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reply posted on 5-5-2008 @ 05:01 PM by Ihavenoidea
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no transportion out there.... no way to fight the coyotes.... hardly any people,

Yeah one out of the three isn't bad.


reply posted on 5-5-2008 @ 05:50 PM by devildogUSMC
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Hey you live and you learn. One upside to your situation though, however bad your situation gets, the better you feel when you get back up. You learn to appreciate things more, small stuff like curtains and blankets, a sink, a washing machine. How wonderful you must feel now. It's probable that you feel the same as you would feel had you hit the lottery in life where you never lived in a hole.


reply posted on 5-5-2008 @ 06:21 PM by LLoyd45
Originally posted by devildogUSMC
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post by LLoyd45



Hey you live and you learn. One upside to your situation though, however bad your situation gets, the better you feel when you get back up. You learn to appreciate things more, small stuff like curtains and blankets, a sink, a washing machine. How wonderful you must feel now. It's probable that you feel the same as you would feel had you hit the lottery in life where you never lived in a hole.
That's a fact. No matter how comfortable my hole was, I still prefers houses.

My lottery was marrying my wife. She really helped me get back on the right path. Now I find myself thinking of others first, rather than myself. I've also learned some humility too


reply posted on 5-5-2008 @ 08:56 PM by jackinthebox
I’ve been homeless twice. Well, three times actually, but I don’t count the middle one since it was only for a month or so in the Summer.

I was nineteen the first time. I was living at home with my mother and brother. After my parents divorced, things had gotten really bad. We went without heat a lot of the time, and exchanged canned goods at Christmas time. Part of the roof caved in, and the back wall of my bedroom turned into a sheet of ice. We had no car, there was no public transportation in the suburb, and social services only awarded us $32 a month in foodstamps. I had been going to college and working, but when our car went, that was the end of the line. Well, the real end came that Spring when my father sold the house at a 50% loss.

I did the street thing for a bit, until I found an old pop-up camper out in a field. There were people around, but like the OP said, the trick is to remain unobtrusive if you don’t want to be robbed, attacked, or just run off. It didn’t hurt that there was a homeless camp not too far away that attracted more attention. I did not associate with any of them. Most people never knew I was homeless, even though my job was collecting nickels. I also got some work from a landscaper, but if he didn’t come around by ten A.M., that usually meant that he would be spending his day and whatever money he had at OTB. So I would be on my way. There were a few people who I would talk to who might give me a “hook up” here and there. A burger maybe. One girl at the supermarket used to slide an item or two down the belt that didn’t show up on the receipt.

Winter got rough. Shelters really are bad news. A lot of nights I would lock myself into one of the men’s room stalls at the all-night supermarket, and sleep a few hours sitting there on the toilet. During the day I went to the library a lot. One thing to keep in mind too, is that people don’t usually think twice if they happen to see you asleep somewhere during the day. At night, they will know you are homeless and give you trouble.

Anyway, long story short, I did end up finally getting into an apartment that Winter. A girl I had known from high-school had been kicked out of her house and had a little bit of money and a job. I had more money, and found a job working at a gas station within a few weeks of moving in. It was a nice bit of luck that the job happened to be on the far side of the parking lot from the apartment.

Within a year and a half, the relationship went bad. I was looking to get and stay out of trouble. I had done some things of an entrepreneurial fashion to get by in high-school and wanted to let all of that lifestyle go. She wanted to get deeper into it. So again, long story short, I was homeless once again. Only this time I had a couch to go to at least, and once again I got lucky enough to find a job in walking distance Especially since my beat up old Cadillac coupe decided to die while I was moving out of the other place, leaving everything behind that wouldn’t fit in my trunk in the fifteen minutes the police allowed me. I had paid for everything in the apartment pretty much. All of the furniture and what not. But she got it all because of her superb acting skills and probably some other skills that I won’t elaborate further on. Oh well, I had no place to store furniture anyway.

By this time, my brother had saved up some money and was looking to move out of his girlfriend’s basement. So we got an apartment together. That was many years ago now.

As many of you may know already. I am homeless once again now. But that is for another post another time I think.


reply posted on 5-5-2008 @ 09:02 PM by mybigunit
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As a kid we were homeless a few times. I grew up in a very dirt poor single mother house. We were in shelters not on the streets but it still was not fun. I told you what I am doing. I have buckled down big..I dont spend money right now and Im getting the garden action going...freaking seeds are getting expensive its pathetic. GWB is a moron and I cant wait till he gets our (sorry I had to throw that in) Im doing a complete 180 in my life from eating out every night driving fancy cars and living crazy to garden spending no money and driving a little 35mpg yaris. Even if things get better which I dont see it happening Ill never be the way I was again,


reply posted on 5-5-2008 @ 09:09 PM by jackinthebox
reply to post by mybigunit



Well, it's no wonder you went on a sort of "splurge bender" after growing up like that. I can't say I blame you. But at least you have an insight that very few of us have. And that is to be able to see the world from two seperate perspectives at the same time. It's like 3D common sense.

I've never been all that well off in my adult life, but when I was young I had everything. It was a rude awakening to have the rug pulled out from under me in my mid-teens, just when I was supposed to be making the most critical decisions of my life.


reply posted on 5-5-2008 @ 09:16 PM by PlausibleDeniability
Great post Llyod! Like many others here I went homeless for a little while too.

I moved out of the house I was renting to go live with my girlfriend 300 miles away. Well things didn't turn out so good when I got there. I left her and moved in with my best friend. About a week later I got into an argument with my boss at the shop I worked over the piddly amount of cash he was paying me (he told me I was going to be payed A LOT more then what he ended up giving me). I told him I couldn't live off the money he was paying me and so the twisted asshole fired me the next day. To make things even better my friend got laid off and eventually we were BOTH homeless.

We had about $1500 combined from our last checks to live off until we could figure something out. We found one of those donation stations where they set up a truck trailer and people dump off their junk they don't want that they think may be of value to someone else. We hung around there every single day waiting for people to drop stuff off. We got cloths, blankets, dinky stuff we could pawn off, and books to read so we wouldn't go insane and plenty of other misc stuff to help us live better. People would drop stuff off at night sometimes and as soon as we started digging through everything all these really strange people would just appear out of the surrounding bushes and swarm us like piranhas.

We would go to safeway and buy little pizzas they had for a dollar and would cook them in an oven at a nearby gas station and split it between us. When I see those little pizzas now I wanna puke. We ate those damn things almost every single day for months. Sometimes a friend of ours would let us sleep over occasionally on the coldest of nights but we were definitely not welcome there like we used to be. We befriended a lot of nutjobs and drug dealers just for the off chance they would invite us over. It sounds weird but many times these people would disappear from their house and just leave us there or would go to sleep almost like they forgot we were with them. Sometimes there would be a group of people at these places and we would just try to blend in so we could sleep in a warm spot for a night.

I hated having to associate with these scum. Many of them were extremely shady people and we often felt like we were be set up for something. But nothing too terrible every happened to us. Not having a place to sleep every night was also extremely depressing once it got dark and I started thinking about it more and more. I'm actually kind of glad the whole situation happened though, as it was one of the most interesting times of my life. I learned a lot about the world and gained a lot of street smarts which I had none of before that.

If we didn't have the money we did though I don't know what I would have done. I'm a germaphobe so dumpster diving for food would not fly with me. We used that money solely for food and occasionally for other things. I've never been able to stretch that much money so far and probably never will again I'm still in debt due to all the bills I had to abandon during that time, not to mention two contract cancellation charges I ate it on.
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