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2008 Phoenix Lights: Hoaxer Hoaxing the Hoax?
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Lights Above Phoenix, April 21, 2008 Timeline
On Monday, April 21, 2008 4 lights appeared over Phoenix. Video and photos were taken. Air Traffic Controllers in the main tower at Sky Harbor International Airport visually identified them. Witnesses all over Phoenix confirmed the sighting. The FAA releases an initial statement reporting that the lights did not appear on radar and weren't a threat to any air traffic, so no action was taken. The FAA then issues a statement saying that they will not allow the Air Traffic Controllers to talk about what they saw. Witnesses report Air-force jets were scrambled at roughly the same time the lights appeared in the sky.
Tuesday April 22, 2008 the Arizona Republic newspaper reports that Phoenix resident Lino Mailo claimed his neighbor launched several helium balloons with flares on them [1]. Lilo says the balloons went up in the sky from his neighbor's yard around 8pm on Monday night. An "anonymous" confessor comes forward and says he launched 4 latex balloons tied with fishing line anchoring common roadside flares to each balloon, launching them 1 minute apart into the air in his backyard [2]. Lino Mailo backs this story up in many interviews.
April 26, 2008 - Bill Knell, UFO investigator, writes an Op Ed piece stating: "After hearing the hoax story, I contacted a friend who lives in Phoenix. He agreed to try and reach Mailo or his neighbor. Since the article came out on Tuesday, attempts to contact Lino Mailo have failed. He does not answer his door and his neighbor wasn't home when my friend stopped by on two occasions. In fact, people living two houses down from Mailo say that they know Lino's next door neighbor and he was not home on Monday night. They claim they were out in their own backyard that evening and would have seen balloons with flares being launched." [3]
Our Investigation Begins
A group of researchers, myself included, thinking that the alleged "anonymous" hoaxer's confession sounded highly suspicious and unbelievable, decided to investigate further after the above chain of events occurred. Just analyzing the theory that these lights were a flare, tied to a latex balloon, filled with helium, 4 of them total, poses two problems right away:
A. Mathematically, a latex balloon of the size the hoaxer claimed he used, would not be able to lift the flare off the ground [4], let alone be able to obtain the altitude seen by all the witnesses and in the video and pictures.
B. A flare tied to a latex balloon with fishing line would melt the fishing line before it ever got off the ground.
Meanwhile, we wondered, if this hoaxer's story was true, why in dry conditions like Phoenix was this man not charged with at least some sort of Fire Code violation or issued a ticket for this reckless prank? After all, he had admitted to the crime on broadcast television [5]. Several news articles stated that the police department, the FAA and fire department weren't going to investigate or charge the man due to the fact he hadn't broken any laws that they knew of [6].
I sent e-mails to the mayor of Phoenix, to the members of the Phoenix City Council that had e-mail addresses listed on the city site, and to the Phoenix Fire Marshall outlining the fire hazard represented by this alleged hoax, and asking why the alleged hoaxer was not being investigated for Fire Code and FAA violations. After all, if the alleged hoaxers actions were taken to the extreme, such an individual could conceivably have tied some sort of explosive device to these helium filled latex balloons, and floated them directly into a commercial airplane's airspace and exploded them, the result could well have been catastrophic. I also sent a copy of that same e-mail to the 3 major local news networks in Phoenix [7].
One councilwoman and the Assistant Fire Marshal did reply to my e-mails with the following statements:
From Councilwoman Maria Baier:
"Cherie,
I spoke with my contact over in the Police Dept. regarding the "Phoenix Lights" incident and Sgt. Dwyer said that yes the gentleman would be charged with something but at this point it is out of the Phoenix Police Dept.'s hands. The feds and the FAA are looking at what charges to bring against him. He did not have any further details. Please let me know if you have any further questions, thank you.
Sincerely,
Jessica Amend
District 3 Office Manager
Councilwoman Maria Baier
phone: (602) 495-0594
fax: (602) 534-4190
email: [email protected]
website: www.phoenix.gov"
(original e-mail available on request)"
And from Assistant Fire Marshal, Kevin Roche:
"Ms. :
Thank you for your message of May 5, 2008. I am sorry that it has taken so long for us to respond but your question generated a lot of discussion among our staff.
