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The Masonic Waldorf Education System VITRIOL

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posted on May, 3 2008 @ 06:17 AM
Many people don't realize how much Rudolph Steiner's Waldorf Education affects our public schools.

Source: Caroline Ostheimer - Waldorf Education

The Waldorf School movement, begun in Stuttgart, Germany in 1919, is a fascinating forerunner of today's "whole brain" education. It is currently the second largest independent school system in the world, with about 300 schools in 21 countries, about 90 of which are in North America. The movement was founded by the Austrian philosopher and mystic, Rudolf Steiner (1861-1925), whose work touched virtually every area of human inquiry and activity

Wikipedia: Waldorf education - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The first Waldorf school was founded in 1919; there are now more than 1000[11][12] independent Waldorf schools and 1400 independent Waldorf kindergartens[13] located in approximately sixty countries throughout the world, making up one of the world's largest independent educational systems, as well as Waldorf-based government-funded schools and charter schools, Waldorf homeschooling environments,[2] and Waldorf schools for special education. Waldorf methods have also been adopted by significant numbers of teachers within traditional state and private schools.[14][15]

So now, knowing the significant influence of this system, which is a study in itself, let's look into Rudolf Steiner a bit.

Lecture: Lecture: Salt, Mercury, Sulphur
(here, we establish Steiners influences)

As I propose to follow up the theme of our lecture yesterday, [ Published in Anthroposophy, Christmas, 1930.] I would remind you of the three figures whose outstanding importance has lasted from the turn of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries right on into our own times, namely, Giordano Bruno, Lord Bacon of Verulam and Jacob Boehme

So then, Steiner goes into explaining the philosophy of Salt, Mercury and Sulphur.

What did these expressions — salt, mercury, sulphur — still mean in the Folk-Wisdom from which Jacob Boehme derived his ideas?

But here is where one should be concerned.
Steiner speaks with great admiration of Giordano Bruno.

Link: Giordano Bruno: The Forgotten Philosopher

It is easy to get an impression of the reputation which Bruno had created by the year 1582 in the minds of the clerical authorities of southern Europe. He had written of an infinite universe which had left no room for that greater infinite conception which is called God. He could not conceive that God and nature could be separate and distinct entities as taught by Genesis, as taught by the Church and as even taught by Aristotle. He preached a philosophy which made the mysteries of the virginity of Mary, of the crucifixion and the mass, meaningless.

So basically, Bruno was not convinced that there is a higher power, and that man is the higher power. Loosely interpreted, we have no Maker, or God doesn't exist as the bible suggests.

But, Bruno goes further to suggest that the "ass" is everywhere.

His other works were The Infinity, the Universe and Its Worlds, The Transport of Intrepid Souls, and Cabala of the Steed like unto Pegasus with the Addition of the Ass of Cyllene, an ironical discussion of the pretensions of superstition. This "ass," says Bruno, is to be found everywhere, not only in the church but in courts of law and even in colleges.

Who is this "ass"?


Link: Waldorf Critics Archive 0009 (September, 2000)

Further consideration leads me to think that perhaps Paulina is
a Waldorf victim, or a victim of anthroposophy, depending on
whether she was raised in anthroposophy or became enmeshed in
the anthropop culture as a result of training in Waldorf at an
early age.
In the beginning of the 20th century, a manufacturer from
Vienna Dr. Karl
Kellner, and a German theosophist Dr. Franz Hertmann, founded a
secret occult
lodge which they named "Ordo Templi Orientis" (O.T.O.). Soon
after they were
joined by Theodore Reuss (1855-1923) who had connections with
many lodges. It
was he who led Rudolf Steiner, the founder of anthroposophy,
into such a group.
Reuss, whose lodge-name was "Brother Merlin", contacted
Aleister Crowley
in 1912, and he became a member of this additional lodge
receiving the name
"Brother Baphomet". Baphomet, the symbol of the satanic goat,
usually portrayed
as a half-human, half-goat figure, of a goat head.

