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Multinationals make billions in profit out of growing global food crisis

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posted on May, 5 2008 @ 09:57 PM
reply to post by mybigunit

Yes indeed, you deserve the credit for the "oil" video that I posted the link to above.

And thanks again for being too busy to post it, and allowing me to do so.

posted on May, 5 2008 @ 10:04 PM
Yeah the money as debt video is a good one. I think all people need to see the 5 parts to that series. I wasnt trying to take credit for the oil I was just saying I didnt need to see it again

posted on May, 5 2008 @ 10:06 PM
reply to post by quintar

I still ask questions about the 2003 blackout. It was back to the 'stone age' rather quickly with no power and no water (because of no power)...I hope this never becomes a reality.

posted on May, 5 2008 @ 10:14 PM
reply to post by ViewFromTheStars

This has been going on for quite some time now but its only a short matter of time before the real enemy takes literal ownership.

The "enemy" took ownership in 1933. Anyone who has a birth certificate was informed on by their mother, and is now the private property of the receivers of the US bankruptcy. You slave number is your Social Security number. Your slave name is your given name printed in all capital letters, as it is on your Social Security card, or your credit card.

Don't feel too bad though, all local and state governments, along with the Federal, were also handed over as default payment. This is why, for example, the sovereign state of Arizona, once abbreviated "Ariz." is now the Federal district of AZ.

There is much more to that story.

posted on May, 5 2008 @ 10:18 PM
reply to post by citizen truth

I'm not a fan of Monsanto,but isn't America the beacon of capitalism?
Bill Gates was hammered with a monopoly fine a couple of years ago,why aren't other uber-conglomerates getting the same treatment???
Back scratching and pocket lining would be my guess.
The world has gone to hell in a hand basket,drifting up the proverbial creek without a paddle in sight.

The answer to your question lay in the fact that Bill Gates is "new" money. In other words, he has the money, but not the power that money can buy. He's not "in" on the whole thing. And by being so rich he makes a spectacle of himself. Money is not power. It is a means to an end.

[edit on 5/5/0808 by jackinthebox]

posted on May, 5 2008 @ 10:21 PM
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

These people don't care anymore if they die because they've been eating misery day-in and day-out for decades. In fact dying in battle is much preferrable than dying of hunger.

And then we wonder why the terrorists are so pissed of.

posted on May, 6 2008 @ 12:56 AM
Gas companies are doing the same thing pretty much, just get over it there is nothing we can do to stop it lol!

posted on May, 6 2008 @ 02:17 AM

Originally posted by Karlhungis

Corporate greed at the expense of millions of lives. I really do wonder how people who work for companies like Monsanto can sleep at night.

The oil bubble and the food bubble have both been manufactured to funnel more money into the hands of the wealthy. Meanwhile the entire world is suffering.
(visit the link for the full news article)

They sleep with the same ease that the lord of the manor a thousand years ago did whilst the peasants he controlled went hungry. What I find astonishing is that government (which includes people from the "peasant" ranks in the UK at least) fall for all the bulls..t that these individuals and corporations come out with "tax us and the economy falters". Yeah right so we should trust corporations like banks to get on it with it unhindered..........I don't think so.

The world is suffering becasue of the billions of tax avoided income in the hands of a very few exceptionally greedy selfish individuals.

posted on May, 6 2008 @ 03:18 AM
The title of the thread is misleading, It is not millions in danger of starving.

According to the UN 2 Billion with a capital B will be pushed to starvation.
The population of the planet is 6 point something Billion.

1/3 of the population of this planet is in danger of starving.

Please notice this is happening at a time when the world is poised on the brink of a pandemic. When those people who just happen to be in the places where the pandemic will originate grow weak from hunger. Pandemic will rage.

The H5N1 currently has a 100 percent kill rate in humans if untreated. An 80 percent kill rate if antivirals are administered soon enough.

We are living in the time of what will be the greatest culling of the human race in it's history.

To put this in perspective the 1918 pandemic had a .67 percent kill rate in the US and wiped out between 50 and 100 million people on the planet.

posted on May, 6 2008 @ 12:52 PM
reply to post by Cyberbian

1/3 of the population of this planet is in danger of starving.

Indeed. All according to plan and on schedule.

