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posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by emsed1
Are you able to discuss anything about your personal life? I would be interested to know about your upbringing and family life. When did you discover your destiny? Is it something that is passed down, IE 'bloodline' as many say or is it something you choose?


I believe I discussed this earlier in the thread. If need be I can find it for you and point it to you, or another here well versed in the thread could do so. After which if you possess further questions I would be happy to answer them to the fullest degree possible.


Do Illuminon get to have a social life? Marriage? I understand your commitment is probably 24/7 but can you ever put down roots or build a family?


You can, but that usually changes your station or "position" within the Shards. Currently I am a sort of amalgamation between head of Operations and am one of three on the Seattle Council since the Icelandic Assault. Concurrently, if I were to choose a more "static" lifestyle that would probably prevent me from continuing filed work simply because of practicality. For the most part many of us live in middle class homes, and middle class lives.


Can you comment on some of the popular culture portrayals of the Illuminati (such as movies, games, books, etc.) and are any of them anywhere close to accurate?


All that I have seen are piss-poor representations, embedded with century old outdated facts and modernized superstition. I think those things that best reference us are the works we have promoted, but do not speak directly to us; with one glaring omission, The DX Invisible War project.

- Maban




posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by Nerich
Hello, first i would like to say that i find your use of "Custodians" on the first page both intriguing and telling. I also find the constant dichotomy of light vs. dark, good vs. evil, shards vs. remnants and so on in what ever universe, as an excellent source of energy, therefore i will contribute to it.

With that being said, i will be brief.



1. Do you or your group have a current existing communication line with the "Enlightened ones"?


No.


If not i would then imagine these signs you and yours are awaiting are written or stored in some way and have been passed down.


That is a safe assumption.


If this is the case, it is highly unlikely the source of information the shards operate off of is in English. Which then leads me to my next question.

2. In my travels i have come across a certain language, perhaps you or a keeper of knowledge in your midsts can aid me. What language is this, "Aq tureth es ni oth.."? this is only a snippet i hope it will be of sufficient length.


I do not immediately recognize it. If you could provide me with some "longer" words I may be able to match it. Unfortunately our language and classical history sources are currently unavailable, given the current state of affairs.


3. You also mention certain religious ideologies and a percentage of the postings have fallen along the lines of the importance of the physical universe. Are you and the Shards physical symbols(i.e. bodies), light itself actually being a physical universe phenomena, or something other? I hope this question makes sense, if it doesn't i can clarify further.


We are flesh and blood yes; if that is what you are asking. Much of our teachings/sayings are highly symbolic, thus obvious confusion. I find here people often take it to one extreme or another. That being that we are "light" itself, or these are literal things that exist. Neither are the case, it is symbolic, as I am sure you know.


I would also like to add that I am glad you have chosen to play this game on the side you are presently representing. I consider you a teammate and a friend.


Game? Not the word I would have chosen. We have lost a good deal of, good men and women recently, I certainly do not see this as a "game" of any sort. Not that this is what you may have been implying.

- Maban

[edit on 15-1-2009 by Maban]



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 07:56 PM
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Indeed they are.

- Maban



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by emsed1
Can you provide any intel on the situation in Juarez, Mexico? I don't know if that is an area of concern for the Shards but I will be there in several weeks.


Actually its statewide violence and corruption that is the problem. From both public and internal intelligence, it points to serious fighting within six months or so, at the very least highly intensified fighting between the Mexican Fedurales and the Cartels. I woudl not be surprised if we could see a regime change or controlled collapse to some degree within one to two years. In other words watch your back, stay alert, and stay aware. If there is any good time to go it is now, before things have the potential to get worse.


I know military assets (NIA??) are being reassigned there and the government is facing a possible crisis with the drug wars going on.


In all likelihood if the NIA is indeed there, they certainly are not on the US/Mexico side of the situation, at least covertly. In all actuality warnings have been issued to both withdraw and prevent US soldiers from entering Mexico as of now. I think the USG is trying to stay out of the whole situation for whatever reason, regardless of the potential outcomes it may pose to both the future and to the US. We have a few Illuminons on the issue, but they are in the field as of now.

