It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

A Mysterious Photograph About an Unsolved Case

page: 2
6
<< 1    3  4  5 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on May, 4 2008 @ 10:00 PM
link   
Hi Debris!
Thanks for popping in here! Am looking at your images now and seeing what you are! Will comment on them after I look them over again!

Here's my analysis of the photograph that Free Spirit posted.




posted on May, 4 2008 @ 10:00 PM
link   
Looks like a swastika to me. Weired.



posted on May, 4 2008 @ 10:27 PM
link   

Originally posted by debris765nju
There's a whole bunch of aliens there, look close, they are in 3D


You're right about that on debris! Every time I would change the contrast of this photo, new faces would show up! It's chock full of beings and this threw me for a loop because I didn't expect to see so many of them!

Your technique is excellent for showing just how many beings there actually are in that photograph -- especially those really small ones .. your technique isolates those one's really well so we can all see them better!
Very holographic!



posted on May, 4 2008 @ 11:01 PM
link   

Originally posted by wang_ke
Also, free spirit, can you give us a link to where you got that photo?

I would have to view that webpage and find out who wrote it before I could determine if it's really one of those photo's of "aliens" sent out to researchers by Guardian.

thanks


[edit on 4-5-2008 by wang_ke]


It is not a link or a webpage, I have them in my archive. The photos as well as the
footage and documents were delivered to Bob Oechsler only, not to other researchers
as you mentioned. It was Bob Oechsler who shared the materials with other people
for the investigation purposes and they received copies and more copies began
circulating everywhere. That was a long time ago.

I think the images you posted are showing just artifacts created by those filters you
are using. The more saturation you apply to the image the more artifacts you are
getting and these artifacts can create visual illusions of shapes and forms.



posted on May, 4 2008 @ 11:18 PM
link   
According to the information I read on the net, Bob O. was not the only researcher who received a video from Guardian. I also read that Bob was the only one to get photo's of "aliens" -- the first time was a photo copy of one and the second one was a photograph. I'm under the impression that they were different images and not the same.

But my information is only coming from the internet where most of it about that case was either reported by Bob O. or a couple of those Canadian Mufon researchers. As for anybody else on the net who have write ups on this story, the consensus seems divided as far as whose side they were on ... Bob O's or the Mufon investigators who teamed up with him on that case. A lot of biased reporting on this story no matter who's doing the write up.



posted on May, 4 2008 @ 11:22 PM
link   
Ya'll are freaking me out. I mean it. LOL! My first thought when I saw all the faces was not of aliens, but of our human spirits. I believe we leave an imprint such as this behind when we pass, like how Kirlian photos show up an aputated arm , it is like we are amputated from our bodies. I saw these faces and thought what if that is our people who have died? Just my thoughts on it. Great thread.

Edit= horrible spelling!

[edit on 4-5-2008 by space cadet]



posted on May, 4 2008 @ 11:30 PM
link   

Originally posted by free_spirit

Originally posted by wang_ke
Also, free spirit, can you give us a link to where you got that photo?

I would have to view that webpage and find out who wrote it before I could determine if it's really one of those photo's of "aliens" sent out to researchers by Guardian.

thanks


[edit on 4-5-2008 by wang_ke]




I think the images you posted are showing just artifacts created by those filters you
are using. The more saturation you apply to the image the more artifacts you are
getting and these artifacts can create visual illusions of shapes and forms.



No.. sorry but you are wrong but I'm not going to argue with you because you're entitled to your own opinion. I'm not using any special effect filters on these photo's and all I'm doing, in this case, is using the dodge tool to see what's underneath the dark areas... when one changes the contrast of such photo's or inverts them, then different things show up too. It's very holographic. The simple process used to see these beings in these photo's is sometimes like peeling away an onion... layer by layer.
I'm not creating any visual illusions of shapes and forms and instead am only uncovering what's already there.
I have no desire what so ever to create illusions especially because I'm a serious researcher in this area. I see these unseen beings made visible that show up in our photographs and photographs of others and I also am keenly interested in understanding and classifying them too. That I sometimes share my results here on this board is only because I think it's relevant and pertinent to the topic being discussed in any given thread and also because I enjoy engaging in conversation with others about such results and getting feedback on them.
Just like Debris said, there are unseen beings all around us but by analyzing photo's and using a simple process which allows some things to be seen that were not seen before, we are in turn able to actually see them with our own eyes! Much like the way film rolls are "developed" in a photographic dark room by immersing those films in chemicals to develop them -- the same goes here only in this case, no chemicals are used and all we are doing is taking this process one step further.