But, Levi, well known to Freemasonry, describes Baphomet a bit differently.
Link: Book of Thoth

This card is attributed to the letter Ayin, which means an Eye, and it refers to Capricornus in the Zodiac. In the Dark Ages of Christianity, it was completely misunderstood. Eliphaz Levi studied it very deeply because of its connection with ceremonial magic, his favourite subject; and he re-drew it, identifying it with Baphomet, the ass-headed idol of the Knights of the Temple.

Path of Ayin: Thelemapedia: The Encyclopedia of Thelema & Magick | Path of Ayin

Then we come to celebrating the Scarlet Woman depicted in Revelation.
# Revelation 17:3
So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Revelation 17:2-4 (in Context) Revelation 17 (Whole Chapter)

Scarlet Woman Lodge—founded in 1993 and located in the Valley of Austin Texas—is a local body of Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.) under charter from U.S. Grand Lodge. We are a fraternal, initiatory organization—similar to Freemasonry and the ancient mystery schools—that has accepted the Law of Thelema as revealed in The Book of the Law.

Source: Scarlet Woman Lodge, Ordo Templi Orientis

So, you see. Evil is infiltrated everywhere, and we are at a spiritual crossroads.

[edit on 3-5-2008 by cutbothways]

posted on May, 3 2008 @ 06:30 AM
The Rockefellers are/were also heavily involved in the dumbing down of American schools.

"Plans are underway to replace community, family, and church with propaganda, education, and mass media....the State shakes loose from Church, reaches out to School … People are only little plastic lumps of human dough." -Edward A. Ross, “Social Control,” 1901

“Each year the child is coming to belong more to the State and less and less to the parent.” -Ellwood Cubberley, “Conceptions of Education” 1909

Before 1852 American education consisted of one-room school houses, independent teachers, and students of all ages attending of their own free will. Curriculums and funding came directly from local communities without a federalized bureaucracy ruling over every facet like today. From 1852-1918 things changed as the government began pushing to enforce compulsory schooling laws all across America. These were coupled with new “child labor laws” in an effort to take children off the farms from under their family’s tutelage and force them into indoctrination camps under the government’s tutelage. These laws were met with strenuous opposition at every turn by the US population and unless there was an incredibly well-backed agenda to make sure such laws passed, they would not have. If it was simply a matter of what the people in individual states really wanted, child labor and compulsory schooling issues would have been dropped as soon as they were raised.

“At first the laws were optional ... later the law was made state-wide but the compulsory period was short (ten to twelve weeks) and the age limits low, nine to twelve years. After this, struggle came to extend the time, often little by extend the age limits downward to eight and seven and upwards to fourteen, fifteen or sixteen; to make the law apply to children attending private and parochial schools, and to require cooperation from such schools for the proper handling of cases; to institute state supervision of local enforcement; to connect school attendance enforcement with the child-labor legislation of the State through a system of working permits.” -Ellwood Cubberley, “Public Education in the United States” 1919/34

Once federalized mandatory schooling was employed countrywide, the compulsory attendance of 9-12 year olds, 10-12 weeks a year, was incrementally lengthened to the point that nowadays 4 year olds are entering pre-schools and 26 year old doctors are still being indoctrinated. Ironically the longer students remain in their respective institutions, the more respect they are generally given in their field. Thus our “experts” in Medicine, Science, Technology, Philosophy, Economics, Politics etc. are generally those who have received the most government indoctrination.

“Since 1900, and due more to the activity of persons concerned with social legislation and those interested in improving the moral welfare of children than to educators themselves, there has been a general revision of the compulsory education laws of our States and the enactment of much new child-welfare ... and anti-child-labor legislation ... These laws have brought into the schools not only the truant and the incorrigible, who under former conditions either left early or were expelled, but also many children ... who have no aptitude for book learning and many children of inferior mental qualities who do not profit by ordinary classroom procedures ...Our schools have come to contain many children who ... become a nuisance in the school and tend to demoralize school procedure.” -Ellwood Cubberley, “Public Education in the United States” 1919/34

At the turn of the 20th century Cubberley spoke of how children mechanically minded, without aptitude for book learning, or of inferior mental capacities, “become a nuisance in the school and tend to demoralize school procedure.” At the turn of the 21st century, Bush continues pushing the idea of “No Child Left Behind,” the complete opposite, which expands special-ed at the expense of gifted and talented programs, promotes “outcome-based education” (an atrocious educational philosophy now being promoted), and furthers state control of your children. If you believe in the myth of a benevolent nanny-state that looks out for your best interests from cradle to grave, “No Child Left Behind” might fit well into your philosophy, but for independent individuals, lovers of freedom, this is the final step in government mind-control.