- Maban



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by Maban
Sometimes, the best things in life; are worth waiting for. Although I know this gives you little comfort or solace, I will say this. Many things are in motion now, and the next 100 years are going to be "interesting" to say the least. We will see a rapid onset of changes and advancements unprecedented in all of human history. Amidst these changes and advancements; unions and divisions will be forged, as well as broken. Peoples will rise and fall. But, at the end of it, an unveiling is inevitable. Mankind will be forced to stand as one, in a world united, or a world broken. At this point a great revelation will ensue, and a bright future will emerge from the unknown. All will be answered, and all understood. We; the Illuminons know this, we have been entrusted with this knowledge to safeguard humanity to the end of this dark era. However, we know the inevitable outcome, but we know not when or how ti will fully come to pass. We can only guess and infer from known quantities and facts, what is just beyond the horizon.


You make it sound as though it were the Second Coming. I understand what you're saying, about waiting for that which is sweetest, but who entrusted you with this power, aliens, God, Pope hundreds of years ago?


Originally posted by MabanWe stand as the silent and illusive sentinels, watching, waiting, and guiding. We silently move against the dark forces in this work to buy humanity time, time to change, time to adapt, and time to prepare itself for the coming changes, and coming hardships. No matter the future, no matter the hardships, humanity will prevail, that is our charge. And whenst humanity does, it will be stronger and more united than ever before, and from it anew era will emerge.


That's what makes people uneasy, how united? United in the sense of the NWO, united spiritually? I thought you said you couldn't reveal yourselves and force enlightenment on people, why the change?


Originally posted by MabanI understand your bitter frustration and fervid anger, it is felt by all Illuminons too. However we leaven those feelings with the knowledge that events have been put into motion, which will purge these individuals from our world forever. Often the greatest forces are seldom seen or heard, until they come crashing down like a wave of water.


Well, then how can I help and go after the right villains? If I want to help save this world anyway and seek justice the same way you say you go after these NIA and Remnant facilities, what do I do as I said I wanted to go into the justice field?


Originally posted by MabanOften the forces such organizations create, can become greater than they are able to control. Such forces then follow the laws of nature, and not the commands of their masters. Global complacency is an issue, but there comes a time when such large forces can no longer go unrecognized. At this point, these organizations will be thrust into the light, either by their lust for power, or their disparity for survival. Either way, they shall become known when the times is right, when the stage is set, and forces rightly aligned.


Oh, I agree. I had heard before that was one reason we went into Iraq, because Saddam rebelled against his masters and was trying to make some easy money on the side like other gangbangers do. LIke the Godfathers do, they put a hit out on them.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by Maban
Initially it was belief, now it has diversified to include that, and in addition greed for money and power.


Belief in what, mysticism? Aliens? Do some have a belief in the Devil as some say the Rothchilds and Rockefellers do? If the Remnants are taking the head of the control, rather than nudging because of what you say, maybe 100 years is a bit too much until we win and have united...right? If they fall, would all the bad guys go too, would it all come out?


[edit on 16-1-2009 by Darky6K]



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by Maban
In all likelihood if the NIA is indeed there, they certainly are not on the US/Mexico side of the situation, at least covertly. In all actuality warnings have been issued to both withdraw and prevent US soldiers from entering Mexico as of now. I think the USG is trying to stay out of the whole situation for whatever reason, regardless of the potential outcomes it may pose to both the future and to the US. We have a few Illuminons on the issue, but they are in the field as of now.

- Maban


Well I know Bush's Zapata Oil has worked to smuggle drugs into the country before for years, and the USG isn't exactly the most clean, what with Skull and Bones' influence, you think the NIA is cleaning out competition or trying to draw some attention away from something else?



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 03:10 AM
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Originally posted by Maban
!!PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING!!

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Those whom have descended from the Icelandic Shard are considered “Illuminons” whom belong to a particular global “Shard.” The eternal “duty” of the Shards is to maintain “global stability” at any personal cost. All in an effort to help usher in an era of global peace and unity. We have come to learn that in due time humanity will find enlightenment and in it, a new era will emerge. We are the stewards of this movement, nothing more, nothing less.


Cool... Iceland's language is the most pure viking language to remain, supposedly some Irish went to Iceland as well as the Scandinavian Vikings that settled there, never heard them in connection with the illuminati though, since Iceland is supposedly going bankrupt it doesn't sound to me like they are illuminati, the illuminati is supposedly the 13 families bank owners controlling the worlds economy, I don't think Iceland fits in with that.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 06:42 AM
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what do you think is the goal of illuminati
maban tks



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by Darky6K

You make it sound as though it were the Second Coming. I understand what you're saying, about waiting for that which is sweetest, but who entrusted you with this power, aliens, God, Pope hundreds of years ago?