This said though, many times "they" also show up just by taking a photo or recording a video and then viewing those vids on playback -- they just show up clearly when viewed immediately on playback without any "uncovering" process and brightener/contrast adjustments. Some of us, including myself and Debris, have a knack for getting such images like this ... and so do many others.


[edit on 5-5-2008 by wang_ke]



posted on May, 4 2008 @ 11:56 PM
link   

Originally posted by space cadet
Ya'll are freaking me out. I mean it. LOL! My first thought when I saw all the faces was not of aliens, but of our human spirits. I believe we leave an imprint such as this behind when we pass, like how Kirlian photos show up an aputated arm , it is like we are amputated from our bodies. I saw these faces and thought what if that is our people who have died? Just my thoughts on it. Great thread.

Edit= horrible spelling!

[edit on 4-5-2008 by space cadet]


In some schools of metaphysics, such beings are sometimes called the Spirits of Form; the Exsousiai or Elohim are other terms used too. Think of them as the 'thought processes" of our universe .. they are the "creators" because it's through their imaginations that they create our world as we see and experience it. They are actively involved in the ongoing development of our planet on many different levels, including the physical.

Just as it says in The Book of Genesis:
"And God said, Let US make man in our image, after our
likeness:..."
Who do you think He was talking too?

This is why we see faces in these images that look human and the reason why is because man was fashioned in God's image -- and so were they.

But there are also other types of "beings" who show up in these images too as well as human dis-incarnates too. But all of these other beings are their creations too, just like we are. But there's much, much more to all of this... lol, a whole lot more.

Just throwing out some idea's here. There are somethings about this topic I'm much more certain about but, in other area's, I'm still in the information gathering stage where I have not yet come to any definite final conclusions. But the bottom line is to remain open minded as this allows one to evaluate any information about this topic in an objective manner.


[edit on 5-5-2008 by wang_ke]



posted on May, 5 2008 @ 08:24 AM
link   
Some additional comments along this same stream of thought.
And just like it says in the Book of Genesis, "In the beginning was the Word... and the Word was God", another term used for the term "Word" in this context is the term "Logos". God, the Word and the Logos all mean the same thing.

The term "Word" in itself implies Speech.... and speech is comprised of some thing that we call the alphabet. Each component of the alphabet are what we call letters. In speech human beings themselves (and everything else too) are fashioned. So what is God? God is the Word... God IS the speech and as a result of that "speech" there arises, through the activities of the "Spirits of Form" the form of man and everything else in our world and in our universe.

Now back to the topic of this thread. The photo of that "alien" has letters and numbers imprinted on its forehead. But in many of my explorations of photo's that clearly show anomalous images in them, we also see letters and numbers either superimposed on things in that photograph or embedded in the "noise" of those photo's. Such letters and numbers are the "substance" from which the Spirits of Form create. And that "substance" is the speech of God... is the Logos, is the alphabet weaved by The Spirits of Form into the creation of all "forms" we see in our world, including us.

When there are letters and numbers seen like this in these photo's, we are informed that the Spirits of Form can be seen in those photo's too... or it's a reminder to us that they are there. All we have to do is look for them but sometimes it takes a trained eye to see them, at least at first. And if you want to communicate to them in some shape or form... just "Ask, and you shall receive".


And in our photographic evaluations, we also see cases of anomalous images/objects that are actually composed of many Spirits of Form who have merged together to form one object... in some cases those objects are what some have identified as UFOs. The Spirits of Form can merge together and form any shape they desire...

We can see that there are many of these beings there because we see many faces in that object that are layered onto them ...

But when analyzing such photo's, it's like the peeling away of an onion... layer by layer... they are there....


[edit on 5-5-2008 by wang_ke]



posted on May, 5 2008 @ 08:49 AM
link   
reply to post by debris765nju
 


debris765nju, you said in your above post:

The unseen people compressing themselves together to form a visual object for focusing human attention where they want it to be. Have you ever seen a Fakir from India charming a cobra? That is what these beings are doing to you.


I'm so glad that you have made these observations too in your work in this area because I too have analyzed such photo's like this and have noted that these unseen beings, people, as you call them, merge together to form a visual object in that photograph, in this case, the most prominent object is the alien itself!

