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Topic started on 5-5-2008 @ 04:12 PM by bigbert81
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Despite all the crap polls people have been shoving in my face recently saying Hillary has a better chance of beating McCain, and all the hate posts
I've gotten lately, I'm surprised that it doesn't look like anybody's posted this as of yet.
Watching the media over the past few weeks, they've gone from thrashing Obama & his acquaintances, to how tough Hillary is. They're using their
pull to lessen Obama's chances and improve Hillary's, all the while posting polls that show Hillary as being the better opposition to McCain;
HOWEVER...
The actual news sources seem to KNOW they're full of it when they show those polls because Rush Limbaugh has been telling his listeners to vote for
Hillary. Why oh why would he do that if Hillary REALLY had a better chance to beat McCain?
Here's the link: www.newsmax.com...
It may be sound unbelievable, but conservative Rush Limbaugh is urging Republicans to cross party lines this Tuesday in primaries in Ohio and Texas
and vote for Hillary Clinton.
“Remember what this is, this is about us winning. You have to understand, it's not about Hillary winning; It's about us winning. It's about our
party winning. It's about those people losing. They've got some problems in the Democratic Party. It's not all sweetness and light over there . .
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reply posted on 5-5-2008 @ 04:20 PM by bigbert81
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And here it is people, straight from the horse's mouth:
RUSH LIMBAUGH, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: We need Barack Obama bloodied up politically
SRC: www.foxnews.com...
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reply posted on 5-5-2008 @ 04:26 PM by Sestias
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Limbaugh and co. want Clnton to get the nomination because they think she will be easier to beat in November than Obama. They're running scared of
him, and well they should. But I don't think McCain would be a slam-dunk against Hillary either. The Republicans will probably only succeed in
stretching the Clinton-Obama contest out longer. They're playing with fire.
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reply posted on 5-5-2008 @ 04:29 PM by Becker44
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Hey bigbert,
I think the negatives far outway the positives when looking at a candidate such as Clinton.
Her polling numbers show a better than 50% unfavorable by likely voters. Rush knows exactly what he's doing in kicking his listeners into a frenzy.
Clinton's negatives are so high compared to Obama's, the pundits realize the general election will be far bloodier than the primaries.
McCain beats Clinton quite soundly because of her checkered and varifiable track record. Obama brings nothing positive or negative to the general
election and quite frankly would pose a viable threat to the GOP.
Either way it'll be fun to watch!
Becker
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reply posted on 5-5-2008 @ 04:35 PM by bigbert81
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Her polling numbers show a better than 50% unfavorable by likely voters. Rush knows exactly what he's doing in kicking his listeners into a frenzy.
Clinton's negatives are so high compared to Obama's, the pundits realize the general election will be far bloodier than the primaries.

Where were you when I started my last thread?
I sure could've used a quote like this to help people understand what I was trying to say instead of it getting WAY off course.
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reply posted on 5-5-2008 @ 05:30 PM by bigbert81
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And here's a little video for anyone who decides that they want to start questioning the more recent polls we've been seeing regarding Hillary
supposedly being better to fend off McCain:
And it's done by a REPUBLICAN! (Luntz)
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 05:25 PM by burdman30ott6
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Never believe polls. That rule holds true for supporters from both sides, GOP & Dems. Far too many opportunity to fudge the numbers through
carefull participant selection and pigeonholing questions asked of those polled.
We don't need polls to tell us why Hillary Clinton would lose to John McCain, especially after the events we've seen transpire over the past few
months. If Hillary Clinton gets the nomination (which I believe she will) it will result in hundreds of thousands of black voters, feeling
disenfranchised and screwed over, staying home form the polls. Historically, when dealing with the Dem candidate winning the presidency, those black
votes have been a major component of the difference. Combine those lost votes with the huge percentage of GOP voters who wouldn't urinate on Hillary
if she was ablaze, and you have a pretty solid victory by John McCain.
Barrack Obama doesn't come with the surety of disenfranchised voters. I'm sure some Clinton supporters will automatically vote against him in the
general election, feeling sore over their cnadidate not getting the nomination, but that number won't apparoach the effect she'd have on the black
vote. BUT, I think the moderate democrats are a toss-up at this point. Between the patriotism questions, religious concerns, and appearance of some
very socialism and activist viewpoints Obama espouses, I'd expect a number of moderates to shift over to McCain's side provided he doesn't stick
his foot in his mouth or do something to make them dislike him.
They can blame Rush for this if they want, but it's all on their own shoulders. Last year this presidency was essentially handed to the Democrats on
a silver platter. The GOP field sucked (In the interest of full disclosure, this is a die-hard far right conservative saying that.) and the current
administration left the average American with a desire to try a different direction. Instead of finding a traditional, supportable, moderate Democrat
candidate, the party decided to make a statement and it has backfired on them. While it might sound nice on paper and make some folks feel all warm
and gooey inside, now wasn't the time for them to try and get a historic candidate into the office. But hey, I've certainly enjoyed watching them
act out the King Soloman & the one living baby Bible story in front of our very eyes.
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reply posted on 8-5-2008 @ 11:15 PM by bigbert81
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We don't need polls to tell us why Hillary Clinton would lose to John McCain, especially after the events we've seen transpire over the past few
months. If Hillary Clinton gets the nomination (which I believe she will) it will result in hundreds of thousands of black voters, feeling
disenfranchised and screwed over, staying home form the polls. Historically, when dealing with the Dem candidate winning the presidency, those black
votes have been a major component of the difference. Combine those lost votes with the huge percentage of GOP voters who wouldn't urinate on Hillary
if she was ablaze, and you have a pretty solid victory by John McCain.

Yep, and it's things like this which is what they mean when they say 'tearing the party apart'. This has been a historic, bloody battle, and I
think we haven't seen half of it from people's retaliation just yet.
However, I don't think Hillary will get the nomination unless she cheats (Fla., Mi.)
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reply posted on 10-5-2008 @ 03:38 PM by resistor
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‘Operation chaos’ is what Limbaugh is calling his bid to get Billary nominated. I call it ‘operation get Billary elected‘, and he’s far from
the only ‘conservative’ talking head doing their best to make this happen. I think that the big money PTB know that it’s going to take every
MSM minion in their employ to get their girl in the white house, and the presstitutes are all pulling together to make it happen. It’s going to be
interesting to watch it work.
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reply posted on 10-5-2008 @ 03:41 PM by bigbert81
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And what's so funny about it, is that they try to show people polls that say that Hillary now has a better chance of beating McCain, all the while
telling their loyal listeners and watchers to vote for Hillary, even though they're pro-GOP.
Rupert Murdoch is a punk!
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