonstration ever took place.

But this is not just about avoiding surveillance. It is about the Federation's use of offensive technology too - weapons to use against you during the demonstration. Sound- and light-based weapons could very well become the standard in the near future. Or what about special passes for the subway and busses? Or further down the line - police robots, even though it does sound like sci-fi now, it isn't as fictional when you meet a machine that doesn't care what happens to the people it shoots.

Despite all this, I would really like to see such an ideal movement, but I can't just see such a thing becoming reality. I share the thought with SystemiK: too little too late.

Let me know how I can be of help.
I hope that there will be some type of action before we lose sight of what made this country great.

[edit on 6-5-2008 by sizzle]

Keep in mind that this is no way even close to a call to arms. It is a wake-up call, admitting any current American citizen who wants to to take part in the movement, to get our country back on track towards it's original intentions. The forming of a militia would be a statement of strength, and would only be used to prevent loss of our propeties, rights, and any infringement on our "pursuit of happiness." The militia would not be used for offense.