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Why Gas in the U.S. Is So CHEAP ???

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posted on May, 3 2008 @ 11:29 AM
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Why Gas in the U.S. Is So CHEAP ???


finance.yahoo.com

Relatively low taxes have kept pump prices far below most other developed nations, which some say is precisely why the current runup is so painful.

Despite daily headlines bemoaning record gas prices, the U.S. is actually one of the cheaper places to fill up in the world.

Out of 155 countries surveyed, U.S. gas prices were the 45th cheapest, according to a recent study from AIRINC, a research firm that tracks cost of living data.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on May, 3 2008 @ 11:29 AM
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wows and we American shouting like hell about rise in oil i feel so sorry about those who pay 10$ hell out of money.

finance.yahoo.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 11:34 AM
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Its pretty misleading. Don't forget that in many nations, particularly throughout western Europe, gasoline taxes are incredibly high and are the reason they pay so much.



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 11:38 AM
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BUT WHY WE MAKE SO MUCH CRY ABOUT PRICE HICK? IF WE CALM DOWN LITTLE OUT SHOULDERS WERE NOT BE IN IRAQ ....WHAT YOU SAY WAR ON OIL?



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 11:49 AM
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Its a big deal because the entire economy is ultimately based upon the price and availability of fuel. Toss a 300% price increase for gasoline into the mix within a narrow timeframe and you've introduced a major fundamental shock to the economy. The rest of the world isn't immune to this, either, particularly geographically large, developing nations such as India and China, where goods and labor presumably must travel large distances on a daily basis.



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 11:51 AM
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Does anyone have to mention that $5 US dollars equals:

5 EUR = 7.72 USD

Of course, it would have been more were we in the USA in good shape.

Then there's the standard of living. Like how much housing, food, clothes, utilities cost YOU as opposed to ME.

Just looking at Canada, wow, its so obvious that the Dollar just isnt worth anything at all!



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 11:53 AM
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Of course, European countries have a well-developed mass transit system, and most cities there were designed with the pedestrian in mind, a stark opposite of American cities, where mass transit consists of a single bus that might come, might not, and road planning that revolves around eight lanes of cars.

But then, if this post is a "don't cry America, someone else has it worse than you!" well, that's pretty nonsensical, since what other people pay really has no logical effect on Americans. We work with American standards - not Swedish fuel standards, not Hatian education standards, not Chinese political standards...



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 11:54 AM
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It's true we have experienced lower prices for fuel than other nations, but we're not the lowest. In the middle east, gasoline is still dirt cheap.

Also, if you want to compare us with Europe, the USA is a much larger country, and the infrastructure (corporations, manufacturing, etc) are based on cheap fuel as they are typically based on lots of travel. To us, crossing from Alabama into Mississippi is marked only by a sign alongside the road. A move from New York to retire in sunny Florida is seen as common thing. There's nothing unusual about a corporate exec needingt to leave Boston to spend a few days in LA at another facility.

In Europe, the countries are small. A movement from France to Spain requires another language and a different culture. Thusly, companies are not typically spread across different countries, as they are across different states here.

You also have less open country there than here. Take a drive across Kansas sometime. You'll spend hours driving through what seems like nowhere, with a precious few houses spotting the landscape here and there. Everything else is farmland. People in this kind of area cannot make it without some form of transportation, and I'm not talking bicycle. You see something similar in any of the Great Plains states, the western states, even some areas of the Deep South.

Comparing Europe to the USA is comparing apples to oranges, as is comparing their fuel prices to ours.

TheRedneck



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 11:58 AM
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I'd like to see the 155 countries surveyed. You know supply and demand is another factor that plays into it. Some countries prices are higher because of what it takes to get it there.

This whole thread seems very misleading. IMO.


AAC



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 12:00 PM
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So you say yahoo mislead with that artical its not blogger artical



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 02:13 PM
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At the risk of a one-line post... YES, I do!

TheRedneck



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 03:10 PM
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Gas may be much more expensive in Europe but that does not mean gas prices in the US are not a cause for concern. As others have pointed very few Americans have access to good public transportation and the cheap fuel is vital to the US economy. Another thing that must be pointed out is that while Europeans pay more for gas, they get healthcare and other social services for free.



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 04:53 PM
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But we need on the cost of iraqi blood cheap fuel give me brake



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 05:08 PM
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Sigh I guess I have to say this in another thread....the reason why people are pissed because..


A. We spend 18 Billion dollars a year to subsidize the oil companies.

B. We are the third largest producer of oil and the first largest refiner but yet only the 45th cheapest? Venezuela is $.12 a gallon and they dont even refine their own stuff. That is why. Where is our discount. If we are the top refiner there is no reason we should be higher than Venezuela who pays us to refine their oil and can still give their gas away for crack money. WAKE UP PEOPLE OR SHOULD I SAY SHEEPLE

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In many oil producing nations gas is absurdly cheap. In Venezuela it's 12 cents a gallon. In Saudi Arabia it's 45.

The governments there forego the money from selling that oil on the open market - instead using the money to make their people happy and encourage their nations' development.

Subsidies, many analysts say, are encouraging rampant demand in these countries, pushing up the price of oil worldwide."

