What are the Masonic Secrets?

Originally posted by Wehali
I'm not saying all lodges are shady, but some of them certainly are.. and
the higher up the hierarchy, the darker it gets. Because if there is a
hierarchy, then there is power to be had, held by the people high up, and
if there is power to be had, then there is corruption and darkness.

By default, any sect that does not hold all members equal in rank, will
corrupt.. and if the sect is not dissolved soon enough, then the corruption,
the power and the dark intentions of those at the top, will only increase in
time. Those in the group without bad intentions, will become victims too,
one day or another.

Well, it's a good thing that Freemasonry, although not a sect, does hold all members equal in rank. Officer positions are elected, and last a one year term. There is no "higher up the hierarchy", because even Grand Lodge officers only have that same one year elected term. There's no corruption and darkness, because there's no power to be had.

Thanks for pointing that out.

I'm pretty sure each lodge member has a rank in the form of a number.

reply to post by AllTiedTogether


I believe your views on the Catholic Groups, I was told about a female pope once and how the pope has to sit on a seat a bear his testicles in order to prove he is a man long before the da vinci code then this book appeared and all this stuff was in it.

The freemasons can't be considered to be the same as these sectarian groups that admit Roman Catholics only as Freemasonry has members of all religions in it.

Their could be Truth that all these groups are linked, most groups are probably based on Freemasonry but in all honesty i dont know if the Catholic Church controls freemasonry it could well do as their are a number of connections. But its down to the individual to make his own mind up.

As stated on hear their are members of Catholic groups that are members of Masonry so this could be a connection as i am a member of a Protestant group which i would say is a bastardized form of freemasonry as the founders of this group were Freemasons.

You get out of Freemasonry what you put in, its how you interpret it as Fitzgibbon says some partners are happy to get piece while their Husbands go to their meetings.

Some members enjoy attending their meetings and like the cameraderie ie socialising, everyone has different reasons for liking it.

reply to post by Wehali


Maybe this is one of the Reasons that Religious discussion is forbidden in the temple!

Also what an acievment for masonry that it can unite men of the three main religions at a meeting!

Originally posted by Wehali
I'm pretty sure each lodge member has a rank in the form of a number.

Nope. The only number is the one on your dues card... filing and administration, not "rank." (Unless you think the account number on your electricity bill is also a ranking system...)

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Originally posted by Wehali
I'm pretty sure each lodge member has a rank in the form of a number.

Posters have stated that their is no rank no number but a group of equals whats the point of posting this if you don't believe it?

If you explain how you came to this conclusion maybe some of the other members can dispell this myth.

reply to post by AllTiedTogether


IMO, secretly...

- The Elites Masons, control fellows masons
- The United Grand Lodge of England, control Elites Masons
- The British Royal Family, control The United Grand Lodge of England
- The Vatican, Control The British Royal Family.

so the NWO, is the secret agenda, of the Vatican but all Feemasons are,
even if they don't know, Knights for Rome.

Whoa, whoa...

Conspiracy dudes, you are looking too hard. The truth is apparent and visible before you but you have to look before you can see.

I read an interesting parable in a journal today that demonstrates this:

This is likened to a man who lived in the mountains and was not acquainted with the city inhabitants. He sowed wheat, and then he ate the wheat just as it was.

One day, he came to the city, where he was served with good bread. That person said, 'What is this?' They answered him, 'This is bread to be eaten.' He ate and it was delicious to his palate. He said, 'What is this made from?' They said, 'It is made from wheat.

Afterwards, they served him cookies mixed with oil. He tasted them. He asked, 'And what are these made from?' They answered, 'From wheat.'

Afterwards, they offered him food fit for kings kneaded with oil and honey. He said, 'What are these made from?' They told him, 'From wheat'.

He said, 'I certainly have all these, because I eat the essence of all these, which is wheat.'

Because of this opinion, he did not learn how to make all these delicacies and he did not know of the delights of the world - thus, they were lost to him.

It is also so with one who grasps the generality of wisdom, but does not know the delights and delicacies that derive from that generality.

This is reported to be from The Zohar (which I think is in the Qabalah, but I'm not sure).

And so it is the same with the Gentlemen Conspiracy Theoriste. When you push aside the beauty and goodness of Freemasonry to get at the fields of wheat you are left unsatisfied.

If only you realize that the truth is behind you...

:-)

Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
reply to post by AllTiedTogether

 

IMO, secretly...

- The Elites Masons, control fellows masons
- The United Grand Lodge of England, control Elites Masons
- The British Royal Family, control The United Grand Lodge of England
- The Vatican, Control The British Royal Family.

so the NWO, is the secret agenda, of the Vatican but all Feemasons are,
even if they don't know, Knights for Rome.

ACHILLES!!

I knew it was you brother! Welcome back!

Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
IMO, secretly...

If it is such a well kept secret how where you able to obtain this information?

so the NWO, is the secret agenda, of the Vatican but all Feemasons are,
even if they don't know, Knights for Rome.

When we all work together as Gentlemen Conspiracy Theoristes (GCT'S)we will discover that this is only the misguided opinion of one person that does not have any basis or substantiation in reality.

Perhaps we can get those interesting Disney photos you used to post that illustrate your opinion so eloquently.

Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
... but i am talking about the guy, with augutusmasonicus by
u2u and let me tell you, its more then interesting,

I think the phrase I would use would be very revealing. People who get banned and subsequently rejoin seem to fall into the same patterns again; syntax, grammar, topics, posting style. Which if history is any judge quickly leads to a re-banning.

And if history can be a further judge leads to them re-rejoining, etc and so forth......ad nausem.

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus


ok but why are you acting so unfriendly, i havn't seen all his posts but
his vatican theory seems interesting, you had a very strange reaction IMO

Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
ok but why are you acting so unfriendly,

Unfriendly to who and how?

i havn't seen all his posts...

Really? Are you certain?

but
his vatican theory seems interesting, you had a very strange reaction IMO

This is the same vatican theory that you seem to accept and adhere to, interesting.....



[edit on 11-2-2009 by AugustusMasonicus]

He thinks that there are secrets (like NWO) secrets in Freemasonry. He is probably thinking about the Illuminati or something like that