ET-Channelers: Con Artists vs. Genuine Messengers

reply to post by menguard

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i agree we are own own guides we are our own higher selves like you say tif we say that then we would be told we were crazy, personally i feel the only way to hear truth is from your own journey of self discovery, yes these people in a way are guides in a form whether its fact or fiction i that would be for the individual to decide,
namaste

reply to post by serin sister

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Thank you for (your worlds point of you), fresh air is fresh no matter the amount of oxygen in it.

[edit on 23-5-2008 by menguard]

reply to post by menguard

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oxygen funny you should say that i got one of those oxygen bars tee hee

I was just perusing topics when I came across this particular one and it occured to me that while some of what I happened to read was retalitory and perhaps veering a bit off topic for the most there was a good deal of insight in this topic about channeling.

I can say I've researched many channelers at all, in fact the ONLY channeler I have paid attention to is BASHAR but from the start I completely and utterly devoted my attention to his insight.

If I may offer my opinion on him alone its this: Whether he's a fraud,crazy,or completely on point with where he gets his knowledge, it matters not. The information he offers is very useful. It might even be said that what he offers is basic and perhaps not extraordinary knowledge at all, but it makes sense and in the context he uses it in I believe it to be information that few would realize on their own.

Just in the topic of "excitement and happiness" he truly hits the nail on the head.He dabbles very little in foretelling future events and what is to come and instead focuses on the INNER-Existence of man.

Bashar is authentic if in nothing else, in delivering a message we've BEEN needing to hear for a very long time. That being that we need to follow a path our happinesse dictates and not what the bills or outward pressure insist upon. Cant blame the man for offering knowledge like that.

The thing about channelers is practice makes perfect. Omni magazine did a story on the channeling phenomena in the 1980s and the reporter caught a famous "channeler" while she was practicing her voices and moods. This person had written dozens of books and was believed by many. I am probably going to get flak for this, but I am highly skeptical of anyone who claims they can "channel".
I had asked on another thread on Sgt Stone if he would have himself tested or to show some proof of his "abilities". I was never answered, except someone who objected to my use of the term "we" (I should not of used it). They want to believe in this and it is their right, however, I would like to see proof of the claim before I will say this is real. It is just more of the old 1970s New Age stuff.
Remember mood rings, pyramid power, and pet rocks?

to assume that channelling is not real would also denote the opposite as well, that prayer does not reach the ear of god.

and so be it, cause personally im not to sure about a all knowing god figure sitting on the throne any more. im leaning towards spirit and energy like most others.

i personally cannot channel,therefore i cant say weather channelling is happening or not,only someone who can actually channel can tell if someone is or not.

BUT! in another thread, UFO REALITY posted a portion of a 1970 documentary which had a few witnesses to a channelling session were a military man in a trance was asked questions by others around, some questions pertained to mathematics to a high degree which they were positive this man could not answer.

The Problem with that kinda of assertion is that for one your accounting for every individual who practices channeling, this is far beyond your ability to reasonably confirm as fact although ofcourse your opinion is duely noted I would point out that some of these personas have if nothing else, meaningful information to offer. I refer to (as previously stated) BasharBashar-Finding your highest excitement I will also say that to say ALL channelars are fakes is to say you this deffinitively and to do that you must present proof. There is much IMHO that as humans we cannot possibly know, that we cannot possibly hope to obtain glean meaning of unless there is something outside of our influence throwing us a bone. While that may SEEM highly unlikely to some it is and for as long as we remain in the limited understanding we are in now still at best only subject to speculation.

reply to post by Averysmallfoxx

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Channelers have to prove they have the ability. I have read about so many "channelers" ending up being frauds that I can establish most are. My definition of channeler is someone who has an alien (or other type of entity) go into their body and become that entity. All (yes all) the videos I have seen of people who do this are laughable at best. Bashar must be laughing all the way to the bank as that was one of the phoniest channeling sessions I have ever seen. Yes, one has a right to believe in this aspect, I just think it is New Age bunk. I could be wrong on this, but this is my opinion. This is one of the biggest reasons Ufology is laughed at by the serious scientists.
I do believe that there are some people who can communicate telepathically. They may actually receive messages from aliens/entities. I do not immediately believe the claim, but I do think there should be study of it. Betty Hill would be an example where she communicated with the alien aboard the craft.

[edit on 9/30/2008 by kidflash2008]

reply to post by kidflash2008

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Well its like I always say. If you dont want to keep an open mind,you wont. You say bashar bogus and ofcourse its your right to believe whatever you'd like,but if you listen to what he says about LIFE, hes got a plethora of valuable advice.Not ground breaking information on aliens and future events mind you, but then that type of info doesnt help much in day to day life anyways. do some more research into bashar and you'll see he doesnt fall in line with the hack jobs you THINK he does.