Shards of the Illuminati

reply to post by KilgoreTrout


The mathematical design you offered is known as fractals - there's programs now where you can put in your own numbers and it will create a fractal based on it - trees are a perfect example in nature - there was a series of crop circles called the "mandlebrot" and "juliette" series that were fractals - awesome stuff !

Originally posted by oconnection
Seems we are all over the place lately. I have a question about the Great White Brotherhood, how are they connected to all this? I've read a number of pages about this group. While there even existence is question I personally believe that such a group exists. What do we know about this group, in previous posts when Maban was around there we hints that his group and the Great While Brotherhood were in fact partners working with one another.

Hi there, here's my $ .02

If you're asking about the GWB of ascended masters, eg Kuthumi - they became popular as I understand it around the turn of the last century through a group that now escapes me - something like "Teachings of the Ascended Masters" or something or other. Might have had the name of St. Germain in the titles. I had their works about twenty years ago, I no longer have it.

As far as I know all the works put out by them were channeled and included long discourses by names such as Kuthumi, St. Germain, Serapis Bay - nowadays the list has grown (more like 'over'grown with masters everywhere).

Now, this can go on and on as these ascended masters are sometimes also associated with the Ashtar Command or variations like Val Thorr's ship according to Dr. Frank Stranges who claims to have met with Christ (Sananda as he's called within the GWB/ascended masters).

So that's my understanding of it from years back. It has morphed many times through many people. I don't doubt there are real channelers channeling real messages. I've seen some very amazing examples. What I do question is the real identity of whatever is supposedly speaking.... I'm too cynical to believe it is who they say it is just because they say so !

Re MarK of Beast

“I am God Almighty!”

In Hebrew:

“Ani ha El Shaddai”, translated: I am El Shaddai – the “outcast Archangel (Shaddai El) – Sheitan or Satan” (see the original translation of Genesis 17:1, e.g. in : The Bible, New International Version).

God of Abraham shaitan or Satan? (confuses me lol)

Vav is the 6th letter of hebrew Alphabet and can be regarded as w.
Apparently 3 vavs is a type of code for the tree of life and Shaitan or the snake which is the central column of the sephiroth.
Therefore three sixs is www. Obviously it is probably a total coincidence but the expanation of its meaning below might still be of interest.

If you read the link there is an explanation of what i am getting at.
gnosticteachings.org...

[edit on 4/21/09 by emsed1]

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emsed1, you are the ATS king!

You seem to have the ability to gets stars for posting nothing at all......

Originally posted by lazy1981
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emsed1, you are the ATS king!

You seem to have the ability to gets stars for posting nothing at all......

Guilty as charged here. I read the post before emsed1 deleted it then stared it afterwords. It was way too good with too many interesting secrets to stay for long. I'll never tell!

Originally posted by EnlightenUp

Originally posted by lazy1981
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emsed1, you are the ATS king!

You seem to have the ability to gets stars for posting nothing at all......

Guilty as charged here. I read the post before emsed1 deleted it then stared it afterwords.

It was way too good with too many interesting secrets to stay for long. I'll never tell!

Ha ha!

Thanks for the stars.

I realized after posting it that it could have been iffy by ATS terms and also by my employer.

We have an entire department called 'Web Intelligence" that keeps track of various search terms and scours the inter-tubes for mentions of the company or our products.

I don't think it would be a huge issue but would draw attention.

Sorry everybody!

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OHHHH! That's not fair! I wanna know now! Come on guys I thought we were pals?????

emsed1, now it's your turn to create a mystery?
damn,
where is the line...let me get a number...


[edit on 23-4-2009 by eventHorizon]

Not all is lost, not all is forgotten.
We have survived, for time immemoral through fire and pain.
We have survived and we shall endure as our ancestors did.

"All shall be revealed on the day of satin and sunshine."


[edit on 28-4-2009 by Kvasir]

The game is afoot...

