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Topic started on 3-5-2008 @ 05:47 AM by Credulity Kills


Hey all,

I'm not sure when I first came across ATS but I've lurked here for years. I used to get a real kick out of some of John Lear's (insane) theories and would occasionally pass them on to my coworkers for a laugh.

Why did my coworkers find it so funny? I worked for NASA for 9 years as a mission control specialist for the ISS (my specialty was the ISS guidance, navigation & control system). As somebody whose job it was to track the shuttle en route to the ISS, I found it very funny to read about his theories on secret space stations and the like. It seems that John is gone from ATS - this is a good thing.

So I'm hear to answer any questions that I can about the manned space program (my knowledge of unmanned stuff is fairly limited), aerospace engineering, etc. Your questions are welcome.

Also:

NASA landed on the moon several times
NASA is not hiding evidence of alien civilizations
The reptilian shape-shifter CT is the funniest thing I've read in years!

Cheers,
CK



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reply posted on 3-5-2008 @ 06:24 AM by jra


Welcome! It will definately be nice to have your knowledge and experiance around here. But be prepared to be called a "dis-info agent" every once and a while.



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reply posted on 3-5-2008 @ 06:36 AM by atlasastro



Originally posted by Credulity Kills

The reptilian shape-shifter CT is the funniest thing I've read in years!

Cheers,
CK


Thank god for that. I thought i was the only one. Great post. Its going to be interesting having you post here. Have you or any other of your Nasa co-workers ever had any weird UFO experiences that you would like to share.



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reply posted on 3-5-2008 @ 11:30 PM by Credulity Kills



Originally posted by jra
Welcome! It will definately be nice to have your knowledge and experiance around here. But be prepared to be called a "dis-info agent" every once and a while.

Many thanks! Yeah, I kinda figured I'd get called a dis-info agent from time to time. Believe me, NASA has better things to do than debunk crazy theories on a conspiracy-heavy website. This might come as an ego-blow to many conspiracy theorists, but they're completely off NASA's radar.

I, however, haven't anything better to do . But seriously, I actually quite like spreading the word. I'm a huge proponent of spaceflight and I do my best to right the public's (mis)perception.



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reply posted on 3-5-2008 @ 11:36 PM by Credulity Kills



Originally posted by atlasastro
Thank god for that. I thought i was the only one. Great post. Its going to be interesting having you post here. Have you or any other of your Nasa co-workers ever had any weird UFO experiences that you would like to share.

I can't say that I have, and I don't know anybody who has seen anything odd - this includes quite a few astronauts who are friends of mine.

For the record, I do think there is military aerospace technology that trumps anything that NASA (which is a civilian agency) has got. I can only speculate as to what that is, however.

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reply posted on 3-5-2008 @ 11:39 PM by enjoies05


Welcome to ATS.



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reply posted on 3-5-2008 @ 11:39 PM by Tuning Spork



Originally posted by Credulity Kills
So I'm hear to answer any questions
(emphasis mine)


I don't mean to disbelieve you, but why should ATS believe that an (apparently) illiterate teenager has ever worked for NASA?



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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 12:03 AM by LateApexer313


And so it begins!

Tuning Spork...I have a B.A. in English and STILL have to edit my posts a lot...

Anyway this is awesome if it's true, to have someone on here from NASA, welcome to ATS as a member instead of a lurker

I can only imagine a group of NASA workers on break, all peering at some of the posts on here...like the MARS posts and chuckling.

Perhaps you'd be willing to share your views with us on the many shuttle videos out there, specifically the "tether incident" which is infamous in these circles, as well as any of the others?

LOL editing out "an" and putting in "a" in front of B.A. in English

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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 12:07 AM by greeneyedleo


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Hello and welcome!

What kind of evidence can you provide us that you actually worked at NASA doing what you claim to do?

Sorry for *my* skepticism....but we have been down this {hoax} road more then once recently I am sure you can understand



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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 12:30 AM by Tuning Spork



Originally posted by LateApexer313
And so it begins!