We were not "entrusted" with power, but knowledge. And yes, knowledge can give power if so pursued. We have not pursued power because it is against our code,our pledge of duty.


That's what makes people uneasy, how united? United in the sense of the NWO, united spiritually? I thought you said you couldn't reveal yourselves and force enlightenment on people, why the change?


Tell me, when you look at Star Trek, a united world in peace, working towards a common goal of understanding and exploration, is that fearful, is that truly "evil?" I think not. I think many do not wish to embrace global unity, because it means that people will be forced out of their "comfort zones," they will have to drop previous predilections and prejudices and face other peoples for what they really are. 90% of the population want global peace, few are the true instigators of chaos and violence.

When I say global unity, I do not speak of a New World Order, nut a New Earth Civilization, a better way of life, a life free from violence, discrimination, prejudice, hatred, a sort of utopia. If you wish to know the shape we see it taking on, look no further than Gene Roddenberry's works. Are they "horrific," "devious," or "worth fearing;" you tell me, what fault is there in this envisioned future.


Well, then how can I help and go after the right villains? If I want to help save this world anyway and seek justice the same way you say you go after these NIA and Remnant facilities, what do I do as I said I wanted to go into the justice field?


Question, investigate, pursue, be willing to look everywhere any anywhere for the answers. But, something tells me I need not say this to you in particular. But, I can guarantee you that direct confrontation to too dangerous for anyone but the Shards to attempt, which we do strategically and often. What we need most, and what need be done most is investigation into what they are doing, and how they are doing it. We often follow up on investigation conducted outside the shards, which tip us off and allow us to purse more in-depth investigations, which yield promising results.



Oh, I agree. I had heard before that was one reason we went into Iraq, because Saddam rebelled against his masters and was trying to make some easy money on the side like other gangbangers do. LIke the Godfathers do, they put a hit out on them.


Not quite, I speak more figuratively than physically, or literally. The Iraq war was fought for several reason,s some of which we are still trying to understand, but I can assure you that this ins not one of them. Often power plays or movements can take on a life of their own, a life its masters cannot control. A power which can turn against its overbearing and manipulative masters.


Belief in what, mysticism? Aliens? Do some have a belief in the Devil as some say the Rothchilds and Rockefellers do? If the Remnants are taking the head of the control, rather than nudging because of what you say, maybe 100 years is a bit too much until we win and have united...right? If they fall, would all the bad guys go too, would it all come out?


No, no, no. They believe in the same fundamental things we do, world peace, world unity, peace, happiness, utopia. The key difference is that they believe that this change can be "forced" into existence. That through power and manipulation they can make it come into existence by their own actions.

We on the other hand, believe that utopia must come about naturally, that it must be forged by humanity's own hands. That humanity woudl not accept a utopia not created by them. We act as the silent guardians of humanity and humanity's free will. We help inspire individuals to take up our mantle, and help create progressive change and help humanity, thereby nudging humanity in the proper "direction" towards enlightenment.


Well I know Bush's Zapata Oil has worked to smuggle drugs into the country before for years, and the USG isn't exactly the most clean, what with Skull and Bones' influence, you think the NIA is cleaning out competition or trying to draw some attention away from something else?


I think the NIA is using both sides to bring about its own changes, its own sort of controlled collapse. They probably think by collapsing the region they will be able to crust the drug trade altogether, helping create a better world. Yet they disregard the millions of innocents which will be sacrificed for such a change. We believe that humanity must take control, not them.

The Remnants view us as "confused" and "backwards" Illuminati. That we are counterproductive, and an obstacle towards their "beliefs" and goals. Some have even gone so far as to label us "traitorous" brethren who openly fight them and their "purpose/duty." In a sense we are the "Rebels" of the original Illuminati. We are what the Illuminati was circa 500 BCE.

- Maban

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posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by Razimus

Cool... Iceland's language is the most pure viking language to remain, supposedly some Irish went to Iceland as well as the Scandinavian Vikings that settled there, never heard them in connection with the Illuminati though, since Iceland is supposedly going bankrupt it doesn't sound to me like they are Illuminati, the Illuminati is supposedly the 13 families bank owners controlling the worlds economy, I don't think Iceland fits in with that.


According to what? according to whom? Where does this information come from?

I am not discounting nor combating you, I merely ask you if you know for "sure" our history?

Bare in mind that this occurred after the Bavarian Siege, so this information was not common knowledge, and has stayed hidden until recently.

You mention the Vikings, also remember that they walked among men, and were of some of the most benevolent gods that ever existed.

