What are the Masonic Secrets?

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posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda

That, last revelation from a '' Honest freemason '' conclude our second
investigation, now IT'S FINAL now please, no more energy on this one

Freemasonry is a Religion: REVEILED AND CONFIRMED



Now, Lets concentrate on our third and last masonic secret
'' Who control Freemasonry ''


This one has already been revealed by the 20th century scholar Stuart MacKenzie in his gripping documentary "So I Married an Axe Murderer".




The Queen, The Vatican, The Gettys, The Rothschilds, *and* Colonel Sanders before he went tits up. Oh, I hated the Colonel with is wee *beady* eyes, and that smug look on his face. "Oh, you're gonna buy my chicken! Ohhhhh!"




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posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 08:41 AM
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Please no childish behaviors, to derail our investigations.
our investigation, and '' 2 Freemasons '' as confirmed, that
Freemasonry is a Religion.

REVEILED, CONFIRMED AND FINAL..!

Now Next, let's focus on our Third and last masonic secret

'' Who control Freemasonry ''

discuss..!



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 08:42 AM
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If you listen carefully, Bro. MacKenzie also refers to Nibiru. Listen for virtual planetoid at the beginning:




posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
reply to post by emsed1
 


Please no childish behaviors, to derail our investigations.


Now Next, let's focus on our Third and last masonic secret

'' Who control Freemasonry ''


discuss..!



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 08:57 AM
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Apologies... not trying to derail, just inject some humor!


Shall we continue as true Gentleman Conspiracy Theoristes?

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Just as a side note, NWO, I consider you a brother as I do all people. Were you in need of Relief I would provide it to the best of my ability as I would to any human.

Also, I will admit there is One who is in control of all Masonry. I cannot, however, give the Name because it is the sacred task of each person to seek and find it for himself or herself.

It is also my sworn duty to never project my beliefs upon anyone else, especially a brother.

In my earliest investigations of Freemasonry (from a decidedly skeptical point of view) I was able to find and read everything in Masonic ritual and it was not difficult to find.

What cannot be discovered, read or watched on video, however, is the experience of the ritual. There are parts which are so beautiful and so reverent that they can leave you breathless or weeping.

Last night my lodge initiated a new Brother. There is a particular part of the initiation where the candidate is given his apron for the first time and its meaning is explained. Even after watching it many times it still causes grown men to weep.

But... my opinions only.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by emsed1


Also, I will admit there is One who is in control of all Masonry. I cannot,
however, give the Name because it is the sacred task of each person to
seek and find it for himself or herself.



We are getting in to it,

this time, as a Freemason, esmed1, has just reveiled that
Freemasonry is controled by one organisation.

Now we have to investigate to find, what is this Organisation, since esmed1
don't want to reveil it, it's up to us to investigate and find it

discuss..!



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda


We are getting in to it,

this time, as a Freemason, esmed1, has just reveiled that
Freemasonry is controled by one organisation.

Now we have to investigate to find, what is this Organisation, since esmed1
don't want to reveil it, it's up to us to investigate and find it

discuss..!


It looks to me like he was talking about God.

Discuss!



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 09:31 AM
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reply to post by Masonic Light
 


Oh yes the '' Great Architec of the Univers'' BUT beside your usual
answers to hide, who he is really or which organisation represent
that strange masonic God of yours who control Freemasonry.

Discuss..!



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
who he is really


He is the Architect of Heaven and Earth, the Giver of all good gifts, and the Judge of the quick and the dead.

Next question!



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 09:41 AM
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Just GOD. The God that created this universe. I am a Christian and I believe the only way to salvation is through Jesus Christ, but that doesn't mean the next mason believes the same. We are taught to be steadfast in our faith, whatever it may be, while respecting others'. This is why religion IS NOT discussed in the Lodge/Temple. The " Great Architect of the Universe is a JOB DESCRIPTION not a name. I dont understand why this conept is so hard for people to understand. It's really quite simple

My question to you conspiracy theorist is, How is Masonry a religion when we are not allowed to discuss religion and told we should be steadfast in the faith of our own choosing?



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 09:50 AM
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www.ugle.org.uk...

The United Grand Lodge of England is the official Grand Lodge of England

the grand lodge of all england is not recognised as an official masonic organisation.

www.freemasonry.fm...

www.thefreemason.com...

www.freemasonrytoday.com...

www.orindalodge.org...



