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The very real conspiracy against Freemasonry

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posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:14 AM
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Shriners are not the same as freemasons. Yes, they happen to be freemasons, but this is the same as saying:

All Jusuits are Christians. The Jusuits once misappropriated funds. Therefore, Christianity is an institution which misappropriates funds.

And I am certain that if they did misapproprate funds, the individuals concerned would immediately have been expelled from Freemasonry.


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posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:20 AM
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Shriners are not the same as freemasons. Yes, they happen to be freemasons, but this is the same as saying:

All Jusuits are Christians. The Jusuits once misappropriated funds. Therefore, Christianity is an institution which misappropriates funds.


That is inncorrect. All Jusuits are Catholics; they must first be to become Jusuit. Additionally, the entire Catholic Church's reputation has been marred from a few isolated cases of child molestation, as it should.



And I am certain that if they did do what is claimed, they would immediately have been expelled from Freemasonry.


Yes, I agree. Additionally, they should be arrested.

Thank you,

Distracto



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:27 AM
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That is inncorrect. All Jusuits are Catholics;


And all Catholics are Christians!

Thus all Christians are child molesters?

I rest my case...

[edit on 7/5/2008 by Saurus]



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:31 AM
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And all Catholics are Christians!


That is also debatable; certianly your not suggesting the Catholics who molest boys are following the ways of Christ.

Therefore, your argument is illogical.

Thank you,

Distracto



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:32 AM
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Certainly you're not suggesting that those Shriners who misappropriate funds are following the ways of Freemasonry?


[edit on 7/5/2008 by Saurus]



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:35 AM
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Certainly you're not suggesting that those Shriners are following the ways of Freemasonry?


This is not for me to decide, as I am not a Freemason.

Thank you,

Distracto



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:39 AM
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If its true that I am spreading lies and you are spreading "the truth", why did you refuse to enter a formal debate under the scrutiny of judges...who may not even be impartial but biased toward conspiracy-theory?

The offer still stands...from MasonicLight...or, if you prefer, I´ll debate you too.



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:39 AM
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This is not for me to decide, as I am not a Freemason.


Then how can you possibly blame Freemasonry for the alleged acts of some Shriners?

[edit on 7/5/2008 by Saurus]



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:41 AM
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If its true that I am spreading lies and you are spreading "the truth", why did you refuse to enter a formal debate under the scrutiny of judges...who may not even be impartial but biased toward conspiracy-theory?

The offer still stands...from MasonicLight...or, if you prefer, I´ll debate you too.


I believe you are projecting as well; I have never stated you are a liar.

Thank you,

Distracto



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:43 AM
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Then how can you possibly blame Freemasonry for the alleged acts of some Shriners?


Please Re-read my posts.

Thank you,

Distracto



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:49 AM
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But we decided that your logic was flawed, since you cannot hold Freemasonry responsible for the alleged acts of some Shriners.

Re-reading your posts hasn't changed this at all...



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:52 AM
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But we decided that your logic was flawed, since you cannot hold Freemasonry responsible for the alleged acts of some Shriners.


Who does "we" consist of?

Thank You,

Distracto



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:54 AM
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Both of us, I assumed, since you did not refute the fact successfully.

If you disagree, please give reasons why Freemasonry should be held accountable for the alleged actions of some Shriners (who happen to all be Freemasons), whereas Christians should not be held accountable for the acts of some Catholics (who happen to all be Christians.)


[edit on 7/5/2008 by Saurus]



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:56 AM
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Both of us, I assumed, since you did not refute the fact successfully.


You feel as if you can speak for me? That is in itself illogical.

Thank you,

Distracto



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 05:04 AM
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If you disagree, please give reasons why Freemasonry should be held accountable for the alleged actions of some Shriners (who happen to all be Freemasons), whereas Christians should not be held accountable for the alleged acts of Catholics (who happen to all be Christians.)


You consider all Catholics Christian when not all Christians are Catholic, yet condem me for considering Shriners Freemason?

Shall I proceed?

Thank you,

Distracto



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 05:07 AM
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Just as not all Christians are Catholic, not all Masons are Shriners.



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 05:10 AM
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Just as not all Christians are Catholic, not all Masons are Shriners.


Not all Masons are shriners, but indeed all Shriners are Masons. This is fact.

On the other hand, many Christians have never set foot in a Catholic church. Therefore, being Christian is not a prerequisite to being Catholic or vice-versa.

However, being a Freemason is a prerequiste to becoming a Shriner.

Shall I proceed?

Thank you,

Distraco



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 05:13 AM
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Originally posted by Distracto

I believe you are projecting as well; I have never stated you are a liar.



I was addressing this to freight tomsen.



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 05:15 AM
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I was addressing this to freight tomsen.


Understood.



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 05:40 AM
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On the other hand, many Christians have never set foot in a Catholic church.


Similarly, many Masons have never set foot in a Shriner temple.



Therefore, being Christian is not a prerequisite to being Catholic or vice-versa.


This conclusion is absurd.



However, being a Freemason is a prerequiste to becoming a Shriner.


Yes. Similarly one must be a Christian in order to be confirmed as a Catholic.



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