Pet Spider Kills its owner, what a way to go!, page 2
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reply posted on 23-8-2007 @ 08:31 PM by mythLUVER
reply to post by Shoktek



How about being eaten by an anaconda.They squeeze you uintill your bones break, leaving you paralyzed. Then they swallow you whole so that you slowly suffocate in there stomaches.PAINFUL


reply posted on 26-8-2007 @ 04:55 PM by qonone
Wow really wow ,what a way to die .coming out of the nose..there they should be looking for some sacs ..esp of arachnids.

I have been bitten by spiders ,enough to count on my hands in 35 yrs of life,number 3 on my list was a Brown Widow that bit me in 2005 on my lower arm ..the pain of the bite was not that bad but the side-affects was really bad/crappy & the Brown only carries quarter the strength of poison than the Black Widow and they usually don't even inject all poison in to you as the Black Widow would.

Why oh why did he not run & seek medical attention? ..he would have been alive ..all i can think of is he really loved his creatures so much and knew he would lose them and face some fines/legal issues ..or a death wish,or heart problem ..i cannot see anyone when the neurotoxic poison kicks in sitting it out ..i just can't.

Well it's a wow for me.

Originally posted by dangermouse
I was under the impression that Black Widow venom was usually NOT fatal to humans unless the person is allergic to it, excluding of course small children and the elderly. If I remember correctly, the toxin causes intense muscular contraction for several days, very painful.


Hi DM ,actually the widow carries a neurotoxic poison which any human have no need to be allergic to ..all you explained as symptoms happens and much more ..the worst is the struggling to breathe ,chest pain,back pain..then convulsions which if no medical attention is seeked would kill you in an hour or so.

I have read about people who have survived Black Widow or so bites from snakes who carries the neurotoxic venom without medical help..but that is all up to if the spider only gave the person a soft "punch" and not full on ..Black Widows are full on ladies when they bite .they are not aggressive but when they attack you will be heading for a full on..suppose even they have their bad days.

As it comes to allergies ..we write of numerous spiders as harmless ,each and every real spider have fangs and a venom sack and people can react differently on various types of bites.Take a bee sting ..some use them as pain relievers and others only need one sting to die.

Allergic reactions differ in individuals so better to know what is "real spiders" (Real Spiders are those who can bite & have venom glands) ,so all numerous insects from ants to the ugly, even if claimed to be harmless and do allergy tests ..that is how i learned...there is a person for every poison out there.

Eg: Black Widow /Sac Spider /Violin (Brown Recluse) / All Tarantulas are "real Spiders"
Daddy Longlegs is not ..no fangs ,no venom glands..


[edit on 8/26/2007 by qonone]


reply posted on 26-8-2007 @ 06:05 PM by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by jezebel



Reptiles and insects have pretty slow metabolisms. He was going to be a snack for the next six months or so...


reply posted on 2-9-2007 @ 01:05 PM by manzoor
reply to post by Shoktek



as scary and sick it is its his fault how about being eaten alive by a shark that must be worse way to die or eaten by a squid ripped to pieces yuck


reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 07:47 PM by Raist
I call this story bunk on the fact that many people each year are bitten by widows. I recall a Venom ER episode with a young girl bitten twice on her abdomen by a widow. She suffered in pain and fever for hours before getting attention medically. Due to her age and size they feared that helping her might actually kill her, she lived.

Here are some more Venom ER situations with widows and kids who also live.
www.tv.com... ry.html?tag=ep_list;ep_title;6

www.tv.com... mmary.html?tag=ep_list;ep_title;10


Also here is a little more widow information so that we may expand our knowledge and not continue with folklore.



Prior to antivenom
availability, black widow spiders killed approximately 5% of human
bite victims1. Now, reports indicate human mortality rates to be less
than 1% from black widow spider bites. Deaths from black widow
bites among healthy adults are relatively rare in terms of the number
of bites per thousand people. Only 63 deaths were reported in the US
between 1950 and 19892.


health.state.ga.us...


Though I will admit that having such animals running around your home freely is stupid, I will say that owning a venomous animal in its self is not. Venomous creatures are very interesting to keep and study as long as caution is maintained throughout the time you keep them. In other words don’t go around trying to pet or cuddle with a venomous creature or you will most likely be bitten.

The article also mentioned poisonous frogs; this seems to be a greater concern as far as death goes. I think of the poison arrow frogs when I hear about this in this case he only need touch one and he would be at serious risk of death. These things are far more deadly than a widow ever would be.

Widow bites are normally not deadly though. Either this was not a black widow that bite him (perhaps it was the Red Back spider which is related) or he was already ill or very out of shape or old. Maybe he had heart disease or some other medical condition.




What are the symptoms of a bite?
A black widow spider bite gives the appearance of a target, with a pale area surrounded by a red ring. Severe muscle pain and cramps may develop in the first two hours. Severe cramps are usually first felt in the back, shoulders, abdomen and thighs. Other symptoms include weakness, sweating, headache, anxiety, itching, nausea, vomiting, difficult breathing and increased blood pressure. Young children, the elderly and those with high blood pressure are at highest risk of developing symptoms from a black widow spider bite.


www.calpoison.org...



Mortality/Morbidity: More than 13,000 spider bites were reported to the American Association of Poison Control Centers in 1997, with no deaths; more than 1,300 of the bites were described as moderate or severe. The reported death rate from documented bites occurs in less than 1% of reported cases. Young children appear to be at highest risk for a lethal bite.


www.emedicine.com...

Again there are much greater dangers than a widow bite. You risk death much more by stepping outside of you home than by the bite of a widow.

Raist
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