-Honorary level 42 stealth Mason. (Gained a new level in WoW)


Does this mean you have covered in a very special non reflective paint?

Originally posted by stoneyg27
I have a couple of questions I would like to ask. What religion/cult allows it's members to practice other faiths before them? What cult tells you to put family, work, friends, the Laws of the Land and your religion before it? Just curious!!!

One other point, at the beginning of this thread somebody claimed that Charles Manson gave the Masonic sign of distress in court. Well that worked out well for him didn't it.

fraternal regards

Actually their is nothing in Feemasonry that will interfere with your own daily avocation or your religion.

In Masonry you are taught to put work and family before other things and uphold the laws of the realm which is the country you belong to.

So im curious to your question what cult does tell you to do these things as its certainly not freemasonry plus freemasonry is a fraternity not a cult!

Dave,

Apologies if I was unclear but that was the point I was making. Calling Freemasonry a religion/cult when it places itself behind Religion in your Obligation clearly doesn't add up.

fraternal regards

Originally posted by stoneyg27
Dave,

Apologies if I was unclear but that was the point I was making. Calling Freemasonry a religion/cult when it places itself behind Religion in your Obligation clearly doesn't add up.

fraternal regards

Aologies if i've picked your post up wrong i thought it was another anti-mason being sarcastic.

Yours Fraternally D

Originally posted by stoneyg27
Dave,

Apologies if I was unclear but that was the point I was making. Calling Freemasonry a religion/cult when it places itself behind Religion in your Obligation clearly doesn't add up.

fraternal regards

Stoney,

This is an aspect of Freemasonry that doesn't seem to resonate with those who naysay it. The simple reality is that Freemasonry instructs its followers to Be good husbands/men first, good employees/ers second, good followers of their religion thirdly and fourthly good Masons. Hardly the combination Hell-bent on world-wide domination uberalles, IMHO.

Fitz

Here is the secret of Freemasonry. It is a conspiracy! Ready?Que the ominous music DUH, DUH, DUH.

To take a good man and make him better...........Sorry to disapoint you.

Yes there are actually good men in the world despite what CNN would have us believe.

Source: I'm a Master Mason and Knight Templar.

[edit on 15-2-2009 by solomanskey]

very succinct....

"All true Masons know that their work is not secret. They also
realize that it must remain unknown to all who do not live the
true Masonic Life. If the secrets of Masonry were shouted from
the housetops they would be absolutely safe. Certain spiritual
qualities are necessary before Masonic secrets can be understood
by the Brothers themselves. It is only those who have been
weighed in the balance and found true, upright, and square who
have prepared themselves by their own growth to appreciate the
inner meanings of their Craft. To the rest of their Brethren
within or without the Lodge their sacred rituals must remain, as
Shakespeare might have said, "Words, words, words." Within the
Mason's own being is concealed the Power, which, blazing forth
from his purified being, constitutes the Builder's Word. His
life is the password which admits him to the true Masonic Lodge.
His spiritual urge is the sprig of acacia which through the
darkness of ignorance still proves that spiritual fire is alight.
Within himself he must build those qualities which will make
possible his true understanding of the Craft. He can show the
world only forms which mean nothing; the life within is forever
concealed until the eye of Spirit reveals it."
Manly Hall

[edit on 17-2-2009 by solomanskey]

Secrets? Hmmm... what are they really and what does it really matter? Your favorite restaurant is a secret to me, as is your mothers name or what you do behind closed doors. "Seeking light in masonry" is nothing more than a metaphor which means as a man you choose to strive for higher learning, and doing so within a fraternity like this only means that you have an opportunity to travel the same road with like minded brothers. The key is that it is only an opportunity, where the rest is individuality and personal choice.

Government conspiracies, evil esoteric rituals, mind control, it's all amusing to say the least, but truthfully there is probably darker thoughts spinning when the average person looks at porn on the internet. In reality though plenty of Masons just join for the camaraderie and are content in their position, while others push it to extremes, even going so far as questioning all angles of the square.

I would have to say that Masonry is guilty of helping good men willing to step forward gain more compassion for the world, and definitely a better code of ethics, but as for true secrets? lol, everyone has them. Your boss, your neighbors, your family and yes, even you.

~Solemnly and Sincerely~

that is not an easy question to answer. most secrets exist to be hidden. the few secrets that do come to your attention probably can not be trusted