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Originally posted by HeadFirstForHalos
You all say that digging things up is just politics, yet if we dig one little thing up on your precious little messiah Ron Paul you all freak out too.
A LOT of people here follow Ron Paul in a manner that could be called similar to a cult or religious following.
You too have the glazed over eyes and will do whatever the man tells you.
All I've heard that Ron Paul would do is 'bring back the constitution'. So technically he would be changing things wouldn't he?
So really now, you're just as bad as us. You just don't want to hear it.
you haven't cited a source for anything in the entire thread. Even opinions need to have some grounding in facts. Don't flatter yourself by calling what you do debating.
Originally posted by bigbert81
reply to post by LLoyd45
Because, this is an opinionated debate, not one where I can just cite sources.
IMO, all this stuff I mentioned is BS compared to what we've seen from Clinton and McCain.
I can't cite a source on my opinion, so I don't know why you can't seem to understand this.
I doubt very seriously if you could speak above anybody's head, including a 6 year old's. That would require some intelligence on your part.
Originally posted by bigbert81
Ok, dude, go do some friggin' research. Like I said, this is a grown-up debate, so don't act like you're the cool kid coming in here who can't bother to read the thread.
I'm sorry if I talk above your head because I know what I'm talking about, just like some other people here. If you can't keep up, perhaps you need to do some reading before chiming in such a thread as this.
I feel like I'm trying to teach Algebra to a 6 year old. Do some research, and then you might have an idea what we're talking about.
If it depended on the issues, Hillary would win, and that is why she has dominated in the debates. Her policies are more realistic. Her health care plan includes aid for those who need it, and that would mean people who work for a living, but do not make much money, and would be getting the aid they deserve. Obama's plan leaves out struggling middle class families.
The handshake heard round the world took place in April, 2004, at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Chicago between Barack Obama and a mysterious London billionaire named Nadhmi Auchi.What does the handshake mean? It places Mr. Obama, then a state senator from the 13th District who had just won his party's nomination to run for the U.S. Senate in the fall, in the same critical meeting between Mr. Auchi and his Chicago-based partner, Antoin "Tony" Rezko, along with Mr. Rezko's patron, Governor Rod Blagojevich, as well Mr. Obama's mentor in the Illinois State senate, Emile Jones, Jr. It places Mr. Obama in association with Mr. Auchi, who is now, because of three particular wire transfers of cash, one in 2005 and another two in 2007, the latter two most suspicious to the prosecutors, a weighty figure in the trial about to begin into the felonious graft around Governor Rod Blagojevich these last years.In sum, Mr. Obama shook hands with a shadowy billionaire who is suspect of making it possible for Mr. Rezko to perform duties that won him the title of "fixer," by the Chicago media. Mr. Auchi's cash in Mr. Rezko's hands may have fixed Mr. Obama's estate in 2005. Mr. Auchi's cash in Mr Rezko's hands may have built the suspect's defense case or sustained it in 2007, a case to refute the government's sweeping charges, brought by U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald of the North District of Illinois, of graft in high places in Illinois politics. And Mr. Auchi's cash in Mr. Rezko's hands could have led, in the U.S. court's opinion as of January 28, 2008, to Mr. Rezko fixing his problem by flight from prosecution to Middle Eastern countries without extradition treaties with the United States.
If you were intelligent enough to warrant a debate, I would gladly accomodate you. It's obvious you're either to lazy, or too biased to do a little research regarding your own candidate. I and many others have posted numerous links to facts, not just opinions, that you refuse to address.
Originally posted by bigbert81
Get over it, try to accept the fact that you just don't understand the point, and move on.
You can come back here and try to throw out more stupid insults to try and win this fight you continue to elongate.
I'm done with this back and forth elementary school BS that you keep bringing by here.
Obama's political coming-out party in the mid-1990s was hosted by Ayers and Dohrn? What about the panel discussions in which Ayers and Obama both took part—that were organized by Michelle Obama? Tenuous? I suppose the goodbye party for prominent Israel basher and Arafat apologist Rashid Khalidi, attended by Obama, Ayers and Dohrn, is also unworthy of discussion. That Khalidi himself hosted a fundraiser for Obama's first Congressional campaign must be completely irrelevant, too.
A special tribute came from Khalidi's friend and frequent dinner companion, the young state Sen. Barack Obama. Speaking to the crowd, Obama reminisced about meals prepared by Khalidi's wife, Mona, and conversations that had challenged his thinking.Today, five years later, Obama is a U.S. senator from Illinois who expresses a firmly pro-Israel view of Middle East politics, pleasing many of the Jewish leaders and advocates for Israel whom he is courting in his presidential campaign. The dinner conversations he had envisioned with his Palestinian American friend have ended. He and Khalidi have seen each other only fleetingly in recent years.
And yet the warm embrace Obama gave to Khalidi, and words like those at the professor's going-away party, have left some Palestinian American leaders believing that Obama is more receptive to their viewpoint than he is willing to say.
If you were intelligent enough to warrant a debate
You're absolutely right, this is an opinion thread.. there have been no facts presented to support your case or claims at all.
You obviously prefer bluster to intelligent discourse, much like the good Reverend Wright.
A suggestion: Instead of typing dozens of replies, just post one that makes some sense and includes a few verifiable facts
This is the last post for me, I have better things to do with my time.
How is it that talking about the issues are off topic.
If you knew anything about how our current health care system works