The recent bankruptcy did indeed hit us, it hit us hard. We believe it was instigated by one of the stronger Remnants we though defeated long ago.
As of now the Icelandic Shard lies in ruins, literally. When the rioting in Reykjavík reached its intensity we stepped in to help prevent it from escalating. Meanwhile, a Remnant managed to both locate and assault our Icelandic Shard. Simply put, few survived. Combat Units, such as mine were unable to respond in time and prevent it. As of now the Icelandic Shard no longer exists.

- Maban



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by Investigateconspiracies
what do you think is the goal of Illuminati
Maban tks


Which Illuminati?

If you mean the Remnants that is probably the most tenuous question of them all. The Remnants have fractured and divided because of beliefs, because of plans, and because of personal relationships. For the most part they want what we want; global peace and unity, but at a higher coast, and created by artificial "forced" means.

Other splinter groups like the NIA and Bilderburg Group want power and control for their own ends. I think each goal is different per ruling group member.

- Maban



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 04:14 PM
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posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 05:41 PM
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No, no, no. They believe in the same fundamental things we do, world peace, world unity, peace, happiness, utopia. The key difference is that they believe that this change can be "forced" into existence. That through power and manipulation they can make it come into existence by their own actions.


This reminds me of a certain government that keeps trying to 'bomb people into democracy'.

Perhaps democracy works for us. Does that mean we should force it upon those who are either not ready or not willing to accept it, or should we support them in a humanitarian way until they are ready?



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by emsed1

This reminds me of a certain government that keeps trying to 'bomb people into democracy'.

Perhaps democracy works for us. Does that mean we should force it upon those who are either not ready or not willing to accept it, or should we support them in a humanitarian way until they are ready?


Precisely, you can update, change, force, and convert people, but it will not be peaceful, and it most certainly will not be lasting. You can do all I said above in a matter of days, even hours, but it takes decades, centuries, even millenia to change their hearts and minds.

- Maban

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posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 06:43 PM
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Recent I have received an influx of messages, and several posts which continue the traditions of old, a long held human ritual... Assign Blame.
All of you want to know the truth, the face of the enemy, well fine.
Here it is, here is your answer:

Humanity wants peace, it wants happiness, but humanity has repeatedly proved that it is not ready for it. They have demonstrated time and time again that they are both unwilling to stand up for what is right, and to make the sacrifices necessary to change humanity, to change human nature to make this a better world.

Truth be told, if humanity would stand up as one, we would not be needed, and those whom set their wills against humanity woudl fall in an instant. We would be graced by near immediate utopia. But, humanity prefers to wallow in its own despair, its own self pity than stand up as one. Humanity so entranced in its differences, that it utterly ignores its similarities.

Ultimately in order for humanity to avoid its own self destruction, and to create a new world, a better world, a paradise; humanity needs to prove that it is worth saving. Not us, not to some higher power, not to the remnants, and not to any institution or power system, but to themselves. So many people have it in their minds that we are beyond saving, so why bother. This fundamentalist self defeating, self destructive thinking is the real threat. The Shards, the Remnants, even the NIA are pale in comparison to humanity's own lust for pity and self destruction.

Dispensing all reserve. We Illuminons are infuriated every time a civilian from any nationality or any religious affiliation pisses and moans about how the world is out to get them. That if its not daily life, it is the powers at be manipulating and controlling their insignificant little lives. Well, reality check. What so many of you fail to realize, is that you are viewed by many as inconsequential. You think your are being persecuted and controlled, when that is a latent lie. There are bullies in the sandbox, and you refuse to get out of the way. You refuse to remove yourselves as the victims, yet you also refuse to stand up and fight. The powers at be do not want to control you, you are merely obstacles to their goals; at best you are disposable tools.

Our people have sacrificed their homes, their families, and their very lives so all you can continue to do exactly what you have done for centuries; piss and moan. Piss and moan, about how painful your lives all are, yet even with our sacrifices and your retained ability of free will, you do nothing. You sound off you opinions, your disenchantment, your cries of oppression, and screams for help.

We lay everything down so you continue to keep your "human" rights. But all in all; you truly have none to blame but yourselves. So readily clinging to the personality of victims, that that; is all you will ever be, victims of powers greater than yourselves. You should look to no god, no government, and no power but yourselves, but humanity. Its time humanity stopped beating itself up like crazed masochists. It's time to get up off the floor, and face its demons, fight its bullies. Because, no one is going to save humanity... So save yourselves. Because, you're the only ones that can. All we can do is give you the opportunity, and ability; no more no less.