Codex Alimentarius (Mandate That Will Starve 3 Billion People to be In Place by 12/31/09)

[edit on 5/6/0808 by jackinthebox]

posted on May, 6 2008 @ 01:41 PM
reply to post by BrezhnevX
Yea.....the Soviets abused human rights, stole land and farms from the Ukraine causing 10's of thousands to starve, killed millions if they went against the regime, oppressed and sent intelligent scholars to the Gulag etc etc.
“However, the industrialization had a heavy cost for the peasantry, demographically a backbone of the Ukrainian nation. To satisfy the state's need for increased food supplies and to finance industrialization, Stalin instituted a program of collectivization of agriculture as the state combined the peasants' lands and animals into collective farms and enforcing the policies by the regular troops and secret police. Those who resisted were arrested and deported and the increased production quotas were placed on the peasantry. The collectivization had a devastating effect on agricultural productivity. As the members of the collective farms were not allowed to receive any grain until the unachievable quotas were met, starvation became widespread. In 1932-33, millions starved to death in a man-made famine known as Holodomor.[“
The Soviets placed high ranking autocrats under a form of arrest and extortion in order to insure that all was done according to party policy.
When Reagan called the Soviet Union “evil” it was an understatement.

Now, we have this same thing going on in the form of multinational corporations, facism in the guise of freedom. Millions will starve as they "collect" the smaller farms and agriculture communites around the globe.
[edited for the standard mistakes]

[edit on 6-5-2008 by whiteraven]

posted on May, 6 2008 @ 01:45 PM
reply to post by jackinthebox

Uhg, couldn't watch past part 3 of that horrific speech. She is nerve racking.

I don't believe speeches, unless I see a transcript with her sources. Otherwise, she could have just made up a story or used unscientific or fictional sources.

posted on May, 6 2008 @ 01:51 PM

Originally posted by whiteraven
reply to post by BrezhnevX


from a russophobic right wing think tank(propaganda)

lol, as usual , nazi propaganda that is regurgitated by USA..... the deaths were not due to starvation but , rather , the deaths of kulak and reactionary Catholic farmers who were deported...

1-1.5 million died due to deportation , not 10's of millions

read this:

In 1922 the Soviet Union experienced severe famine conditions in some areas following on from the wars of intervention when imperialist powers had sought to crush the new Soviet state. Famine conditions recurred again in 1933, particularly, but not exclusively, in the Ukraine. There are two versions to this second famine that are radically different. An objective analysis indicates the famine to have resulted from a combination of poor climatic conditions and sabotage on the part of the rich peasants or kulaks in the face of the collectivisation of agriculture. Ukrainian nationalists however argue that the famine was deliberately contrived by Stalin in order to break the spirit of the Ukrainian people, and resulted in millions of needless deaths, in fact death and destruction on such a scale that it dwarfs the Nazi holocaust. Documentary evidence produced to support this claim is often endorsed by academics such as Robert Conquest, or James Mace of Harvard University. Such evidence is shaky in the extreme and often relies on discredited accounts from the 1930’s pro-fascist press in America, or even Nazi documents. Despite this it continues to resurface, most notably in the 1980s as part of an attempt by Ukrainian nationalists to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the famine, and at the same time to fuel the cold war rhetoric of the Reagan era.

The same old grainy photographic images appear time and time again, purporting to show victims of the Ukraine famine, but these are almost always undocumented, or if traced back actually come from famine relief documents from the 1922 famine or even earlier. Cobbled together in the film ‘Harvest of Despair’ such pictures were shown on UK television despite having been rejected by some public service networks in the US because of a blatant lack of objectivity. Ukrainian nationalist organisations in Canada and elsewhere continue to propagate the notion of deliberate famine genocide, while carefully glossing over their own anti-semitic, pro-Nazi and collaborationist origins. A search on the web for ‘Ukrainian Famine Genocide’ resulted in 845 references to this ‘man made’ famine, as usual graphically illustrated with pictures for an earlier era. In this talk I will explore some of the background to these various claims and counter claims, with reference to the excellent book on the subject by Douglas Tottle (Fraud, famine and fascism. The Ukrainian genocide myth from Hitler to Harvard. Progress Books, Toronto, 1987. ISBN 0-919396-51-8)

Journalistic fraud in the 1930s

In the autumn of 1934, an American using the name of Thomas Walker entered the Soviet Union. After less than a week in Moscow, the remainder of his 13 day stay was spent in transit to the Manchurian border, at which point he left the USSR never to return. Four months later a series of articles began in the Hearst press in America, by Thomas Walker, “noted journalist, traveller and student of Russian affairs who has spent several years touring the Union of Soviet Russia”. The articles described a famine in the Ukraine that had claimed six million lives, and was illustrated with photographs of corpses and starving children. Walker was said to have smuggled in a camera under “the most difficult and dangerous circumstances”.

