reply to post by KilgoreTrout
reply to post by Fire_In_The_Minds_of_Men
And a response you shall have. My, my, quite a bit of discourse has been exchanged since my last appearance. Firstly I would like to respond to a...
misinterpretation of my words. You have mentioned that Knigge's son would not wish to use his name because of disgrace; this is a fallacy. My
statement was in fact that he would not wish to use his name in public, because of his father's notoriety. I never mentioned disgrace or any level of
infamous persona. He was indeed a good and decent gentlemen, this I had though I openly recognized. What I was attempting to describe is this level of
recognition did not allow for covertness, and therefore was a benefit he could not draw from in the public light.
I am elated by your discoveries. It would appear that there exists no record of Agoustous Knigge's existence, very intriguing. The reason I say this
is because of underlying suspicion for generations about the Icelandic Council's forwardness with certain articles of information. there has been no
reason for doubt of their forwardness, until now. However little focus (as I previously stated) has been placed on our past; and most has been placed
on our future. I have a Council meeting this evening and will refer your findings along with two other Illuminons whom have recently uncovered...
contradictory information. It will be interesting to receive the Icelandic Council's response, especially since I will ensure it is the highlight of
I want to personally thank you for finding this information. Not only does it allude to a historical visage or even possible deception, but it is
within the public domain and cannot be easily disputed. I had hoped by not disclosing what additional information I possessed about Agoustous Knigge
would entice and motivate others to do some in-depth research. It would appear that my assumption was indeed accurate. My personal information from
our archives also contradicts this information you have provided me. However, I think this finally places a spotlight on this subject and will flush
it out into the open. I have also forwarded this information to three other Shards to see if they are willing to force an internal independent
It would appear that in my attempt to provide needed information to the public; I too have gained something important; hopefully some good can come of
all of this. I can assure you that however illusive our past may be I can accurately account for it from the early 1920's to present day, and that I
am indeed NOT "laughing my ass off" at some fictitious creation of mine. Our past may be inaccurate, but our present existence is reality.
I will reiterate and elaborate about the origins of our Shard, and not just the Icelandic Shard, this may hopefully place this into perspective. In
the year 1933 my Shard was formed (I will also ask my Shard if I can disclose more to you). My grandfather moved here with his family in 1957. The
time period from 1933 to 1962 is when the Shards went through what we call the "Reclamation Period." This is the time when the Canadian and
Icelandic Shards had aligned themselves and began branching out. In this time period during our multiple geographical and geopolitical advances new
discoveries where made with the very origins of Illuminism; origins well predating that of the Bavarian Illuminati. These discoveries lead to an
internal upheaval and reformation which as a result produced the Icelandic Council. This "Upheaval Period" brought us closer to true Illuminism and
is when we formally recognized ourselves as Illuminons. We never truly regarded ourselves as Illuminati; at least before about the turn of the
century, 1900. This is when (as I stated earlier) the (now alleged) Agoustous Knigge attempt to control the Icelandic Shard and thus began the further
shattering of the Icelandic Shard. Shortly after the Icelandic Shard descended into chaos (Upheaval Period) and Knigge withdrew his participation.
This period from the turn of the century to about 1928 is when a Canadian woman of all people began to reunite the Shards. Although given the time
period she was not fully able to bring them back together (female inferiority) until her later husband, provided the strength of leadership to reunite
the Shards of the Illuminati (thus my title, even though technically it was no longer the "Official" Illuminati, they still bore resemblance and
[alleged] ancestry to the original Bavarian Illuminati).
In most cases records do exist predating the "Upheaval Period," but they are mostly in the sole possession of the Icelandic Shard, and with it the
Icelandic Council. For such records we rely on the Icelandic Council's word. As a result I am going to formally request these documents and all
pertinent data to either confirm or deny Agoustous Knigge's existence. I should hopefully have a response form the Icelandic Council tomorrow
Hopefully this places previous... over generalizations into better perspective and context. Most information I am speaking of (the orginization en
whole) has been passed down and relayed through the generations form the Icelandic Shard. As a caveat, I may add that the Seven Shards of the Canadian
Shard (The original three specifically) has had issues with our representatives being overlooked (railroaded) by the Icelandic Shard. Unfortunately,
Canadian and Icelandic origins still play in the political arena of jockeying for influence and voice sadly enough; although few Illuminons but the
form the seven Canadian Shards would admit this.