Tuning Spork...I have a B.A. in English and STILL have to edit my posts a lot...



Me, too. I just couldn't resist.


Or could I.....?



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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 02:22 AM by Credulity Kills



Originally posted by Tuning Spork
I don't mean to disbelieve you, but why should ATS believe that an (apparently) illiterate teenager has ever worked for NASA?

I HATE when people screw up homonyms and I just did it myself. I blame exhaustion; I've slept a total of 8 hours in the last three nights

Stick around and you'll see that I know what I'm talking about.



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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 02:30 AM by Credulity Kills



Originally posted by LateApexer313
Anyway this is awesome if it's true, to have someone on here from NASA, welcome to ATS as a member instead of a lurker


Well thanks.


Originally posted by LateApexer313
Perhaps you'd be willing to share your views with us on the many shuttle videos out there, specifically the "tether incident" which is infamous in these circles, as well as any of the others?

Not sure. I suspect that it's some sort of video artifact rather than an actual UFO.



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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 02:37 AM by Optix


Welcome!
I would like to know, will you be able to answer any questions about Mars and what is going on there now?



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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 02:38 AM by Tuning Spork


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Believe me, I know all about performing on short sleep.

Give us a heads up when yer ready to, er, spill the beans.

Keep in mind, of course, that there are plenty of jaded members. And everything you say will be subject to their prying questions. And I will not exempt myself.

Brace yourself, CK. Here it comes...

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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 02:43 AM by internos


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So you are the only person in the world who believes so, since some believe them to be icy particles (including NASA)and some else think they are UFOs but it also seems that you don't know what LateApexer313 is talking about: video artifact? The Tether Incident?
Tether Incident NASA STS-75 UFO

YouTube Link




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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 02:45 AM by Credulity Kills



Originally posted by greeneyedleo
Sorry for *my* skepticism....but we have been down this {hoax} road more then once recently I am sure you can understand

Fair enough. I'm hoping that my wealth of knowledge on the ISS and (to a lesser extent) the shuttle will provide a preponderance of evidence that you'll find convincing.

What would you like to hear/see from me?



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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 02:49 AM by Credulity Kills



Originally posted by Optix
Welcome!
I would like to know, will you be able to answer any questions about Mars and what is going on there now?

I know more about the current Mars missions than your average bear, but I'm by no means an expert on anything the JPL does. NASA's manned and unmanned programs are kept pretty separate - there's remarkably little commonality between running manned and unmanned missions in space.



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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 02:57 AM by Credulity Kills



Originally posted by Tuning Spork
Give us a heads up when yer ready to, er, spill the beans.

Keep in mind, of course, that there are plenty of jaded members. And everything you say will be subject to their prying questions. And I will not exempt myself.

Brace yourself, CK. Here it comes...


Based on the post below yours you were right on!

I'm ready to spill the beans but there's not that much to spill save for a few humorous anecdotes! As part of NASA's mission control team I didn't do anything that was secret our out of the public domain. Secret clearance isn't even required to work in mission control (with the odd exception of one or two console positions that interfaced with DoD guys who track stuff in space).



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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 03:01 AM by Optix



Originally posted by Credulity Kills

Originally posted by Optix
Welcome!
I would like to know, will you be able to answer any questions about Mars and what is going on there now?

I know more about the current Mars missions than your average bear, but I'm by no means an expert on anything the JPL does. NASA's manned and unmanned programs are kept pretty separate - there's remarkably little commonality between running manned and unmanned missions in space.


Ah, the good ole government compartmentalization techniques, heh

I would like to know why the public can never get any totally color correct Hi definition photos of Mars. As some here think the sky is actually blue there. Is it?



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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 03:04 AM by internos



Originally posted by Credulity Kills

Based on the post below yours you were right on!


What's wrong with my post mate?
a mission specialist for the ISS who doesn't know the most famous UFO incident ever occurred during an ISS mission frankly makes me concern:
perhaps you did forget it, or you weren't aware at all of it?

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