“In 1909 a factory inspector did an informal survey of 500 working children in 20 factories. She found that 412 of them would rather work in the terrible conditions of the factories than return to school.” -Helen Todd, "Why Children Work," McClure’s Magazine, April, 1913

“In one experiment in Milwaukee, for example, 8,000 youth ...were asked if they would return full-time to school if they were paid about the same wages as they earned at work; only 16 said they would.” David Tyack, “Managers of Virtue,” 1982

California Education Administrator Ellwood Cubberley was the main anti-establishment voice speaking out against the standardizing and Germanizing of our schools. The leading establishment voice was (1889-1906) US Commissioner of Education William Torrey Harris. Listen to Harris’ words from his 1906, “The Philosophy of Education”: “Ninety-nine [students] out of a hundred are automata, careful to walk in prescribed paths, careful to follow the prescribed custom. This is not an accident but the result of substantial education, which, scientifically defined, is the subsumption of the individual.” Is this a sane “Philosophy of Education” by anyone’s standards? This is the man who gave America scientifically age-graded classrooms to replace the long successful practice of mixed-age school houses. In “The Philosophy of Education,” Harris wrote his vision of the perfect classroom: “The great purpose of school can be realized better in dark, airless, ugly places ... It is to master the physical self, to transcend the beauty of nature. School should develop the power to withdraw from the external world.”

posted on May, 3 2008 @ 06:32 AM
The first federalized education board was the 1870 founded NEA (National Education Administration) which quickly announced that country-wide school science courses must be restructured to teach “evolution” as fact, not theory. Having gained a fair amount of pull in the NEA, in 1903, John. D. Rockefeller created the GEB (General Education Board) in an effort toward “this goal of social control.” Later, in 1923 he would also create the International Education Board providing over $20 million to promote education abroad. The Rockefeller, Carnegie and Ford groups have often funded (and thus steered) American education more so even than the government.

“Reading through the papers of the Rockefeller Foundation’s General Education Board - an endowment rivaled in school policy influence in the first half of the twentieth century only by Andrew Carnegie’s various philanthropies - seven curious elements force themselves on the careful reader: 1) There appears a clear intention to mold people through schooling. 2) There is a clear intention to eliminate tradition and scholarship. 3) The net effect of various projects is to create a strong class system verging on caste. 4) There is a clear intention to reduce mass critical intelligence while supporting infinite specialization. 5) There is clear intention to weaken parental influence. 6) There is clear intention to overthrow accepted custom. 7) There is striking congruency between the cumulative purposes of GEB projects and the utopian precepts of the oddball religious sect, once known as Perfectionism, a secular religion aimed at making the perfection of human nature, not salvation or happiness, the purpose of existence. The agenda of philanthropy, which had so much to do with the schools we got, turns out to contain an intensely political component.” -John Taylor Gatto, “The Underground History of American Education” (201)

“One would assume that, since the Rockefellers are thought of as capitalists, they would have used their fortune to foster the philosophy of individual liberty. But, just the opposite is true. We have been unable to find a single project in the history of the Rockefeller foundations which promotes free enterprise … almost all of the Rockefeller grants have been used directly or indirectly to promote economic and social collectivism, i.e., Socialism-Fascism.” -Gary Allen, “The Rockefeller File”

“Philanthropy is the essential element in the making of Rockefeller power. It gives the Rockefellers a priceless reputation as public benefactors which the public values so highly that power over public affairs is placed in the Rockefellers’ hands. Philanthropy generates more power than wealth alone can provide.” -Myer Kutz, “Rockefeller Power”

