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DC Madam commits suicide in Tarpon Springs [Madam List pg 2]

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posted on May, 1 2008 @ 01:46 PM
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OK, there are 3 likely scenarios here...

Scenario 1: She actually did kill herself out of sheer desperation. I'm sure most who commit suicide have said adamantly at least once "No way I'd ever kill myself!" Maybe she was afraid they'd cuff her and stuff her immediately following sentencing and figured she'd have to strike now while she still had the chance? Besides which, think about it, whores & porn stars do have a ridiculously high rate of suicide. It's like they're happy on the outside but one day wake up, realize they're basically a piece of meat, and bye-bye world.

Scenario 2: She was killed to silence her and keep whatever names and information she has quiet. I consider this a very likely scenario, actually. The speculation over Cheney being on her list I do not agree with. I think it would be more likely someone who had a lot more to lose if his name was exposed, and let's face it... at this point in his life Cheney really doesn't have that much to lose. It's not like Lynn wouldn't simply wait it out a couple years until he keeled over from his 7th heart attack. My guess would be someone far younger and on a more upward path in his political career, kinda like an Elliot Spitzer type.

Scenario 3: She committed suicide, but planned to do this all along and vehemently spoke against the idea while planting seeds of "If I turn up dead, I was murdered by government interests." This would be the most conspiratorial of the 3 scenarios, but I wouldn't rule it out.




posted on May, 1 2008 @ 01:53 PM
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How did she "commit suicide"?

Three shots to the back of the head?


Or did they at least try to make it look real?



posted on May, 1 2008 @ 01:58 PM
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This stinks to high heaven. It's just too convenient that she killed herself, especially since her sentence had not been handed down yet.

I hope that this gets the attention of some of the high profile investigators out there. I hate to see it turn into a media circus, but this desrves more than the usual attention.



posted on May, 1 2008 @ 03:03 PM
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Ya know, I wonder if her saying the following sealed her fate.

Palfrey told ABC last year when she released phone records that revealed some of her clients. "Not for a second. I'll bring every last one of them in if necessary."

Than we have that other offing of professor brandy bitton aka Alexis Angel just before her trial. She also was found hung in her home. She has two Bachelor's of Science degrees, one in biology and the other in sociology. She also holds a Ph.D. from an elite university. Thats is the credentials of a serious woman not inclined to hanging herself.

Both ladies were involved in the scandal and offed the same way.

Interesting........................



posted on May, 1 2008 @ 03:35 PM
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Scenerio 4: She was murdered by an unnamed third party to force the hand of her proxy, assuming she set up contingencies in the event of her untimely suicide. Someone who would benefit from the exposure of the people on her lists.



posted on May, 1 2008 @ 03:42 PM
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I'm really surprised that this story isn't on the front page here at ATS. This is probably the most suspicious high profile alleged suicide in a long time. She was on Larry King twice.

They were living in a very modest home and she doesn't sell her story for money to at least leave to her mom when she went to jail. No instead she hangs herself in a shed most definitely to be discovered by her mom.

This is a massive conspiracy that engulfs the whole system of them using prostitution to ensnare government people so they can "persuade officials" to do their bidding. This poor woman played fire by running one of these types of agencies.

Certainly the elite use the service for pleasure and not just for blackmail but either way the names of the clients can't get out unless it is arranged that they do (see elliot spitzer). Palfrey was endangering too many reputations and they killed her.

Its so in our face, you have to hand it to the nwo they know they can get away with anything.



posted on May, 1 2008 @ 04:21 PM
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Let the spin begin.

www.time.com...


Deborah Jeane Palfrey, known as the "D.C. Madam," once implied that suicide was cowardice but, in the end, she seems to have chosen that same path herself. "She wasn't going to jail, she told me that very clearly. She told me she would commit suicide," author Dan Moldea told TIME soon after news broke of her body being found in Tarpon Springs, Florida, an apparent suicide



posted on May, 1 2008 @ 05:12 PM
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senator vitter, (r) from louisiana bought her girls. he was the one who enjoyed being diapered by these ladies. he did not take the stand, even though his name was in her book.



posted on May, 1 2008 @ 05:15 PM
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I'm really surprised that this story isn't on the front page here at ATS. This is probably the most suspicious high profile alleged suicide in a long time.


