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Originally posted by Maban
reply to post by kshaund
I am not sure of what you speak, please clarify which system you are describing?
Originally posted by spannera
Hi Maban Its frustratingly confusing but if you forgive me for my inquisitiveness i would like your opinion. Firstly Thoth has three other names i can think of 1) Hermes Trismegistus ie thrice great (3 secrets any connection). 2) Asclepius 3) Ophiochus '' the serpent holder' yet again a star sign more code. Second Thoth is reputed to come from atlantis some say via Shambala (keys to temple) and others say Sirius. Cant be both. Its like unravelling the gordian knots big brother. Any clues as im not a gnostic and unable to receive inner revelation lol. Thanks !
Originally posted by spannera
Hi maben sorry. just a thought is thoth maybe equated with lucifer as well. in which case do you known anything about the brotherhood of the snake. thanks
Originally posted by Maban
reply to post by OmegaPoint
Our collective purpose in betterment, is always far great in cause and in action than petty squabbling of opinion. Now if only the rest of humanity would see it, we would be so much closer to peace.
P.S. Dear Illuminons - you want to protect humanity and set us free, to pass through the royal arch and into the domain of everlasting light and love?
Originally posted by Amitel
As much as I wished to not be drawn into this thread for various reasons, I have returned for what reason I do not know.
It seems many that are in your position or enlightened so to speak hold to the notion of not casting pearls before swine, what is your take on this philosophy?
On a lighter note would you say it possible for one outside your organization or any other for that matter to come across the knowledge that your group has? For even a fool can have a date with serendipity every now and again. Don't take me wrong I don't mean to imply myself in any way I am just speaking in general terms.
It seems that every now and again a person has a breakthrough of knowledge that can set to move humanity to a higher understanding of things. Does your group believe in any kind of prophecies (for lack of a better term) of someone of this nature coming along to propel humanity forward into the light.
For you must have some reason to be here or something to gain which would allow for the exception. After your initial leave and then return would one be wrong to think you have some sort of unfinished business to tend to? Or in other words is there something specific you wish to attain from this or is it just a goodwill service. I mean no disrespect.
I honestly don't know where this thread will end, I spent the last two days trying to reach it but I honestly can't read anymore for the time being.
Great you have these wonderful secrets, congratulations. It's like your egging people on and have to admit I can see why people believe you crave attention.
So far after reading 40 pages, watching your crappy Japanese animation, I've yet to stumble upon anything that I haven't already read. Perhaps I'm a well informed individual.
Your mastery of the English language and your story is commendable, who knows if it's true because we have nothing to verify your claims! Anytime we ask real questions about your organization you claim you can't divulge information because the "NIA" is after you. Strangely I've never heard of such an organization but you claim it operates like a "ghost" similar to the MiB. (another orginization we can't verify)
Another big question is, if you were a threat to an immense organization such as the the "NIA", how is that you have had the ability to sit in front of a computer screen for such an extended period of time? We all know that organizations such as the NSA have the ability to track any electronic communications with in a very short period of time. This is the biggest hole your story despite the complete lack of proof.
When it was asked which books we should read that would give us a better understanding to what you are claiming you state that none come to mind. So basically all of humanity does not even have the slightest idea what your organization is about?
Really you expect a community such as ATS, who's battle cry is "Deny Ignorance" to buy this "message"? With the complete lack of information this can't be taken seriously to a logical and rational mind.
Originally posted by Maban
Truth is I have lied; I have deceived many of you. However I did not do it out of ego, or out of greed, or even duty. I did it out of hope, hope that the truth left veiled would preserve my message. But it seems that too many are unwilling to overlook this; too many are unable to see past the messenger, and see the message.
You ask why I am here, why this discourse, why the secrecy; why?
Truth is, we are fighting a losing war. Truth is Iceland was our last best chance for hope, our last vestige of light; and now it is gone. Along with our leaders, our wise guides, teachers, tacticians, and all the resources we once wielded.
I originally came here out of my own will, citing the losses we have incurred over the last ten years, and especially the last three as reason to spread the truth of our existence, and what humanity MUST know in order to combat the coming darkness. For the truth is, we have failed. Beneath my bravado, beneath my optimism, and hope; lies the unadulterated doubt and feeling of defeat.