Rockefeller charity and philanthropy influences many sectors of society from education to politics to religion. Here’s an abridged list of Rockefeller funded organizations: American Assembly, American Association for the United Nations, American Friends Service Committee, Atlantic Union, Center for Advanced Study in Behavioral Science, Center of Diplomacy and Foreign Policy, Citizens Committee for International Development, Committees on Foreign Relations, Committee for Economic Development, Council on Foreign Relations, Federation of World Governments, Foreign Policy Association, Institute of International Education, Institute for World Order, National Planning Association US National Commission, The Trilateral Commission World Affairs Council, and United World Federalists. Notice any trends? Any doubt regarding the Rockefeller’s intent in starting the GEB should be clarified in John D’s own mission statement:

“In our dreams, people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands. The present education conventions of intellectual and character education fade from their minds, and, unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive folk. We shall not try to make these people, or any of their children, into philosophers, or men of science. We have not to raise up from them authors, educators, poets or men of letters. We shall not search for great artists, painters, musicians nor lawyers, doctors, preachers, politicians, statesmen – of whom we have an ample supply. The task is simple. We will organize children and teach them in a perfect way the things their fathers and mothers are doing in an imperfect way.” -John D. Rockefeller, General Education Board (1906)

This is not a man looking out for the best interest of students. You can get a good sense of his demeanor from statements like “yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands” and talking about creating a “perfect system” of state education better than imperfect parental education. Martin Luther King Jr., for one, disagrees with John. D. Rockefeller saying: “The group consisting of mother, father and child is the main educational agency of mankind.” Who do you agree with?

posted on May, 3 2008 @ 07:11 AM
Salt, Mercury and SULPHER.


“Visit the interior parts of the earth: by rectification thou shalt find the hidden stone”

Its initials make the word V.I.T.R.I.O.L., the Universal Solvent, to be discussed later. (Its value is 726=6 X 112=33 x 22.)

This “hidden stone” is also called the Universal Medicine. It is sometimes described as a stone, sometimes as a powder, sometimes as a tincture. It divides again into two forms, the gold and the silver, the red and the white; but its essence is always the same, and its nature is not to be understood except by experience. It is because the alchemists were dealing with substances on the borderland of “matter” that they are so difficult to understand. The subject-matter of chemistry and physics in modern times is what they would have called the study of dead things; for the real difference between living things and dead is, in the first instance, their behaviour.

The initials of the alchemical motto given above form the word Vitriol. This has nothing to do with the sulphates of either hydrogen, iron or copper, as might be supposed from modern usage. It represents a balanced combination of the three alchemical principles, Sulphur, Mercury and Salt. These names have no connection with substances so named by the vulgar; they have already been described in Atu 1.111 and IV

The counsel to “visit the interior of the earth” is a recapitulation (on a higher plane) of the first formula of the Work which has been the so constant theme of these essays. The important word in the injunction is the central word RECTIFICANDO; it implies the right leading of the new living substance in the path of the True Will. The stone of the Philosophers, the Universal Medicine, is to be a talisman of use in any event, a completely elastic and completely rigid vehicle of the True Will of the alchemists. It is to fertilize and bring to manifested Life the Orphic Egg.

The philosophers stone=vitriol=sulphuric acid.

Bill the Homeless man told me that battery acid (vitriol) would cure cancer.

He said, you could dilute it down with hydrogen peroxide, put it in an aerosol can, and spray it on skin cancer and the cancer would disappear.

Told people many times. They always laugh.

posted on May, 3 2008 @ 07:59 AM
Actually I believe just the opposite.

If he had MORE Waldorf in our school-system, things would look better.

The Waldorf-techniques being implented in our regular school-system are so minute that they dont make a difference.

Furthermore: In which way is Waldorf "Masonic"?

And Furthermore: If it were masonic, why would that make the education less valuable?

posted on May, 3 2008 @ 01:22 PM
The topic of this post is misleading....

What does Waldorf Education have to do with Freemasonry? How is it masonic exactly?

