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reply posted on 6-5-2008 @ 02:09 PM by weedwhacker
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gottago....are you serious??

Or, are you just trying to be obtuse?

If obtuse, or trying to be humorous....you failed, miserably!!

Folks....the Moon rotates, about its own axis...

A 'day' on the Moon is the same as fourteen days on the Earth. A 'night' on the Moon, same....14 earth days.

These are averages, of course, because the Moon rotates on its axis, as it orbits the Earth....and is illuminated, by the Sun, to provide what we call the 'phases' of the Moon.

So, and no apology to Pink Floyd....there is no 'Dark Side of the Moon'....because, like Earth, all of the Moon is eventually exposed to the Sun....just happens differently than what we see here, on Earth.

(OK...the poles, North and South, on the Moon....they receive less sunlight....just like the Earth's poles....)

There is the 'FarSide' of the Moon....because it is tidally locked, we see only one hemisphere....need spacecraft to view the 'farside'....

BUT....the bloody thing rotates!!!!!! But it is tidally locked, so we see only one hemisphere!!

Gosh! Doesn't anyone understand science? Or astrophysics!?!?!

WW


reply posted on 6-5-2008 @ 02:16 PM by weedwhacker
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seagull!!! Don't go!!!! Tippie Hendron implores you!!!!



WW


reply posted on 6-5-2008 @ 02:23 PM by internos
Rotation and orbit


The moon rotates on its axis once every 29 1/2 days. That is the period from one sunrise to the next, as seen from the lunar surface, and so it is known as a lunar day. By contrast, Earth takes only 24 hours for one rotation.

The moon's axis of rotation, like that of Earth, is tilted. Astronomers measure axial tilt relative to a line perpendicular to the ecliptic plane, an imaginary surface through Earth's orbit around the sun. The tilt of Earth's axis is about 23.5 degrees from the perpendicular and accounts for the seasons on Earth. But the tilt of the moon's axis is only about 1.5 degrees, so the moon has no seasons.

Another result of the smallness of the moon's tilt is that certain large peaks near the poles are always in sunlight. In addition, the floors of some craters -- particularly near the south pole -- are always in shadow.

The moon completes one orbit of Earth with respect to the stars about every 27 1/3 days, a period known as a sidereal month. But the moon revolves around Earth once with respect to the sun in about 29 1/2 days, a period known as a synodic month. A sidereal month is slightly shorter than a synodic month because, as the moon revolves around Earth, Earth is revolving around the sun. The moon needs some extra time to "catch up" with Earth. If the moon started on its orbit from a spot between Earth and the sun, it would return to almost the same place in about 29 1/2 days.

A synodic month equals a lunar day. As a result, the moon shows the same hemisphere -- the near side -- to Earth at all times. The other hemisphere -- the far side -- is always turned away from Earth.

People sometimes mistakenly use the term dark side to refer to the far side. The moon does have a dark side -- it is the hemisphere that is turned away from the sun. The location of the dark side changes constantly, moving with the terminator, the dividing line between sunlight and dark.

The lunar orbit, like the orbit of Earth, is shaped like a slightly flattened circle. The distance between the center of Earth and the moon's center varies throughout each orbit. At perigee (PEHR uh jee), when the moon is closest to Earth, that distance is 225,740 miles (363,300 kilometers). At apogee (AP uh jee), the farthest position, the distance is 251,970 miles (405,500 kilometers). The moon's orbit is elliptical (oval-shaped).


www.nasa.gov...


reply posted on 6-5-2008 @ 02:36 PM by internos
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Well, for example here there's apparently a slightly different take on it

The Earth’s moon rotates (spins on its axis), every 27.32166 Earth days. It revolves around the Earth in the exact same period - every 27.32166 Earth days. Because of the synchronization of revolutionary and rotational periods, the same portion of the moon’s surface is always directed toward the Earth.

www.physlink.com...

anyway here,

Hello Byron

Thanks for your question. The answer is actually 'Yes the moon does turn on
its own axis' and 'yes, we do see the same surface all the time.'

You see the moon turns on its axis at a rate that means that it turns once
every 29.5 days - it also takes 29.5 days to travel around the Earth. As a
result, we always see the same face of the moon.

If you have trouble visualising why this is true - pretend that you are the
moon. Find an object like a chair (you will pretend that the chair is the
Earth). Now move around the chair so that your body always faces the chair.
As you move around - you will have to turn your body so that it faces the
chair. You have to turn your body a full rotation every time you do a full
circuit of the chair.

I hope this helps you.

Cheers

Cameron Millsom

www.newton.dep.anl.gov...

there's a nice explanation that makes the point.


[edit on 6/5/2008 by internos]



reply posted on 6-5-2008 @ 02:53 PM by spacevisitor
reply to post by internos



That is good that you mentioned that, because that is exactly what was said in my original post.
I really immediately thought why the difference, but you made it clear now, thanks.

The Moon's orbital period is 27.322 days. Because of this motion, the Moon appears to move about 13° against the stars each day, or about half of a degree per hour. If you watch the Moon over the course of several hours one night, you will notice that its position among the stars will change by a few degrees. The changing position of the Moon with respect to the Sun leads to lunar phases.


www.windows.ucar.edu...=/the_universe/uts/moon1.html&edu=high



[edit on 6/5/08 by spacevisitor]


reply posted on 6-5-2008 @ 02:54 PM by Solarskye
Here's an example of a non-synchronous & synchronous moon orbit with the earth and sun.

Moon Trick

It's very tricky and I still wonder how it does it so perfectly everytime.

Sorry I can't embedd but you can view it at youtube with my hyperlink.

[edit on 5/6/2008 by Solarskye]


reply posted on 6-5-2008 @ 03:36 PM by Solarskye
reply to post by spacevisitor



It's not unique to just the earth/moon system.
Most inner moons of planets have synchronous rotation, so their synchronous orbits are, in practice, limited to their leading and trailing Lagrange points.


Source

Although this article doesn't specifically mention which moons it does appear that most planets do have synchronous moons orbiting them.

Satellites are an example. Their antenna has to always point to the earth while orbiting.


reply posted on 6-5-2008 @ 04:00 PM by TeslaandLyne
Originally posted by Solarskye
Here's an example of a non-synchronous & synchronous moon orbit with the earth and sun.

Moon Trick

It's very tricky and I still wonder how it does it so perfectly everytime.

Sorry I can't embedd but you can view it at youtube with my hyperlink.

[edit on 5/6/2008 by Solarskye]


Well, as before:
(Since comment is pending approval at Utube I'll put down an approximate post.)

Tesla said all planet Moons do NOT rotate on their axis and
eventually come to a permanent stop if they ever did have rotation.
This is because the rotation is gradually pulled back by the planet.
He diagrammed it out.
My question is why aren't the planets considered moons of the sun
and not rotate.
Mercury has no rotation on its axis.
Definitely rotation denied by the sun.
Did something cause the Earth's rotation?
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