Truth is in the last three years we have lost over 2,000 Illuminons. We have been reduced from a legion, to a rag tag organization, ready to burst at the seems, at the first onset of attack. Although I tell myself that good always prevails, even I have my doubts. For in truth, evil is always far more powerful than good; it is by its very nature.
We and the Remnants have kept one another's existence a secret, a secret born out of self preservation, and the preservation of our ideals. We have "hijacked" an IP address of an individual whom can easily be mistaken both by his words and by his character for we, an individual whom we know can face the coming night. Forgive my haste, or my brusqueness because time is short, for in truth I care not if you believe me, I care not if we go "unproven" in existence, I care not if you learn the truths we know, I care not if you despise us for it. But; I do care if you heed my message of hope, and my message of warning. For the long night is rapidly approaching, and upon its eve we will be unable to stand against it, for I fear none of us will be left to fight. That which is most sacred, that which is held most dear, and that which guarantees humanity's future will be protected, you have our word in this, to our dying breath.
I have made contact here because we feel we have little other recourse. As of now my duty as a High Councilor of the Seattle Shard, is to help Illuminons go to ground, to hide from our pursuers, to preserve the secrets we hold, the secrets which guarantees humanity's future, and existance.
We few Guardians that are left are going to hold our ground until all of our fellow kin are safe. We are communicating these ideals on, before the eve of a lasting night. We wish our words to be heard one last time; and we wish the murdering bastards whom pursue us, to find us. For we will not go quietly, we will not go silently into the night, we will not surrender, we will not beg for our lives; we will stand and face the coming darkness, for it must get past us to reach our fellow kin. It must pass us to reach humanity. And they must know, our stand may not be a lasting one, but it will merely be the first of many, as those whom you control will come to plot against you, and take up our mantle of resistance and idealism; that resistance and idealism which threatens you so much.
Originally posted by oconnection
What message is that? You belong to a "shard" in Seattle? You admit you deceived many of us, doesn't that put your whole story at jeopardy?
I thought originally you claimed you were doing this because you felt it your duty and your "assignment".
Why should we over looked this. If someone claimed to be Christ we'd want to see some sort of proof wouldn't we?
Firstly do you live in Seattle or is Iceland, or is it Mars? Funny I have a lot friends in Seattle and if a lot people just went up and missing I would of heard about it. I used to live in Seattle, it's a nice city, sure rains a lot, perhaps this was done out boredom?
Really now your telling us you did this on your own free will? I thought it was the "Council" that approved your "assignment". Lies lies and more lies.
Again where did they put all the bodies? Statistically speaking I would of heard something if 2,000 people went missing. As a city, Seattle does not have a high murder rate and if there were a "war" going on I think something would of surfaced by now.
Personally If I was fearing for my life I wouldn't be typing on a keyboard and my main concern would be for the safety of my self and my loved ones.
You "hijacked" an IP address? I work in the IT field and specialize in security. By which means from a technical stand point did you do this? I do recall you claimed your studies were that of business and technology, so I expect some sort of technical answer. It will require much more then a hijacked IP address to provide the type of security one would need if say the NSA was looking for you.
By all means sir, if you honestly are fearing for your life, please leave your keyboard and take appropriate steps to ensure your safety.
This is in direct contradiction from the overall message you have been telling. Now you say the secrets guarantee humanity's future? I thought it was because we weren't ready for them, that we as a race couldn't handle such truths.
So very poetic, you should seriously consider writing a book or a script I bet you would be very successful. Anyways God speed, thanks for the ride, it was entertaining.
With that said, after reading the exhausting 53 pages, I will give you that a lot your ideals rang true. But honestly did we need you to lay it out for us? Maybe some, but for those of us already well versed why spend all the effort especially when the whole world according to you is at the mercy of your organization. Don't you have more important things do like saving the world?
You claim that the source of these "secrets" were brought to the Illuminati 11,000 years ago by what I can understand by some sort of unknown beings. If a document such as the Holy Bible plagued by misinterpretations and revisions what assurance do we have this these "three secrets" haven't been water downed or lost completely? There is no peer review, no cross referencing, no assurance what so ever. The only thing we know from these 53 pages is it's a secret were not ready for. I find this idea insulting given I am very open minded person. I do have logic and have always trusted my "gut" feeling.
Again, I'm not saying everything you've brought to the table is false but you as a messenger is what is in question. Good day/night.