In the television show, Stargate: SG-1, Kvasir is a member of a race known as the Asgard. Kvasir is an Asgard scientist specialising in Time-Dialation field technology. As Thor is busy in the Asgard home galaxy in "Ripple Effect", Kvasir visits Earth in Thor's stead to help Earth fix a problem with alternate realities. Kvasir also assists SG-1 in battling the Ori at the end of season 9 of SG-1.[2] Kvasir survives the battle and helps to repair the transporters of the Odyssey.[3]

Wikipedia, of course...

If Cadbury (or others) might be able to comment on Maban's "organization" and their influence on media, particularly certain Science Fiction programs, it would be appreciated!

Interesting indeed.... (especially since Kvasir registered nearly a year ago and this is his first post).

Originally posted by Kvasir
Not all is lost, not all is forgotten.
We have survived, for time immemoral through fire and pain.
We have survived and we shall endure as our ancestors did.

"All shall be revealed on the day of satin and sunshine."


[edit on 28-4-2009 by Kvasir]

PS Kvasir - If you are Illuminon welcome to the thread. :-)

Does 'satin and sunshine' refer to May Day?

May Day (May 1st):

For the Druids of the British Isles, May 1 was the second most important holiday of the year. Because, it was when the festival of Beltane held. It was thought that the day divides the year into half. The other half was to be ended with the Samhain on November 1. Those days the May Day custom was the setting of new fire. It was one of those ancient New Year rites performed throughout the world. And the fire itself was thought to lend life to the burgeoning springtimesun. Cattle were driven through the fire to purify them. Men, with their sweethearts, passed through the smoke for seeing good luck.

and maypole dancing with ribbons of satin (on May 1)

Caption:

In the Prose Edda, Gylfi, King of Sweden before the arrival of the Æsir under Odin, travels to Asgard, questions the three officials shown in the illumination concerning the Æsir, and is beguiled. Note that the officials have one eye, a sign of Odin. One of his attributes is that he can make the false seem true. 18th century Icelandic manuscript.

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by emsed1
If Cadbury (or others) might be able to comment on Maban's "organization" and their influence on media, particularly certain Science Fiction programs, it would be appreciated!

Maban claimed that the Superman comics were Illuminon influenced. The purpose being to condition the population for what they should expect to see when the Enlightened Ones returned.

Sorry if that had been said somewhere already. I don't really remember every factoid brought up in this thread.

Well I haven't heard from my good friend Cadbury in a while... I hope he is well.

I never talked much about the entertainment industry influences with Maban but I believe he discussed it quite a bit with others. One of the shows specifically mentioned was SG-1, which interestingly connects to my post above about Kvasir.

There has been an increase in "illuminati" chatter lately and folks have asked me if I thought "they" (remnants/nwo/bad guys) were going to try a takeover in the near future.

In my opinion the "bad guys" are suffering from a serious lack of organization right now and there is a somewhat unexpected groundswell of resistance growing. There have always been the few outspoken conspiracy nuts screaming at the top of their lungs, but recently there have been more and more "rational" people that are opening their eyes and asking questions.

We shall see what May 1 brings. Unless Kvasir wants to comment otherwise I believe that is the day of "satin and sun" to which he referred.

Until we know the truth, I stand by my signature....

Originally posted by emsed1
Well I haven't heard from my good friend Cadbury in a while... I hope he is well.

I never talked much about the entertainment industry influences with Maban but I believe he discussed it quite a bit with others. One of the shows specifically mentioned was SG-1, which interestingly connects to my post above about Kvasir.

I hardly think certain influences are confined to SG-1 or Superman. The Stargate franchise always seemed too blantantly obvious.

There has been an increase in "illuminati" chatter lately...

By them or about them? I observe an increase in some interesting folk making cryptic posts and 'signing' said posts with favorite quotations.

...and folks have asked me if I thought "they" (remnants/nwo/bad guys) were going to try a takeover in the near future.

'They' have been trying for a long time. 'They' have met resistance just as long by the other 'they'. Both 'theys' have been there and no takeover is really needed.

But, does it have anything to do with Shards a la Maban? I have no real idea.

In my opinion the "bad guys" are suffering from a serious lack of organization right now and there is a somewhat unexpected groundswell of resistance growing.

Yes, their wheel is boisterously chirping. This time they get no greasy french fries.

We shall see what May 1 brings. Unless Kvasir wants to comment otherwise I believe that is the day of "satin and sun" to which he referred.