posted on May, 6 2008 @ 01:53 PM

Louis Fischer, an American writer living in Moscow at the time was suspicious. Why had the Hearst press sat on these sensational stories for ten months before publication? He established that Walker’s short visit to the Soviet Union could not possibly have allowed him to even visit the areas he described and photographed. He also pointed out that Walker’s photographic evidence was distinctly odd: not only were the pictures suggestive of an earlier decade (Fischer thought probably of the 1921 Volga famine) but contained a mixture of scenes taken in both summer and winter. Fischer also noted that the 1933 harvest in the Ukraine had been good.

Some of the pictures were subsequently identified as showing scenes from the Austro-Hungarian empire and World War 1, and it was known that Hearst newspapers were digging up old pictures and retouching them for use as propaganda. Pictures some times appeared labelled as having been taken in Russia, and at other times the same picture is relocated to the Ukraine for obviously political reasons. Not only were the photographs a fraud, and the trip to the Ukraine a fraud, but Thomas Walker himself was a fraud, turning out to be an escaped convict by the name of Robert Green who had served time for forgery. At his subsequent trial following recapture he admitted that his series of pictures used in the Hearst newspaper articles were fakes and were not taken in the Ukraine as stated. Despite these facts, the same photos are still those used in commemoration posters, on web sites and in the film ‘Harvest of Despair’.

The Hearst Press

The Hearst Press needless to say continued with its famine genocide campaign despite the Walker fiasco. This is not surprising when we consider that Hearst himself was known to millions of Americans as "America's number one fascist". (One of Mussolini's chief sources of personal income during the early 1930s was from being a paid correspondent for the Hearst Press).

In 1934 Hearst visited Nazi Germany and met Hitler. Following this visit, the Hearst Press began to promote famine genocide articles on the Ukraine. French premier, Edward Herriot who had recently returned from travelling in the Ukraine publicised the fact that he had seen no evidence of any famine. Following the Walker articles, Hearst went on to try and convince Americans that the Soviet Union was a land of utter starvation, genocide and cannibalism. At the time this was often recognised as politically motivated sensationalism, but over the passage of years these fabrications have become transformed into "primary evidence".

for references the excellent book on the subject by Douglas Tottle (Fraud, famine and fascism. The Ukrainian genocide myth from Hitler to Harvard. Progress Books, Toronto, 1987. ISBN 0-919396-51-8)

so explain me how a journalist could in such a short visit of 10-15 days manage to provide evidence that 6 million died , as i said before , the death toll was much lesser and DUE TO DEPORTATIONS OF KULAK FARMERS

[edit on 6-5-2008 by BrezhnevX]

posted on May, 6 2008 @ 02:05 PM

Another contribution to the famine genocide literature is Walter Dushnyk's "50 years ago: the Famine Holocaust in Ukraine". The foreword to this book is by none other than Dalrymple. Dushnyk's roots can be traced to Europe's pre-war fascist movement when he was active in the Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists. Again a critical reviewer comments that this book, "rather than being a scholarly analysis, the material consists of a highly emotionally charged vitriolic polemic. Indeed it has little to do with scholarship and unquestionably is lacking in objectivity". Once again the same faked or undocumented photographs are used as illustrations. Dushnyk calculates the number of famine deaths by projecting an anticipated population growth, based on the 1926 census, onto the listed population census for the Ukraine in 1939. The difference is 7.5 million and this therefore becomes the number of famine victims. The nonsense of this methodology can be demonstrated by transposing to Canada in the 1930s and showing that 25% of Saskatchewan's population disappeared during the great depression. In fact, the population of the Ukraine increased in real terms from 1926 - 1939 by almost 3.4 million. Whilst it is not possible to give an accurate figure for the numbers of famine victims, the claims of people like Dalrymple, Mace and Dushnyk have been shown up as extreme exaggerations fabricated to strengthen their political allegations of genocide.

The nonsense of this methodology can be demonstrated by transposing to Canada in the 1930s and showing that 25% of Saskatchewan's population disappeared during the great depression.



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:27 AM
reply to post by whiteraven

Thank you for the post. That was an interesting read.

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