I apologise for derailing the thread, but felt in a way compelled to try to address in some one of the sub questions indirectly raised through a previous derailment, again I am sorry

In a way it really depends on what generation your from with regards to the sub question of the age of consent.

Around 100 years or so ago it wasn't that unusual to be married/ have your own family by at least 16, this was/ as largely been seen as a trend of the time as people tended to wait until their early twenties before then in the Victorian era, and during/ after the 2 Worlds Wars the average age of marriage and consent started to creep back up as people focused on careers/ education and things like social movements rather then setting up families (rebelling against what their parents/ grand parents did perhaps by viewing them as a enforcement or tradition). There was a dip back though during the Sexual movements in the 60s/70s and is currently headed back to were it stood during most of our Grand Parents (or in my case, Great Grand Parents time).

We could go further back and link this generally with the life expectancy nature intended , the lower the age expectancy is in that period of time the general age of consent is likely to be proportionately lower as well. Back in Prehistoric time teenage pregnancy would've been pretty common since you would be a truly ancient individual if you survived up to 40. Average lifespan back then was about 18, average age in ancient roman times was about 35 (Cato the Younger committed suicide at age 48, complaining he had outlived almost all of his contemporaries back in 46BC).

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Ok, so back to the topic at hand though for me, while I believe she made several bad mistakes with regards to certain decisions and clothing choices and while I agree sexualisation of teenagers and children in general is a bad thing especially morally these days (especially since there is so much to do these days and more time to do it in compared to what nature intended for us) that its also likely to be in someway ingrained in most of our minds, genes and sex drive (as a result built in urges by nature) to have an attraction to young people (Considering Nature wanted us dead by 30ish), especially if the individual in question as a strong sex drive.

Though I want to state that I don't agree with or condone such things as teenage pregnancy, Ephebophilia and so on.

Eh.

Miley Cyrus knows what she's doing. She's setting herself up as jailbait, and she's doing it on purpose.

It's not like this is the first time she's been in this sort of spotlight. It's not even the second.

Awhile back, she was being criticized because of some pictures of her with another girl in a hotel somewhere. Think "Lady and the Tramp" spaghetti scene, except with a twizzler.

A little bit later, her private myspace pictures leak out showing her making several poses in her underwear, in skimpy bikinis, and so-on. One of them showed her flashing a bra while standing next to some boy. In another picture, you could clearly see erect nipples beneath a thin cotton shirt.

Every time, she says it was all innocent and there was nothing sexual and she's sorry she hurt her fans, blah blah blah. Every set of pictures that come out makes her look sluttier and sluttier.

Sure, at 15 you can be lead into mistakes like that. But by 15, you're also old enough to learn from those mistakes - unless of course they aren't mistakes, and you're flaunting your jailbait body on purpose.

I don't care if she's only 15, she's still a little whore like the OP said.

And she has fugly teeth, too.

I( don't think it's her, so much as the people who are advising her.

A 15 year old is in many ways still a child - they may not look it, but a child is what they are.

And yes that goes for 16 as well, despite the AOC in many countries.

I don't blame the girl - I blame those who are advising her, including her father presumably.

Trying to portray an immature girl of that age as a sex symbol is sickening.

Originally posted by dbates
Okay, which image is more scandalous? The advertisement in question, or her usual attire?

Well, the picture of her on stage is just showing clevage...

Is the dress strapless? irevelent either wau though...

This picture in the ad is not an issue of how much skin is showing...

The picture is very sugestive, and leaves it open to interpritation.

Women are going to show clevage all the time... at least thats how it is in America now... clevage 24/7... clevage everywhere...

Originally posted by TKainZero

Originally posted by dbates
Okay, which image is more scandalous? The advertisement in question, or her usual attire?

Well, the picture of her on stage is just showing clevage...

Women are going to show clevage all the time... at least thats how it is in America now... clevage 24/7... clevage everywhere...

And what's wrong with cleavage? A womans body, or humans body for that matter, is as natural as a deer walking through a meadow. This goes back to the persecution of women as depicted in the story of Adam & Eve where the woman does the wrong and condems all humanity.

Looks trashy to me.................

And I had the thought pop into my head it was a provocative exploit to look as if a traumatized victim was getting a hooker make over.

If it was a teen guy with his shirt off it would be no big deal, but since it is s female and you can see her shoulders, well that is just too close to her natural mammary glands. This is what pornography feeds upon, the point where a young woman turns from a human being into a sex object mainly because she has two enlarged bumps on her chest. What happens if she gets overweight? Then she is a slovenly pig / former whore? This sickens me and is why I usually ignore the culture nazis - glorified purveyors of moral values and media savy inheritors of the Taliban technique.

Let them who are without sin cast the first stone....

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