Shards of the Illuminati

reply to post by LucidDreamer85

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Yes it does. However between developing technological shortstops to prevent incursions. Alongside simply maintaining physical separation form those suspected individuals, we manage. In truth, the NIA did spend a great deal of time perfecting their techniques and the abilities of their commandos. Luckily they prefer to resort to direct, physical action then they do intelligence gathering. One major difference between the Shards is our value for Tactics, and their value for brute force to simply crush their opponent. This has, in part, given us the advantage; temporarily.

I personally think that the reason that they have not "tried" to "discover" the three truths, is because they already know them, in part. They certainly do not hold hold all the details, that said, they know enough. Enough to be afraid of it, and enough to pursue us to our ends. As of this moment, they seeks us because we are a potential threat. Only recently have we solidified our position as a legitimate threat. Thus my statement, "the war has only begun."



There are... aspects which seem... accurate... but I would... contemplate its "completeness."



That would not be entirely inaccurate. I will U2U further information.



You many not be "close" to truth, but you are beginning to see what the truth "should" look like. Very admirable from my point of view.

- Maban

reply to post by LucidDreamer85

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Astute observation. Very astute.

- Maban

reply to post by LucidDreamer85

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I think you have placed this into a very easy to understand context, thank you. Few are readily willing to admit that people are "not ready "for something." Bare in mind most people here on ATS think that all secrecy should be absolved for the greater good. When in point of fact, that exact act would cause the opposite. And again, many are displeased that because they do not know the secrets, they are unable to judge their potential effect on humanity. Therefore a personalized exception of secrecy would have to be extended for them to know and then judge it. Something which I am not permitted to do. In addition, if they agreed that humanity was not ready for it, then they would either have to release the information regardless to uphold their ideals. Or break their ideals and uphold them; an interesting predicament wouldn't you say?

- Maban

reply to post by LucidDreamer85

I will respond to your questions in U2U format, which will better allow me to tailor and articulate my responses to you personally.

- Maban

I enjoyed Appleseed. Nice movie. Good series. Hmmm.. not mainstream U.S. media however. Curious if that was made in such a way as to influence folks way of thinking about the world.. for whom was it intended? For a more Eastern-oriented audience? To what degree is each culture focused upon? Is it equal? Or are those countries that can affect more leverage in their goals (i.e. have a larger GNP) focused upon instead?

For the record, this still seems very far-fetched. While the OP seems fairly well-learned, and can indeed, write his way out of a brown paper bag, that doesn't mean he is a member of an elite, secret organization with a NWO type of agenda. I like proof. There is none at all. While he perhaps may be the next version of Neal Stephenson out there, I haven't seen anything that has made me say "Huh, this guy must be telling the truth!"

I hope the OP takes no offense—obviously, you had to expect some folks to just chortle and not take your stories at face value? If you can provide more substantial proof, I'm all ears though.

Thanks for the response. I woke up today hoping you would reply. AFter reading everything you and others have written on this subject , in this thread, I am starting to understand what you speak of.
I understand I don't know the truths or may not be close, but I definately see where you are going with this. I don't think too many people on hear really really really read in depth what you had to say , and if they had, they would have answered their own questions.
I'm very observative . have been since a child, I guess thats maybe why I caught on to the message of what you have told us.

I know in my heart I would be ready for these truths, because just based on the fact that there is so much going on to keep them secret, they are probably beyond my imagination right now. Therefore I could both expect the worse and best from them at the same time.
I'm not super religious so if these truths exposed all religions as inacurate that would not ofend nor effect me at all. I'm actually hoping they do.
Also, I've done so much personal research and just reading for knowledge and fun that I have begun to piece together my own views and way of thinking. Too many times people grasp onto others view points and let somebody else form a conclusion for them . I am infinitely ever forming mine as the days go by , and as I recive and collect new info.
This is why, once these truths are revealed I will be ready for them for the most part, because they will just be another building block for my database of knowledge. They will make me undoubtedly ask more questions, which is a good thing.
It's the equivilent of me beating a video game and tihnking I have conquered allor have won it or know it all, only to realize, that the game has just started and that was the first chapter and there is so much more to this game. ( obviously not saying life is a game....just an analogy)

reply to post by KilgoreTrout

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I will defer my response to the response I gave to LucidDreamer85.



Granted that this dissemination of information does not cause more problems than it solves.



Not quite. The secret itself would wreak great havoc an an ill prepared humanity. The keeping of it only wreaks great havoc on us Illuminons, thus the difference. It is not our part to disseminate the secrets, that is the judgment and right of the Enlightened Ones. We ere only given these three truths to better understand their efforts, and our part in helping humanity. They are a guide for us, that is all. For the NIA it is seen as a threat. Not a threat of what we mean to do. but a threat to what they mean to do. They see it as the only true source of challenge to their control.



Yes. There are secrets which can protect many lives. The sacrifice of one willing life, ours, is a sacrifice worth making to protect these secrets. Secrets which protect life.



When did I say this? I do not want any of humanity to give up any freedoms, never, ever! Illuminons give up freedoms of their own will, to do their duty, to protect humanity.



As I said support is welcomed, however it is not what we seek. We seek understanding. Understanding of what our goal is, that is truly all. The rest, is simply may attempt at helping the rest grasp understanding.




That is an assumption, is it not? You know the saying. I do indeed know all these secrets it is the one of the first things we are told as an Illuminon Inductee. I will send a U2U which hopefully will better explain my position.

- Maban