Read the full article.



[edit on 3-5-2008 by mybigunit]



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by 123space
But we need on the cost of iraqi blood cheap fuel give me brake


I don't want to seem rude but what no one has said, and I'm quite sure everyone is thinking - could you please make more sense when you type?

I'm not insulting you or anything, but it really just kills your own thread when no one knows what you're trying to say. When no one knows what you're trying to say, they're not going to waste their time trying to figure it out. They're just going to leave.

So please, type out your sentences and thoughts clearly so that everyone can understand.

On topic: Personally, I don't care how much people in Monaco are paying for gas. I know how much I'm paying, and thats all I'm concerned about. I'll let them worry about, and do something about, how much they pay, and I'll worry about how much I pay.

I wouldn't expect them to be concerned about how much leftover money is in my wallet after filling up my car, so I won't be concerned about them.

In the last two years, the price per barrel on oil has risen over $60 dollars. Thats absolutely ridiculous and its criminal. I don't have to pay $10 a gallon to be pissed off and fight for change. $2 a gallon was ridiculous, but what we're heading towards, and quite rapidly I might add, needs to be dealt with before it gets here.

Our price of living, our taxes, our economies - everything is different from country to country. You can't simply compare this price to that price and think you have the whole story.



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 05:42 PM
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So what you are saying is that because you are a bigger country and use more petrol you should be entitled to it cheaper?
This is nonsense!
Your gas prices are way out of line with other industrialised nations, you produce the most emissions of any western nation and refuse to agree to the kyoto protocol and you all still whine about your comparitively low gas prices! Poor babys! You have it so tough! And all this despite securing Iraqs oilfields. What a suprise to learn posters don't care how much it costs in other countries! And you wonder why the rest of the world isn't too keen on you! The rest of the world really feels sorry for you spoilt americans which is why your foreign policy is now biting you on the ass.
If there was any justice you'd be paying $50 a gallon. You guys make me sick.



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by 123space

Why Gas in the U.S. Is So CHEAP ???


finance.yahoo.com

Relatively low taxes have kept pump prices far below most other developed nations, which some say is precisely why the current runup is so painful.

Despite daily headlines bemoaning record gas prices, the U.S. is actually one of the cheaper places to fill up in the world.

Out of 155 countries surveyed, U.S. gas prices were the 45th cheapest, according to a recent study from AIRINC, a research firm that tracks cost of living data.
(visit the link for the full news article)



IMO what people pay per gallon does not exactly make it cheaper for the average U.S. citizen. In places like here in Alaska people are forced to buy gas for their vehicles as well as their homes which can get pretty ridiculous. Fuel-oil prices are so high that some people end up having to live in their vehicles in winter because they can't afford the price of fuel-oil to stay alive in their homes.

This oil crisis is the only reason we are seeing food-rationing at american Sam's club stores for certain food items (There are multiple causes but without the oil prices being like they are the food crisis would not exist).This is just the beginning and the price of gas really isn't that bad compared to what it will be in another 3-4 years according to the economists and experts. The New York Times had a story Tuesday that sais Fuel prices could be about double what they are now within 4 yrs (IMO even that is optimistic).

No effort has been made by our political leaders to lower our dependance on oil (which is actually, again, talk but no action). There hasn't been any great alternative energy movement and there won't under an illiterate president who can't tie his shoes. Therefore the oil crisis will continue to affect the average american family until, possibly, our economy simply goes under altogether. If you don't think it could then you haven't been paying attention.

This is just the beginning for us and the rest of the world for that matter. The food crisis, primarily affecting nations that were already having a hard time affording the price of oil, is going to kill alot of people and it isn't going to be pretty. My worst fear is that other governments' economies begin to collapse and then ours. Somtimes I wish I had an underground bunker like in that movie "blast from the past". We aren't going to see the end of this crisis anytime soon.

-ChriS

[edit on 3-5-2008 by BlasteR]

[edit on 3-5-2008 by BlasteR]



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 06:41 PM
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i think gasoline is relatively cheap here in the USA is because
our we have secret deals made by twisting-arms of the major producers.

the Saudi kingdom supplies the USA with little oil, but the price of oil is based on that OPEC market price.
Even when domestic oil is pumped out at ~$10.BBL and sold at $119.BBL

the tax on the recovered oil is based on the $10BBL extraction price
not on the $119BBL price... so therefore the false impression that the USAs gov't tax is extremely low in comparison to all those Social-Democrat gov'ts in Europe.
~ will they start pricing gasoline in pints instead of liters ? vis-a-vis the USA Gallon? ~


this is way too complex for a 1 or 2 post response,
so just disregard this post.......thanks



posted on May, 3 2008 @ 06:52 PM
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Dude, it's clear that English is not 123's native tongue, so give him a break.

Regarding fuel costs, it's all what the market will bear. If you pay what they want the prices will continue to rise.


apc

posted on May, 3 2008 @ 07:31 PM
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We Americans are shouting? I would appreciate it if you did not generalize as I am not a part of that collective. Fuel prices could double without significantly impacting me as I currently spend less than $100 a month on gas anyway.

Just wait until a socialist takes office next year. Cheap gas will be a distant memory.



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