You have all asked me, what can "I" do, how can "I" help. Well, there is the problem itself. "I"... I"... I"... That's all we ever hear.

What we need is "We." What we need is "Humanity." Until you recognize this, you won't even be able to help yourselves, let along humanity. Unless Humanity comes together, as one; humanity will cease to exist by attrition. Each and every pitiful soul dying one at a time, alone, helpless, and powerless.

"United we stand, divided we fall."

No one holds the keys to your futures but yourselves, so look in the mirror; that the true face of your enemy. So defeat it, and set yourselves free. Become the savior, and cease to be the victims. That is your truth, that is your answer.

- Maban

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posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 07:11 PM
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Maban

I am currently reading Crossfire by Jim Marrs, as someone who has never been, until fairly recently, interested in the assassination of JFK most of the information is quite new to me. In the section detailing the background of Lee Harvey Oswald, I was struck by quite glaring similarities to Kim Philby, a person who interests me enormously. Some of these similarities are to say the least astounding. I am not sure if you will be aware of the work of Philby, although he did work very closely with both the CIA and the FBI in the US as liaison to British SIS, he would perhaps not be that well known outside of the UK (and possibly Russia) after all this time. To cut a long story short, Philby was accused, and indeed confessed, to spying for the Soviet Union. As he also worked for British Intelligence, specifically MI6, he is dubbed a Double. However, from my studies, I think it appears he was at least a Triple, if not a Quadruple (what a tangled web we weave…), although who he was working for in all cases is not necessarily clear. There is a similar pattern about Oswald, startlingly so in places, so much so that I am inclined to believe that they could possibly have been working for a very similar group of people, if not exactly the same people. This of course is wild conjecture on my part and impossible to substantiate.

To leave Oswald to one side, he was merely a mental catalyst, Philby, is to this day considered a traitor to this country, Britain, however as I am not a nationalist and not particularly supportive of a country that still feels, like Orwell’s pigs, that some are created more equal than others, I do not consider him as such. Rather I consider him a rather self-less man who sacrificed his own happiness and personal freedom for a cause that he believed in. He at no time received financial reward for his services to the Soviet Union. Though some may argue that his actions led to the deaths of others, it could equally be argued that his actions saved as many, if not more.

One of the groups that he belonged to, and worked for, helped to ensure that new military technology, was evenly distributed to both sides. If the UK and US for example had something, this group ensured that the Soviets had it also, thus, indirectly ensuring that a balanced state of ‘mutual destruction’ was achieved. It is usually argued that Philby sought to give advantage to the Soviets, and this is why he is labelled a traitor. In my opinion though, if one operates without borders, without a sense of nationalism, what he and his compatriots actually did was a service to humanity and the planet in general.

With the above in mind, I would be interested in your attitudes towards nationalism and how your work could, perhaps at times, lead you towards actions that others might construe as ‘traitorous’ or criminal, and if so, how you would reconcile yourself to that? Would you, for example, be willing to sacrifice your liberty for such a cause, spending the rest of your days in a maximum security Federal facility? Or would you in fact be protected from such an event happening? Whisked off to a desert island or the such like...



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 07:15 PM
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Wow...I think you answered my question while I was writing it...that'll teach me to be so long winded.

Nice post though



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 09:54 PM
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Maban,
"Humanity so entranced in its differences, that it utterly ignores its similarities."

Very eloquent and true. Bravo.

"To stand as one" sometimes necessitates totalitarianism.
I'm sincerely worried that controlled collapse may lead to a form of such.

That leads me to a question I hope you will answer -

Was Unites States attacked, economically, by NIA and allies with the
main goal being economical destruction of the last true democracy?
SEC, part of USG, clearly re-enabled legal grounds for such attacks
months in advance. If anything, SEC was the biggest enabler of current collapse.
Anything you could reveal publicly on the matter?

PS. Needless to say that I'm sorry to hear about Icelandic Shard.
Based on my access to some financial sources, there can be little doubts,
that this act - this whole lasting act - was well strategized.

Best regards.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 10:10 PM
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The United States was merely a catalyst to bring the world to its knees. The USG and the United States itself is immaterial and inconsequential to the Dark Forces in this world, it is but a tool, a disposable tool they use towards their ends. Tier agents penetrate vast numbers of organizations and agencies, it is hard to say whom is or is not uninfected. Shades of gray, in the fight between dark and light.

- Maban



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