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INTERVIEW-"Torture is terrorism", ex-Guantanamo man tells US

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posted on May, 6 2008 @ 09:56 PM
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It is that kind of xenophobia, hubris, and contempt that is driving this country into the dumpster.

Your values, or lack there of, are quite disturbing.

*Edit:

I'm sure Hitler had the same thought process as you about the Jews.

[edit on 6-5-2008 by Sublime620]




posted on May, 6 2008 @ 11:12 PM
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I think you missed the part where he was innocent. Held for 6 1/2 years without charges or trial and he did not commit any terrorist acts or any crimes. None. Now what were you thinking the US military would let him walk if he were a "terrorist". No just another innocent man held without charges.

This is one of the reasons our forefathers decided to revolt against the English Crown. The ability for a monarch to hold people without charges.

Can't you see how tempting it would be to round up political opponents without charges? Settle personal vendettas etc.

That is why our constitution and bill of rights were revolutionary documents, " ...all men are created equal..and are endowed with certain inalienable rights...".

Hinky your rights were protected before the Bush regime. Now with his "signing statements" the Decider or his appointed agents can hold you without charges. That is a crime!



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 12:33 AM
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Torture. Huh. What torture? Did you know those prisoners are gaining weight? They have stated that the most horrible torture done to them is to have their terrorist manual/ kiran not treated with the respect they think it deserves. The worst! I really think it is sad that our 'leaders' do not have the balls to take every dead terrorist, and bury them in a pigskin, in an unknown location. That would, in Muslim mind, forever prevent them from ever seeing any reward. So the attacks would immediately stop. You don't even have to actually do it. Just stage a video, showing what you say is dead terrorists and what you say is pigskin. It should be treated as a criminal religion, but once you do that for one, others are game. So it must remain inviolate.
No, torture is never good, it is never acceptible. It is also not being done by Americans, unless you change the meaning of words to fit a Communist/Democrat definition. But the Socialist/Republicans will eventually come out swinging after the Communists start to imprison and destroy the heros. And to think, they are actually on the same payroll...



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 02:14 AM
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The man was mistreated while in captivity, at least allegedly? However, he is still breathing and having a conversation with the reporter, isn't he? So it was torture, OK, but it can't be that harsh if he is still alive. I know there have been allegations of deaths of terrorist suspects will in custody of some intelligence agencies, but that has yet to be proven.

There are skeletons in the closet regarding fair treatment of detainees and it has become a slippery slope politically. However, most of the the captives are hardened insurgents and will only cooperate under extreme pressure. How extreme the pressure should be is debatable and is the talk of politicians in Washington. However, most of these men have been picked up on the battlefield and confined in a military facility which is appropriate and I have yet to hear of any deaths of detainees while in custody at Gitmo.

Although, I could be wrong, I just can't recall. In any war, sometimes innocent bystanders get caught up in the fray. However, I do believe every man should be given basic human rights and that means: three squares, exercise, a reasonable cell, hygiene, medical attention, and writing materials. Other than that , the rest is icing on the cake, and inappropriate. This is a war, an unpopular one for some, however; these detainees where picked up on the battlefield, in most cases. I know some will mention rendition but that is another can of worms. As for giving them Constitutional Rights, absolutely not, unless they are American citizens. I think military justice is quite adequate when dealing with the detainees legal status. Maybe they should stay out combat zones until peace is established. That is the best solution for these men.

[edit on 15-9-2009 by Jakes51]




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