The fire code does not envision a situation where someone would attach a flare to a balloon and release it. This situation certainly presents hazards that we need to address. There is currently not a section of the fire code that prohibits this activity.
We have referred your question to our attorney to draft appropriate language to be added to the fire code.
Please let me know if I can provide you with any additional information.
Kevin Roche
Assistant Fire Marshal"
(original e-mail available on request)
So, according to the Councilwoman's inside Police source, despite the denial to the media that the FAA had no plans to investigate, the police knew differently, and indeed, the FAA was investigating, as were the Feds.
Preparation and Purchasing of the Materials for our Recreation of the Hoaxer's Story
Knowing ahead of time that mathematically the hoaxer's story was highly improbable, we recreated the alleged hoax at significant trouble and expense, and acquired photo and video documentation of the experiment. Our results conclude firmly that the hoaxer's story was completely false.
The researcher tasked with recreating the hoaxer's story did a search for companies in Arizona that sell latex balloons at 3ft (or 36 inches) in diameter, as the hoaxer claimed and as verified by the alleged eyewitness, his neighbor, Lino Mailo. Most retailers didn't sell latex balloons over 12 inches wide. (12 inches wide is the standard size) One retailer, found online, sold a latex balloon 3ft in diameter, so he bought one for our experiment. He bought the 36 inch wide balloon for $6.00, plus $24.00 for the helium to inflate it, at ‘Balloon World’ on Olympic in LA.
The experiment made use of the lightest weight Road Flare commercially available. The flare is made by Orion. It was purchased from Kragen Auto Parts. It cost $3.99, and it claims a 15 minute burn time. He weighed the flare on a postal scale, and it came out to exactly .8 pounds. This translates to about 12.8 ounces or 362.873896 grams.
This means using 12 inch diameter balloons, with a lift capacity of 14 grams a piece, it would take 25.9285714285714285714285714 (285714 repeats forever...) or about 26 Balloons to lift one flare. Using a single Latex Balloon, you would need a 3 ft diameter balloon or 36 inch diameter balloon. These are said to lift .9 lbs, while our flare only weighs .8 lbs. This also means that our fishing line must weigh less than .1 lbs or 45 grams (approx).
It also means that our balloon would be at just about its maximum lift capacity, meaning a slower ascent than an equal sized balloon with a lighter payload [8]. It takes 80 gallons of compressed Helium to make 11 Cubic Feet. We need approximately 14.1 cubic feet to achieve a lift of .9 lbs.
Experiment Recreated Exactly As Hoaxer Described Fails Completely
In short, the guy running our experiment had the 36 inch diameter latex balloon inflated to its maximum capacity. He then tied the flare to it with the fishing line. The flare could not be lifted by the balloon. He tried it both inside [see attached photos] and outside [see attached photos], and even took it to an alleyway where there was clear wind [see attached photos]. No lift. Still photos and video were taken of this experiment. Cited are links to the still photos and the video of this experiment.[9]
Conclusion
The anonymous alleged confessor seems to have been "hoaxing" the hoax, according to our findings. Something other then balloons with flares tied to them was seen over Phoenix. A Police insider confirms that the FAA and the Feds are investigating, according to a Phoenix councilwoman. New information has uncovered that the "witness" Lino Mailo is in the military, specifically the Navy, according to a search done on his old addresses over the years [10]. Millitary jets were scrambled according to many confirmed witnesses. Neighbors of Mailo's were outside the whole evening and saw no balloons tied to flares being launched, and indeed said the man who confessed to launching them wasn't even home that night. [11]. Our investigative group feels that all of these facts are overwhelming evidence that something travelled on April 21, 2008 over Phoenix that warrants another media investigation into these events.
Footnotes
[1] Lino Mailo's two part interview of what he saw his neighbor do that night.
(www.abovetopsecret.com...)
[2] The newscast of the anonymous alleged hoaxer.
(www.abovetopsecret.com...)
[3] Bill Knell's article (www.opednews.com... )
[4] Reference page containing information on how large a helium balloon has to be to lift weight.
(science.howstuffworks.com... )
[5] The newscast of the anonymous alleged hoaxer.
(www.abovetopsecret.com...)
[6] Article in the Arizona Republic with FAA quote that there was "nothing to look into."
( www.azcentral.com... )
Article in the Arizona Central with statement from the Phoenix Fire Department.