I have seen more threads on this topic today then topics about aliens and ufos


I think it is being VERY covered here



posted on May, 1 2008 @ 05:18 PM
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Her death is certainly suspicious however if someone doesn't release here list I may start to doubt just how important it really was. She has had a loooooong time to release names but she didn't. So maybe she was just waiting for the best possible time where she could cut a deal. Or maybe she was bluffing and just hoping the government would want to avoid a possible scandal and help her out. It's just so frustrating when you here people make claims that they have super important info but refuse to share for some reason, I've seen that allot in many different areas of conspiracy.



posted on May, 1 2008 @ 05:31 PM
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I'm sure any important evidence, like client lists, accounting records, schedules, and such (all of which can be used to determine who used her services) were in the hands of law enforcement officials already due to ehr trial being over. But she probably knew all the dirty fetishes the guys had, which would do much more damage to someone's reputation than just knowledge that they paid for sex.

But there's alot of powerful people on that list. Only one of them needed to have the guts to do it to make it happen.



posted on May, 1 2008 @ 05:34 PM
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Well if we're going for what the media will belittle and dismiss as "the conspiracy angle," I would have to opt for the notion that having a detailed account of all your clientèle would be a relatively 'standard' practice. So I'm surmising that such a list is very likely to have existed.

If you can accept that axiom, such a list 'could' possibly be one's greatest guarantee of 'protection' from simply being railroaded into jail. She would have kept it. She would have kept it very well.

I can't imagine being bone-headed enough to think that 'offing' her would be a good idea. Let her keep her little secrets, help her out of trouble with the 'legal' people (it's done ALL the time with serious criminals that are 'in favor'). Be done with it.

I opt for the possibility that she was killed to actually precipitate disclosure. Not by the naughty boys, but by someone who stands to gain from the shift in attention (Wag the dog anyone?)

I'm not in love with that theory, but it is a possibility.



posted on May, 1 2008 @ 06:07 PM
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Well I know Tarpon Police and they have some serious bad attitudes and are experts in handing out speeding tickets. They are very sketchy and will lock you up faster than you can blink if you even look at them wrong. They may get to the bottom of this just for that reason or maybe not. I'm sure the feds will be all over this one though.



posted on May, 1 2008 @ 06:32 PM
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During several recent appearances on The Alex Jones Show, Palfrey also said that she was at risk of being killed and that authorities would make it look like suicide. She made it clear that she was not suicidal and if she was found dead it would be murder.

Palfrey had threatened to release the names of well-known clients of her upscale call girl ring in the nation's capitol, and had indicated that Dick Cheney may be one of them.




UPDATE: In an almost uncanny development, as soon as this article started to go viral on the Internet, Time Magazine released a story claiming that Palfrey told author Dan Moldea that she would rather commit suicide than go to jail.


PrisonPlanet

(sarcasm/) Nothing fishy here. Move along now people (/sarcasm)

[edit on 1-5-2008 by AlienS]



posted on May, 1 2008 @ 06:33 PM
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Oh, come, come, now...

Surely, it's just another remarkably convenient, timely, coincidence.
You know, the kind that seem to befall the Criminals in D.C. just in the nick of time!

Nothing to worry about. Nothing to see here. Everybody move along before investigating a suspicious death becomes an "act of terrorism".

AlienS, beat me to that one!






[edit on 1-5-2008 by FewWorldOrder]



posted on May, 1 2008 @ 06:54 PM
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sounds very much like that reporter who worked for the san jose mercury. the one who blew open the cia selling crack to inner city people? he hung himself in sacramento a few years ago as well. what was his name? any one?



posted on May, 1 2008 @ 07:25 PM
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Or the guy that wrote "Fortunate Son" the expose' Of GW. J. H. Hatfield


en.wikipedia.org...(Hatfield)



posted on May, 1 2008 @ 07:30 PM
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Thought this one over for a little while, and came to the conclusion. Since no one else had already provided the "list", and or was unable to find it. I may as well dig out the stash I had come across.

This is what was released, way before her death, and recently after the DC Madam incident came to light. The material is extensive and self explanitory, any and all qualified interested party/ies may u2u me for a possable Research team based on this case.

The following information is exactly as I recieved it, no action on my part was conducted to alter or modify the content below:



www.deborahjeanepalfrey.com.nyud.net:8090...

Home

Public Statements

Legal
Pleadings

Photo
Gallery

Email
Jeane


Why the Records are Being Publically Released


I have reason to believe the disk - containing a full set of the telephone records for the 13 year operational history of “Pamela Martin & Associates” - already has been pirated. Despite our very best intentions to maintain control of the information, our efforts seemingly have been for naught. I am concerned about manipulation of the database with false and misleading information. Even though such falsifications can be refuted in time by comparing an altered copy with the original, my attorney, Mr. Sibley and I fear that in the intervening time period, considerable damage can and will be done to the reputations of individual and entities with no connection to the business. Additionally, the overall validity of the records’ contents will be diminished when one false accusation after another begins to manifest. Therefore, to thwart any possible distorted version and to ensure the integrity of the information, the records – in their entirety -- are available for downloading.