Is everything that you don't agree with now masonic?

posted on May, 3 2008 @ 02:22 PM
If public schools did even half of the great teaching children get in Waldorf Schools 1) our children would ALL be literate 2) our children would be custodians of our planet, rather than abusing it 3) our children would be artistic, creative, have individuality, be respectful, and speak at least three languages (two fluently)! Our daughter was educated in the Waldorf system. She was taught to knit in kindergarten, learned how to play imaginatively, taught to be kind and considerate of others and of nature, learned a second language (Spanish) starting in second and third grade (we moved before she could learn a third language (German) in the upper grades. She learned to play a musical instrument as well. Waldorf does not shove reading down the throats of kindergartners or 1st graders.
They teach them first to "finger knit". They have found that reading and manual dexterity go hand in hand. Since most children are not co-ordinated manually until about 2nd to 3rd grade, they are not taught to read until they are dexterous. Our daughter was reading college level text books in the 6th grade, and her "light" reading was about Andrew Jackson (her hero) and the Revolutionary War! As far as the Masonic inference...just forget it. Waldorf offers a fabulous education for all the children. Our daughter, because of her small amount of Waldorf education in her formative years, was an A student thru high school and college. She is a published author and is now a fashion designer!

posted on May, 3 2008 @ 04:37 PM
reply to post by paisley101

Man I wish we could claim this as one of our project. IT is Masonic only in that it shares some of the same ideals as Masonry. ie freedom of thought, freedom to grow as a person.

posted on May, 3 2008 @ 07:55 PM

Originally posted by cutbothways
Bill the Homeless man told me that battery acid (vitriol) would cure cancer.

Augustus the Not-so-Homeless Man thinks that it might make a good mouth wash as well. With the strict caveat that it is employed in its undiluted form.

posted on May, 3 2008 @ 08:43 PM
reply to post by cutbothways

The world should realize that our public school system is one of the most corrupted-systems in the world. The porch-masons' masters have systematically ruined most of the world's economies, governments, and educational-systems.

Even John F. Kennedy knew secret-societies were ruining America & other countries:

Google Video Link

Thats right, old JFK says everything thats happening now is basically...well... unamerican... This is an excerpt from his speech "President and the Press." I encourage you to listen to it first and not view the picture show on the video in front of you as the words speak for themselves. Its a rushed job with this video as you can see, but I wanted to get it up as soon as possible. This speech applies to so much going on today, you will understand why "they" had him killed.

The TRUTH inside the Jesuit Assassins

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A look into where we've come from, where we're going and more importantly- who is taking us there. From the Jesuit Oath we can link Nazis, Bush, a New World Order, conspiracy theories, skull and bones, freemasons, illuminati, JFK, 9/11, the holocaust, zionism, UFO, Satan, demons and more. The truth never gets old and the prophecies speak of the very same things...and NOT just Bible prophecies. Thanks for viewing and please feel free to rate and comment at will, while we still live in a free society.

posted on May, 3 2008 @ 09:10 PM
Good Lord! Good Baphomet! Good Mary, Mother of God! Good... Whomever else I may have overlooked.

It's me... Ol' Paranoid Sigung86 again.

I just started really paying attention again, after a layoff of some months for other than lightly treading on ATS.

You guys really are trying aren't you?

I have a lot of time today to be on the internet, because my wife is out with the flu bug, and I'm taking care of her. You guys, on the other hand, must not have much of a life unless it involves getting together and trying to bang on Masons.

Must ask this in all seriousness... Do you guys have time to bathe and shave seperately?

I am now going away and not going to bother with anymore of this anti-Masonic stuff. I'd wager, as mean as this post may sound, that you guys are the laughing stock of ATS, and get to stay around for comedy relief.

Mods: If you must punish me for this post, please feel free. No offense taken from you, but this kind of stuff is the reason, I think, that a lot of the old timers are gone, some of the more erudite members publish sparingly, and the aura of many of these threads are like those of the National Enquirer. If, on the other hand, you let me slide, I promise not to get involved in this childishness, anymore.