I can wait two days, unless Kvasir meant more like May 1 in 50-70 years.

Until we know the truth, I stand by my signature....

When we know the truth, you won't stand by it still? Or does it become vacuously true at that point?

"Come down from your crystal fortress Strongbad. A unicorn awaits at a rainbow bridge."

[edit on 4/29/2009 by EnlightenUp]

Originally posted by EnlightenUp

I hardly think certain influences are confined to SG-1 or Superman. The Stargate franchise always seemed too blantantly obvious.

True.. take a look at Star Trek and Angels n' Demons. Both in May.

By them or about them? I observe an increase in some interesting folk making cryptic posts and 'signing' said posts with favorite quotations.

Yeah just when things start to get quiet, too...

'They' have been trying for a long time. 'They' have met resistance just as long by the other 'they'. Both 'theys' have been there and no takeover is really needed.

But, does it have anything to do with Shards a la Maban? I have no real idea.

Sometimes I don't think 'they' even know who 'they' are or who the other 'they' is.

I can wait two days, unless Kvasir meant more like May 1 in 50-70 years.

emsed1: Until we know the truth, I stand by my signature....

When we know the truth, you won't stand by it still? Or does it become vacuously true at that point?

"Come down from your crystal fortress Strongbad. A unicorn awaits at a rainbow bridge."

[edit on 4/29/2009 by EnlightenUp]

Strongbad will save us all!


Maybe.

This thread is alive and kicking....Good.

Kvasir - welcome! We need some direction.

Emsed1, EnlightenUp - great posts.

I can only agree that fake NWO is facing rising consciousness and resistance.
The day shall come when mere association with NWO
will be considered an embarrassment, perhaps a treason.

good luck on "day of satin and sunshine"!

Originally posted by emsed1

Originally posted by EnlightenUp

I hardly think certain influences are confined to SG-1 or Superman. The Stargate franchise always seemed too blantantly obvious.

True.. take a look at Star Trek and Angels n' Demons. Both in May.

What bugs me is that ATS is a cheap way to surreptitiously promote such films. Sometimes I wonder if someone doesn't get payed to come in and rouse interest before a release.

Sometimes I don't think 'they' even know who 'they' are or who the other 'they' is.

I should really change the 'both'. I have the impression of at least four distinct 'theys'.

'Theys' that are plain evil and are in it for power and greed. Certain black magicians may in fact appear to do good things but this is only to repent for their wrongdoings and maintain their power. Hitler was a vegetarian (or at least reduced meat intake) and in occult magic this would allow a slight positive polarization over those whom he wished to dominate. I'll say that in opposition to KilgoreTrout's assertion that the Nazi's only used it as a propaganda control mechanism; little nuggets like that give away true intentions. My sense is Bill Gates is one as he was aquainted with Charles F. Haanel's work.

'Theys' that are neutral and maintain balance by affecting decisions behind the scenes. The example in this thread is the Shards. Noone outside this forum seems to have heard of any group by that name. But, many leaders and people of influence seem to consult Buddhist monks for opinions. I suspect the real functioning group of this sort are those unassuming monks.

'Theys' that try to do good by doing bad. They push negatively because 'they' believe the pressure will awaken humanity. In an earlier posting here I asked Maban about that type and stated he didn't disapprove of such action but stated the Shard don't take that upon themselves. Later he indirectly identified Dubya as one in stating his actions as contributing to an early awakening. I think this and the first 'they' are the most prevalent in government and elsewhere as the human need to control and influence is strong, especially when one knows one is in the position.

'Theys' that only try to push positively most probably by disseminating knowledge and ideas that those willing to listen will encounter and consider. Only those properly polarized to receive it, will. To others it won't make sense or the attraction will be absent and thus it remains hidden to them.

One of more of these 'theys' may in fact be part of the form of a single logical unit, perhaps even unbenknownst to those in said unit and some factions knowst (sic) to each other and working together.

"The contents of this post are strictly the opinions its author and do not nescessarily reflect any aforementioned individuals' actual affiliations or practices."


[edit on 4/29/2009 by EnlightenUp]