Originally posted by AshleyD


No, the words you are looking for are...

(brace yourself since you may not be familiar with this phrase)

A Gentleman.

Originally posted by greeneyedleo


I believe those words are spoken by a TRUE MAN. One who respects women and who has probably experienced true love and has seen the ways of the world from experience

No, hes a male who has been brainwashed by the marxist feminists.

We men have always had that double standard haven't we, where we can go out get drunk, talk smak, burp, fart, go to bars with the morals of an alley cat, pick em up, pump em and dump em and what are we? Oh we are "studs", as we high five our homeboys our boyzzz our crew and we say YOU DA MAN! He's da Man!

Standard "double standard due to sexism rehetoric"

It isn't drugs or alcohol and it doesn't have to be their success that is this influence. Nope the influence is called men. Yeah you know, US you me us and we. Yeah we are the studs but what do we call them when they have their sexual needs met?

Sluts.

Whores.

Bitches.

Ho's

Standard womyns studies rant which both manages to demonise men and relieve women of any responsibillity for their own actions.

Yeah whats so ironic is it is usually when they are so infatuated with an older guy, they stare at the back of our neck while we play our video games for 5-6 hours. Woman are more inclined to think in terms they GIVE good sex but I doubt they are as critical as we are about it as it rarely occurs to us whether or not they GET good sex.

Standard "men are selfish in bed" rant.

We design shoes for them to show off their legs, so hard to walk in we'd break an ankle if we tried.

Blaming us for the choices women make in dressing. etc etc etc ad nasuem.
No hes no "real man" hes a man whose been poisoned, and intellectualy eunuched by feminist proaganda.
You two must be so proud.

Originally posted by Conspiriology

What I am saying is, over the centuries men have subjugated woman and even in America, albeit very differen't, a womans self concept is wrapped up in how she looks.

A males conversely, is wrapped up in what he does.

For a guy with Darwin in his avatar, you dont seem to understand evolution much.


Suffice it to say the reason that men and women do differnt things to attract the opposite sex, is becasue the two sexes look for diffferent things.

Men on the otherhand, are the man and wear the man outfits play the man, act like that man etc.

Are you even on familiar terms with logic?
You complain that "women" (and only women of course :@@ dress up as "mistresses , nurses, and teachers, (female roles) yet the men are bad becasue they "dress like men" Would you prefer it if men dressed like women?

In more exotic scenarios where a guy might want to spice things up, they are most likely to ask HER to bring another woman into it. I know their are exceptions to the rule but woman are more conditioned to GIVE sex without much thought to whether they GET good sex.

If that helps explain

- Con

Yep, you a sexist of the self hating misandrist type.



[edit on 5/5/2008 by Shazam The Unbowed]

Hey, you people.


Stop poo-slinging now... please... i beg of you with my super-member power...


stay on topic...

Originally posted by greeneyedleo


I believe Ashley and I can speak from our experience with MEN. Can you ?

I am one. And since you dont have a penis, by your own rules, you dont get to comment.

Originally posted by greeneyedleo


Hmmmm. Are you a female? Have you ever been a 15yr old girl?

I've seen threads hijacked and go off topic before but this is an entirely different thing! I'm fairly sure everyone here wants to continue this conversation regardless of the fact that what's her name's ad was or wasn't overtly provocative or a new direction for her public 'persona'.

I read some of the posts since I lapsed in my participation and was a bit shocked that this became a debate on sexual expression within cultural norms.

I get that it is clear a person's (in this case apparently a girl's) sexuality is fully functional at the instant post-pubescence is complete. And I know that other nations and culture's clearly value a women's reproductive capabilities over her emotional maturity. I am aware that people in their teens are usually not willing to accept that their judgment on such issues is suspect (in their defense this is usually because us older folks have made world-class errors in judgment we 'project' onto younger people).

But how is this conversation taking form around evaluating the relationship that can exist between two people, regardless of their age? People, children included are not dropped out of a cookie cutter. The vilest and nastiest motivations can exist on either side, as can the deepest and most emotionally illuminating and constructive. To deny either possibility is unrealistic.

One can say that experience favors one or the other, but remember that each observation is only valid now. People, and the way we deal with each other, are always unpredictable and changing.


[edit on 5-5-2008 by Maxmars]

Well, for the record...the whole shoot was done by the uber-famous Annie Leibovitz. It might not have been the best choice for Miley, but her in a sheet and showing some of her (dare I say it) shoulder is fairly tame I think.

Kids have beds too.

If you want an example of bad sheet usage, I'd be way more angry at the KKK than I am over Miley holding a sheet.

Originally posted by AshleyD
All men are sex fiends but the good ones with manners know when to behave.

Yep, she's an expert on men. I think she just won.

Originally posted by Shazam The Unbowed
Lack of a uterus prohibits men from speaking on "womens issues" but the converse does not hold true.

At the risk of a one-liner...very nicely put!

Originally posted by AshleyD
All men are sex fiends but the good ones with manners know when to behave.

So its OK to state that all emn are sex fiends?
Hmm yet If I were to say, "All women are prostitutes" that would be offensive? No double standard here.

Originally posted by ZeddicusZulZorander


Yep, she's an expert on men. I think she just won.

Another victim of the feminist conspiracy.

Originally posted by louiekid333
The picture was clearly supposed to be provocative...like what was already said, the actual picture doesn't matter as much as the idea inspired...

It inspired me to think that Hannah Montana just woke up in the morning.

I hear you though. I think Miley got talked into it for the sake of "art" and didn't think of the outcome.

Ok this thread was about an Ad, and its gone way of topic,

On the topic of the add, if you see it let us know, Right click it so we can get an idea which one it is and get a possible screen shot so we can go from that point,

To discuss this kind of topic I think it would be best for someone to start a thread over on social issues on BTS, that way the topic can be looked in to and conducted in a proper manner,