reply to post by Neo Christian Mystic
The Peace of God to all that belong the light,
The ones that usually try to justified the creation of the modern state of Israel as the accomplishing of bible prophecies use to mention parts of the
prophecies of Isaiah and Jeremiah that were wrote before the invasion of Nabucodonosor to Palestine and were the principal source of inspiration of
the jews during the captivity in Babilon.
Those prophecies were indeed acomplished when the jews returned to the Holy Land, during the Persian empire, and rebuild the city of Jerusalem and
finally, during the realm of Herodes the Great the temple was completly reconstructed.
That was the accomplishing of those prophecies and not in any other time in the future.
About the Christian times and what happend with the Jews it is important to mention the following aspects:
- the Jews were never expused by the lands for the arabs, that situation happened in the 70 A.D and were the Romans the ones that destroyed Jerusalem,
fire the temple and spread the citizens of that City all arround the empire as slaves in punish of their rebelion against the Cesar.
- The Palestinians are not Arabs, as the zionist fundamentalists like to claim, they primarly descendents of a mixture of peoples:
Canaits, hitites, Philistines, but also of descendents of Isaac through Esau & Lot, the amonites and edomites, and even desdendents of Jacob through
the so called Lost tribes of Israel, that of course are only lost for the jews and their priests.
The Lost tribes of Israel were the ones that remain in the Holy land during the exile in Babilon, the ones that were subdits of the Kingdom of
Samaria, but also desdendents of the thousands of members of the primitive Christianity, the ones that believed in Jesus Christ and refuse to take
part on the judge against him.
It is very common among the Jews to decret civil death to anybody that abandon their religion so that is the reason for which they still claim that
there were 10 tribes lost that nobody nows where are, that is myth, the lost tribes are present now in the Palestinian People!!!.
A proof of this situation occured when the scientists that are in Israel working in the human Genoma project found by sampling either israelians
and palestinians that they have exactly the same genetic information, that they are not two different ethnicties but only one!!!
About prophecies that talk about the current status of the Jews and the Palestinians the only one that is really applicable for our time was given by
About the incomming destruction of Jerusalem
Verify I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation:
O Jerusalem , Jerusalem , though that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how ofther would I have gathereth thy children
together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
About the destruction of the temple that was already reconstructed by that time:
And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
And Jesus said unto them. See ye not all these things? verify I said unto you, they shall not be left here one stone upon another, they shall not
be thrown down.
About total lose of all the Jews' rights over the Holy land:
But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying They will reverence my son.
But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir: come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard , and slew him.
when the lord therefpre of the vineyard cometh, what will bhe do unto those husbandmen?
They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the
fruits in their seasons.
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The Stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is
the Lord's doing, and it is marvelleous in our eyes?
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
And whoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall , it will grind him to powder.
The deportation of the Jews and their priests the levits by the Roman Empire as a slaves :
St. Luke 23: 28-30
Daughters of Jerusalem , weep not for me, but weep for your selves, and for your children.
For, Behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are teh barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which neer gave
Then shall they begin to say o the mountains fall on us: and to the hills, Cover us.
For if they do these thinks in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?
Hence it is quite right the claim that many members have supported in this thread that the Creation of the Modern state of Israel is not part of the
God's will but the will of men.
This is the result of the plan of the international zionist movement that with all their economic power and the the debt that England, in
particular the Chruchill administration, had with them at the end of WWII forced this artifitial decission, of course helped by Harry S Truman that
was a Jew converted to Protestant
Unfortunately that plan is still running with all the supposed jews that are being transported through air to Israel from all around the world only to
increase the number of potential soldiers in the wars against the Palestinians and Arabs, thats the job of The International Fellowship of
Christians and Jews,
that have an advertising of an hour or so in the American TV every night requesting economic support for it.
To know more about this international Conspiracy against the world peace pls visit my thread at:
Supernova 2007: a Great Beam of Hope in the human future will visit us coming from far a way
The Angel of lightness
[edit on 6/13/2008 by The angel of light]