Through their imaginations, these creators are expressing themselves by merging together into a defined shape and form for us to see. And their manifestations are sometimes even a reflection of humanities primordial collective unconscious mind. They are able to tap into that and create visible representations of what exist in this vastly uncharted ocean of the unconscious mind so that we can actually see them in our photographs! They are, as you say, charming us... they are entertaining us while at the same time reminding us just how powerful our thoughts actually are!


[edit on 5-5-2008 by wang_ke]



posted on May, 5 2008 @ 09:26 AM
link   
Just for reference, the term Elohim (The Spirits of Form) is also using in the Book of Samuel in that part about the witch of Endor.


it is used to describe the spirit of the dead prophet Samuel, raised by Saul in 1 Samuel 28:13. The witch of Endor tells Saul that she sees 'gods' (elohim) coming up out of the earth; this seems to indicate that the term was indeed used simply to mean something like 'divine beings' in ancient Israel.


en.wikipedia.org...

But "they" are also coming "out from the earth"... this implies that we are not the only sentient tenants in the house. We share our planet with other sentient beings and even though most of the time, we can't see them.. they are still there nevertheless.

And here's a reference in The Book of Genesis using the term "Elohim".

.... but may refer to powerful beings (e.g. Genesis 6:2, "... the sons of Elohim saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them for wives... ,"

en.wikipedia.org...

I found this groups interpretation of the word Elohim interesting too:

The Raelian Movement translates 'Elohim' to "Those who come from the heavens" or "Those who come from the sky", keeping with the hypothesis that it is a plural form of 'Eloha', which would in turn mean, "He/She who comes from the heavens/sky". Elohim would then be those extra-terrestrials who came from the sky and created all life on Earth using their advanced science. Elohim were scientifically advanced people from another planets, extra-terrestrials similar to us, and they created all life on Earth using their genetic engineering, bio-science, and they are mentioned in Bible as "Elohim" ("those,who came from the sky") so that is why was this word written in plural.


en.wikipedia.org...

[edit on 5-5-2008 by wang_ke]



posted on May, 5 2008 @ 12:13 PM
link   
Back to my discussion of those letters and numbers that are often found in photograph's where there are many Spirits of Form, as well a other beings too. Many times those letters that appear in photographs looked like Hebrew.

The information below gives a good example of this...
Another example of the Spirits of Form in action...

I recall a photograph that was shown by Jamie Maussan in his 2005 Conference video where towards the end of his presentation, he shows a photograph of what looked like Hebrew letters inexplicably aligned on a mountain side in Mexico (Volcan Iztaccihuatl) in 2003 where the night before those letters appeared, there were lights seen in that same area by many witnesses.




Maussan sent a photograph of those letters to a Hebrew scholar in Israel who then analyzed the writing which in old Hebrew says: "On the 9th, the dragon will be born". The Hebrew scholar also said this can be interpreted as "On the 9th, KNOWLEDGE will be born" as the word "dragon" also means "serpent" which also can be interpreted as the word "Knowledge" in old Hebrew.



[edit on 5-5-2008 by wang_ke]



posted on May, 5 2008 @ 12:24 PM
link   
Hi Wang_ke, most excellent thread, i always enjoy your commentary, you have a way with words. I would like to offer the comment that many things impact the earth, several thousand meteorites every day, the occasional asteroid and comet. They are also alien transport units. You notice i didn't suggest this is so, i said it is so. What you have done with these alien pictures can also be done with the photo's of recovered meteorites, the "deep impact" comet and various asteroids as shown on the NGS NEAR site. If you are a non-physical entity you are not affected by the things that would kill or destroy physical beings. You can ride on the outside of the spacecraft without harm. There is nothing to injure. You can enter the object without benefit of a door. One of the confusing elements of these "people" is that not only can they create an image or "avatar" they can also "possess" most living creatures. They can do this in degrees, such as just riding an individual, to influencing it to go somewhere or do something to forcing that individual to do their will against its own will and its own best interests.

[edit on 5-5-2008 by debris765nju]



posted on May, 5 2008 @ 12:37 PM
link   
Thanks for your comments debris! Much food for thought here and need time to process what you are saying here. Thanks for your input...
Also, these entities are very active in the human etheric body --- a stray thought just popped up but this also sheds some light on just how much our thoughts have an effect on our health and well being.