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 09:55 AM
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to be honest you should said,'' in freemason's temples it's not allowed
to dicuss other religion and other gods then the all powerfull masonic God,
the great Architect of the Univers''

BUT please, that as already been REVEILED AND CONFIRMED

Come on Guys, we have already REVEILED AND CONFIRMED 2 of the
biggest masonic secrets. someone, somewhere have the clues to help
our investigation, on this third masonic secret.

and please freemasons, lets get in, with this last masonic secret
'' Who control Freemasonry''



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 10:00 AM
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interesting BetweenMyths,

the United Kindom is the country of the head office of
freemasonry, so is the Royal Blood, controlling Freemasonry.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda

the United Kindom is the country of the head office of
freemasonry, so is the Royal Blood, controlling Freemasonry.


Wrong. It's only the head office for the United Grand Lodge of England.

Also, what "two secrets" are you talking about?

Discuss!!!!



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 10:17 AM
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Well my lodge doesn't answer to anyone except the state Grand Lodge.

As far as Who controls Masonry, I was referring to (in my case) the Grand Architect of the Universe, The Heavenly Father, The I AM who is THE UNCREATED.

Or, in my case...

God



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 11:01 AM
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OK, so your temple answer, to your state Grand Lodge and
your state Grand Lodge, answer the United Grand Lodge of England.

The oldest and most powerful Masonic Temple of the World from where
our world is being design by Those Great Masonic Architects.

p.s. Please Masonic Light, stay focus on our third investigation
'' Who control Freemasonry''

Please lets find out



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:03 PM
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The "organization" that controls freemasonry and of course the rest of us to is not 'god' as we know it, him, her. God is merely dog spelled backwards. No the organization that controls masonry and the rest of us is called "the council". Although many of the masons have tried to avoid the fact that allied with masonry is an esoteric tradition they are wrong. For any person who is in an esoteric study will eventually come across the council, it's will and there is where their research will hit a wall. How to get around this wall is unclear to me but it exists. Once you know of the council it makes you feel used, and its motives are unclear.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda

OK, so your temple answer, to your state Grand Lodge and
your state Grand Lodge, answer the United Grand Lodge of England.


No, state Grand Lodges answer to nobody but themselves. Each Grand Lodge is autonomous. The United Grand Lodge of England has no authority outside of England, and the Grand Lodge of Ontario has no authority outside of Ontario.

Before the American Revolution, the colonies had Provincial Grand Lodges that answered to the Grand Lodge of England. But when the Revolutionary War began, the American Grand Lodges became independent from England.





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posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:09 PM
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reply to post by Masonic Light
 


Well, if you say so,


But if you don't mine, we will continue to investigate anyway..



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
reply to post by Masonic Light
 


Well, if you say so,




It's hilarious that you roll your eyes at the truth. What Masonic Light said is exactly right. Each State Grand Lodge in the U.S. is autonomous. We are in fraternal "recognition" of one another as well as with the UGLE, the Grand Lodge of Ontario, etc. But those bodies have no authority over MY Grand Lodges (I say Lodges because I belong to a local Lodge in Missouri, which is under the authority of the Grand Lodge of Missouri. AND I belong to a local Lodge in Kentucky, which is under the Grand Lodge of Kentucky).

If the United Grand Lodge of England were to try to enforce some rule or edict in Missouri or Kentucky (which they wouldn't) it would mean nothing at all.

A good example of what Masonic Light pointed out is with the Anglican Church. Your claim that the UGLE has authority in the U.S.A. is like saying the Archbishop of Canterbury has authority over the Episcopal Church, USA. Much like in Masonry, when what is now the U.S.A. separated herself from England, the Anglican Church here became the Episcopal Church and is autonomous. The various Anglican Churches around the world are in "communion" with the See of Canterbury, but the Archbishop of Canterbury has no authority in the U.S.A. The Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church does.

You say you're going to continue your research...I strongly encourage that. In fact, if you're interested in truth, why not contact the Grand Master of some state and ask him directly? It's really simple stuff and would make MUCH more sense than reading the things that people who've never even BEEN Masons post about us with so much . . . uhm . . . authority.

Most Grand Lodges have a web-site with Grand Officers listed, pictured...and even their e-mails. And Most Grand Masters are pretty nice guys!

I suppose, though, you'd think they will lie because they're Masons, huh? Time for me to roll MY eyes.


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