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Originally posted by Kaleon
3.) Do you think you can give us some hints (or maybe a sketch) of how the lumen ab verum looks like? Does it look like the egyptian paintings of the eye of horus? Or does it look like the capstone of a pyramid? Or does it look like a normal eye? Is it green? Is it round etc. Do you think that the winged disc is a symbol for that device?
4.) Do you think you can disclose to us a little bit more of what the Lumen ab Verum says about "The One"?
I just ask because I have some suspicions about who this person might be and how he will rise and I want to find out if your "records" speak about that person.
So do you think you can tell us a little bit more about this individuals origins, how he will rise, and why you think he might be an enlightened one or else why not?
Is "the one" the same person maban mentioned earlier, whom he has allegedly found and who speaks as if he were a member of the shards although he may not even know about you and who would become an obstacle against darkness in the next few years? Is this Mabans personal interpretation/identification of "the one" or did he speak about a totaly different individual?
Lastly, Lumen Ab Verum = Light of Truth, get it right. Some of the object’s records (IE database) say it was first placed on Earth to observe humanity either 5 million or 3 million years ago. As far as we are able to discern it may have been retrieved for a number of years to “download” its sensory data from, before it returned which would explain the dual dates.
It itself was not carbon dated, it is impossible to carbon date a material which does not decay (i.e. impenetrable / indestructible). Its outer layer is built with a strange white glossy metallic material which as far as we can tell is part physical matter but arranged in a structure which should not be able to physically exist.
Our scientists could only explain its existence with the added possibilities of dark matter or extra-dimensional matter/energies. I honestly have no idea, the Enlightened Ones (yes aka The Great Ones) are approximately 13 Billion Years old (as a species and individually), how the hell are we expected to “know” how the damned thing works when we only have limited access to its massive databanks?!
We did carbon date the Ark it was contained in maxing out at around 55,000-ish years old so we know its older than anything “our” civilization was capable of having or building obviously.
Originally posted by Kvasir
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The only room for interpretation is whether this "individual" has yet to be found by us, or is indeed an Enlightened One whom will find us when the time is right. Regardless, it is by the Lumen ab Verum's instructions that we are to aid this individual once properly identified. This act will bring about the new age of light. It will also eventually render all conventional governments obsolete.
Originally posted by emsed1
reply to post by Kaleon
That is it. It's a rendering Maban made of the object. It also shows the sort of glowing yellow light that emanates from it.
I found a picture in one of Slayer69's posts that struck me as similar, but I have no idea if I am on the right track. I don't necessarily mean that the Lumen Ab Verum *is* the Ark of the Covenant, but this painting is strikingly similar to descriptions I have read, especially the illumination, the intertwined wisps, etc. The glowing light above Maban's rendering reminds me of DNA in a way.
Maban said it was fully capable of protecting itself against any threat posed by someone who wanted to steal it or use it for nefarious purposes. I'm not sure how that actually works but I suspect there is something genetically 'different' in those Illuminons who are tasked with protecting it through history.
This is one of the reasons that I believe (although it remains hidden in Asia right now) the Remnants will never be able to steal or destroy it.
[edit on 5/9/09 by emsed1]
As an Illuminons we always "keep our cool." To be balanced, non-argumentative, kind, persuasive, and vigilant in our duties is our way. Sadly, a majority of humanity does not recognize these characteristics as virtues.
Originally posted by spannera
There is a picture of the chintimani stone on a mongolian prayer flag in this book
Lost cities of China, Central Asia, & India By David Hatcher
It is on page 287 and can be previewed on google books.
It appears to be the same object as on mabans picture.
The ones who live outside time, trapped within a physical form. They are the retainers, the preservers, the Keepers of Memory who document every last nuance of present civilizations to remember them after their inevitable extinction.
As Trigun unfolds, it becomes apparent that Knives believes that humans are parasites that need to be exterminated. His ideology is first reflected as a child when he crushed a spider to save a butterfly. Despite Vash's outrage, he claims that by killing the spider, he saved the butterfly. Contemplating what to do would have only given the spider time to kill the butterfly. He counters Vash's argument, saying that by only saving butterflies, that spider starves, therefor there is no purpose in its suffering - there is no way to save both without allowing one to inevitably die.
The twelve schools were dissolved [after Rutas (Mu) was destroyed in a cataclysm], but the Thirteenth School [composed only of Masters], with its Masters, realized that the world needed Its help and relocated itself in Tibet, becoming the Great White Brotherhood, the first of other Brotherhoods that were created. Seven Masters were the head of it, and they are known as the Council of Seven.
The jig is up the news is out they've finally found me
The renegade who had it made retrieved for a bounty
Never more to go astray
This will be the end today of the wanted man