PS... very interesting... lol, I think you're way ahead of me on some of this stuff, that's for sure!


[edit on 5-5-2008 by wang_ke]



posted on May, 5 2008 @ 02:23 PM
link   

Originally posted by debris765nju
Hi Wang_ke, most excellent thread, i always enjoy your commentary, you have a way with words. I would like to offer the comment that many things impact the earth, several thousand meteorites every day, the occasional asteroid and comet. They are also alien transport units. You notice i didn't suggest this is so, i said it is so. What you have done with these alien pictures can also be done with the photo's of recovered meteorites, the "deep impact" comet and various asteroids as shown on the NGS NEAR site. If you are a non-physical entity you are not affected by the things that would kill or destroy physical beings. You can ride on the outside of the spacecraft without harm. There is nothing to injure. You can enter the object without benefit of a door. One of the confusing elements of these "people" is that not only can they create an image or "avatar" they can also "possess" most living creatures. They can do this in degrees, such as just riding an individual, to influencing it to go somewhere or do something to forcing that individual to do their will against its own will and its own best interests.

[edit on 5-5-2008 by debris765nju]


Do you have a link to that NGS NEAR site?
Also, could you post one of those photo's you've analyzed on this? Would like to see that!



posted on May, 5 2008 @ 02:37 PM
link   

Originally posted by sherpa
I can say is the hand reminds me of the hand on this supposed alien.






I think this supposed alien baby looks like one of the harlequin babies that is being talked about here a lot. Here is a link to the wiki:en.wikipedia.org...

Also, on the close up of the alien head, I too saw a swastika.

Interesting thread!



posted on May, 5 2008 @ 03:04 PM
link   

Originally posted by hotbakedtater
I think this supposed alien baby looks like one of the harlequin babies that is being talked about here a lot. Here is a link to the wiki:en.wikipedia.org...

Hi hotbakedtater

That's one of the Filiberto Caponi's alleged alien encounter photos

Here you can find an article about it, and some more photos

www.ufocasebook.com...



posted on May, 5 2008 @ 07:33 PM
link   
One of the most effective means of conveying a great deal of information in a short space of time is the comparison photograph. This is the Gable beast currently being hosted on ats michigan dogman and Gable thing... it is the same picture. The top picture is the unenhanced still picture from the Gable video of a morphing creature, it began as a man=shape crawling toward the photographer, it draws the humanlike head between the shoulderblades into the chest cavity, at the same time if forces a new animal like head from the butt, shifting directions without turning around in seconds. The botttom photo shows the identity of who is really doing all that shifting and how it is connected to its surroundings, literally. Just thought you would like to know.



posted on May, 5 2008 @ 08:20 PM
link   
Click on photo to see entire meteorite. Sorry, i posted it twice trying to fix it. This is the b&w picture of the historic Willamette Meteor, the colors are courtesy of the aliens who rode the meteorite to earth. I am real comfortable with the aliens because i know they came from space so i'm not standing on their relatives. You can find more details by typing Willamette Meteorite on your browser. Hate to say it, but i haven't the faintest idea how to post a link to anything, but all you have to do is go to the Nat"l. Geological Survey site and click on N.E.A.R. to see pictures of local asteroids.



posted on May, 6 2008 @ 06:25 AM
link   
reply to post by debris765nju
 



One of the most effective means of conveying a great deal of information in a short space of time is the comparison photograph. This is the Gable beast currently being hosted on ats michigan dogman and Gable thing... it is the same picture. The top picture is the unenhanced still picture from the Gable video of a morphing creature, it began as a man=shape crawling toward the photographer, it draws the humanlike head between the shoulderblades into the chest cavity, at the same time if forces a new animal like head from the butt, shifting directions without turning around in seconds. The botttom photo shows the identity of who is really doing all that shifting and how it is connected to its surroundings, literally. Just thought you would like to know.


Right you are Debris! Those "faces" in this one are large too so one does not even have to enlarge the screen in Internet Explorer to see them more clearly. I fact, I've found that it's often best to first view these images, the before and after ones, from a distance from the monitor too, because often times, one see's things that one didn't notice with looking at them close up.

But I'm seeing "face" at the rear end part of that Gable beast too -- it's very clear! Good observations!



new topics

top topics



 
6
<< 1    3  4  5 >>

log in

join