[edit on 3-5-2008 by sigung86]

posted on May, 4 2008 @ 11:56 AM
Let's review the book of Thoth, to understand the importance of Salt, mercury and sulphur.

There cometh into the stone the great Angel whose name is Av2, and in him there are symbols which strive for mastery, --- Sulphur and the Pentagram, and they are harmonized by the Swastika3. These symbols are found both in the name of Av4 and in the name of the Aethyr. Thus he is neither Horus nor Osiris. He is called the radiance of Thoth; and this Aethyr is very hard to understand, for the images form and dissolve more rapidly than lightning. These images are the illusions made by the Ape of Thoth. And this I understand, that I am not worthy to receive the mysteries of this Aethyr. And all this which I have seen (being all the thoughts that I have ever thought) is, as it were, a guardian of the Aethyr5.

I seem quite helpless. I am trying all sorts of magical methods of piercing the veil: and the more I strive, the farther away I seem to get from success. But a voice comes now: Must not understanding lie open unto wisdom as the pyramids lie open to the stars?

Accordingly, I wait in a certain magical posture which it is not fitting to disclose, and above me appears the starry heaven6 of night, and one star greater than all the other stars. It is a star of eight rays. I recognize it as the star in the seventeenth key of the Tarot, as the Star of Mercury. And the light of it cometh from the path of Aleph. And the letter Cheth is also involved in the interpretation of this star, and the paths of he' and vau are the separations which this Star unites7. And in the heart of the star is an exceeding splendour, --- a god standing upon the moon, brilliant beyond imagining8. It is like unto the vision of the Universal Mercury. But this is the Fixed Mercury, and he' and vau are the perfected sulphur and salt. But now I come into the centre of the maze, and whirling dust of stars and great forgotten gods. It is the whirling Svastika which throws off all these things, for the Svastika is in aleph by the shape and number9, and in beth by the position of the arms of the Magician10, and in gimel11 because of the sign of the Mourning of Isis, and thus is the Crown defended by these three thunderbolts. Is not thrice seventeen fifty-one, that is, failure and pain?

posted on May, 4 2008 @ 01:12 PM
What exactly does Aleister Crowley's book of Thoth have to do with freemasonry? This book was not even written by him until 1944, so it is quite obvious that freemasonry did not derive from it.

Aleister Crowley was not made a mason in a regular lodge, which means that it is not recognized by the United Grand Lodge of England.

Also, for any true mason who attends an irregular lodge they would be brought up on charges. So you will not see any masons hanging out at an OTO lodge.

Edit: This is not to say they are not allowed to read it, but honestly the Book of Thoth does not align with freemasonry at all.

[edit on 5/4/2008 by Choronzon]

posted on May, 5 2008 @ 08:34 AM

Originally posted by Choronzon

Also, for any true mason who attends an irregular lodge they would be brought up on charges. So you will not see any masons hanging out at an OTO lodge.

Just for the record, any Mason may join the O.T.O., and O.T.O. members can become Masons. O.T.O. is not an "irregular" Masonic body. It isn't Masonic at all, so people can join both organizations.

The current Secretary for the Scottish Rite Research Society is a member of O.T.O. And Brother Lon Milo Duquette, Deputy Grand Master of the O.T.O. for North America, is a Master Mason and Scottish Rite Mason.

This is not to say they are not allowed to read it, but honestly the Book of Thoth does not align with freemasonry at all.

The book mentions Freemasonry only a couple of times. Crowley talks about the Quatuor Coronati Research Lodge in it.

posted on May, 5 2008 @ 08:37 AM

Originally posted by cutbothways

Bill the Homeless man told me that battery acid (vitriol) would cure cancer.

He said, you could dilute it down with hydrogen peroxide, put it in an aerosol can, and spray it on skin cancer and the cancer would disappear.

Hey, you should try it and let us know. If Homeless Bill gave the OK, you *know* you can't go wrong!, you better not try it. Regardless of what Homeless Bill says, you'll probably regret it.

And by the way, Crowley was *not* talking about sulfuric acid!

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