Deciphering this voluminous amount of data – some of which is well over a decade old will not be an easy task. Frankly, this likely is understating matters. It will take a small army of people skilled in computer and phone technology, investigation as well as factual knowledge regarding the significance OR non-significance of identified persons. No one individual or entity will be able to connect all of the dots. The overall endeavor easily could take many months, if not years to research and report conscientiously.

Jeane Palfrey


"Official" Pamela Martin & Associates
Telephone Records


The Records are grouped by year and compressed for speedier transition using PKWare. If your computer does not have a "pkunzip.exe" file to open these records, then you need to download a free version from PKWare.

1 ATT January 20 2002 - December 20 2002

2 ATT January 21 2001 - December 20 2001

3 ATT January 22 2001 - December 27 2001

4 ATT March 20 2003 - October 20 2003

5 ATT November 20 2003 - November 19 2004

6 ATT October 19 1999 - October 21 2000

7 Cingular August 24 2005 - December 1 2005

8 Cingular December 19 2004 - September 2005

9 Sprint August 1994 - December 27 1994

10 Sprint January 22 1999 - December 22 1999

11 Sprint January 22 2000 - December 22 2000

12 Sprint January 22 2002 - December 22 2002

13 Sprint January 22 2003 - December 22 2003

14 Sprint January 22 2004 - December 22 2004

15 Sprint January 22 2005 - December 22 2005

16 Sprint January 22 2006 - August 22 2006

17 Sprint January 27 1995 - July 27 1995

18 Sprint January 27 1995 - July 27 1995 II

19 Sprint January 27 1996 - December 27 1996

20 Sprint January 27 1998 - December 22 1998

Any comments, questions or concerns can be addressed to Montgomery Sibley
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14 July 2007. A writes:

Running a few numbers through search engines really give you a good feel for this individual. Recurring themes come up: Media (Print, TV), Chambers of Commerce, Jewelry stores, import/export activities, consignment stores, Wine, and Legal services.
Upon review of a sample of these numbers, I think that the defendant will find that it was fairly stupid to release these phone records. If you were to do link analysis of these calls, you may find a few government suckers caught with their pants down (literally), but you can start to see a systematic plan to launder funds using precious metals and collectables, trends of alcohol abuse, as well as a constant fight with the legal system due to her shady line of business. On a more personal side, this seems to be a person very interested in their looks due to the amount to calls to plastic surgeons and clinics for fat and wrinkle reduction.

I find these calls very interesting due to the fact that JETRO is front for the Japanese Government's intelligence activities in the United States.

Japan External Trade Organization (JETRO) (415) 392-1333

Consulate-General of Japan in San Francisco, 50 Fremont Street, Suite 2200 San Francisco, California 94105 (415)777-3533

14 July 2007

Original DC Madam telephone numbers in TIFF format:

www.deborahjeanepalfrey.com.nyud.net:8090...



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A sends:

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posted on May, 1 2008 @ 08:04 PM
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There are so many phone numbers. And like most of us entered into the system, we are but numbers. And in her case she (and like so many of her hard working comrades) is a piece of meat to those pleasure-seeking ‘officials’. For whatever 'knowledge' was meant to be kept private, I believe she was murdered as a result of her appearance(s) in public, too. Bottom-line: The price is always one’s life for any ‘whistleblower’, I’m afraid.




posted on May, 1 2008 @ 08:05 PM
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There sure are a lot of coincidences our there these days under this government it is almost Vladimir Putinesck...

Bush an oil man comes into office and oil skyrockets...coincidence?

Madam about ready to drop a bomb as far as names commits suicide..coincidence?

Right after 9/11 The CFR comes out and says its a good time to implement the NWO...coincidence?

Obama gets all sorts of media attention and rockstar status before even entering the race but then later find out he is related to Cheney coincidence?

Ron Paul wants to change our corrupt government as we know it and truly fix a lot of the issues that face our nation but cant get one ounce of msm attention...coincidence?

All of the owners of the MSM are all member in one way or another to the CFR...coincidence?

I could go on and on if there is a few of these coincidences that people want to add please do but mannnnn there sure are a lot of these "coincidences"



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