( www.azcentral.com... )
Article in the National Ledger concerning the lights and the fire hazard implications.
( www.nationalledger.com... )
[7] E-mail I sent to the Fire Department, the Phoenix City Council and Mayor. (Original available on request)
(www.abovetopsecret.com...)
[8] Helium amount calculated by using this site: ( businessservices.berkeley.edu... )
[9] Video of the balloon and flare experiment:
(www.abovetopsecret.com...)
[10] Lino Mailo's military information obtained from this site: ( benefits.military.com... )
[11] Bill Knell's article ( www.opednews.com... )
"Awesome job! May I reprint your article in my newsletter?
Bill Knell
www.ufoguy.com...
Originally posted by LateApexer313
We have already had our first response
"Awesome job! May I reprint your article in my newsletter?
Bill Knell
www.ufoguy.com...
Originally posted by WitnessFromAfar
Originally posted by snookhums
On the verge of proving that this may infact be another cover up yet people are still not that interested.
It seems you're right Snookhums. I'm going to post an Alert to let folks know we think this thread has been solved. For many at ATS, jumping into an already 6 page thread (not to mention reading through the threads that came before this one) can be a daunting task. And there really isn't a way to mark an existing thread (that I know of) that it's been solved.
I'll try to alert folks, and see if we can get some outside opinions on the past weekend's experiment
If nothing else, people should see the evidence in this case, so that they have the data available in case this method of alleged hoaxing is brought forth as an excuse again.
-WFA
Originally posted by Frank Warren
Moreover the hoaxer said his flares weighed "178" grams; additionally, in the 2 videos I watched of him, he never said how big his balloons were, (although the reporter injected a size). He did indicate that "he filled them" which would mean he could add as much helium as necessary or until they popped).
All in all, I'm sorry to say the experiment is flawed, as is the result.
Cheers,
Frank
Excuse me for coming to the party late, and I apologize if this has already been brought up; however, if you'll notice your balloon is up against a "cinder block wall," which measure 8" X 8" X 16"; in the picture it doesn't encompass "2" blocks; I' going to guess that that the balloon is about 29" in diameter, substantially smaller then 36," and not enough helium to lift the flare in this experiment.
Moreover the hoaxer said his flares weighed "178" grams; additionally, in the 2 videos I watched of him, he never said how big his balloons were, (although the reporter injected a size). He did indicate that "he filled them" which would mean he could add as much helium as necessary or until they popped).
Hi Cherie, Et Al,
I for one certainly appreciate your enthusiasm with this case; however, the "alleged perp" said he weighed "his flares" and they were 178 grams each; moreover, "he" never said "how big the balloons were" (the reporter said 3' ft) although he did say, that "he filled them up pretty good" indicating that he had the equipment himself opposed to going out and buying already filled balloons." (meaning he could add as much helium as desired before the balloon popped).
All that said, any experiment to prove or disprove whether a helium filled balloon could lift a flare as "he stated" needs to be done "as he stated." If you look at the picture you provided the balloon used for the experiment is directly in front of a "cinder block wall"; cinder blocks are 16" long; as you can see the balloon doesn't even encompass "2" blocks; looking at the picture I would guestimate that the balloon is about 29" in diameter, not 36" as suggested--so the helium is/was substantially underestimated, and there wasn't enough to provide lift for the weight of "that flare."
In the end your experiment was/is "flawed" on it's face. Even if you get the weight right, the "size of the balloon, i.e., the amount of helium provided for lift is still an unknown factor; although, a 3' diameter balloon filled with helium (14.1 cubic ft) has a lifting capacity of .9 lbs; 178 grams = 0.392422827 lbs, more then enough to lift that weight.
Finally, I can assure you that the physics involved in regards to the amount of helium for lifting measured mass isn't going to change, if another experiment is desired, might I suggest using a small block of wood for the weight; this way it could be cut down to size or more specifically the weight of 178 grams.
Cheers,
Frank
~Knowledge is Power~
Originally posted by snookhums
You fail to remember that if indeed he did state 178 grams for the flare that doesn't allow enough burn time. The neighbor Lino stated he watched the flares for 30 minutes, others stated for at least 15 minutes. The flare that was tested was a 15 minute flare which weighed almost twice the amount. So if his neighbor stated 30 minute burn times then this so called hoax still doesn't add up.