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posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by emsed1

The people who try to tell you that there is a 'masonic god' are trying to confuse you and mislead you. If you look deeply enough you will see that they have an agenda.


I totally agree with this. I don't know if Freemasons are the anti-NWO, but there is some serious misdirection and disinformation going on (and not just about Freemasons)...

Oh, and Alex Jones scares me too! I'm not worried about my 'nards so much, mainly because I don't have any, but yeah, he seems like a somewhat violent man. I'm not sure how his brand of fearmongering can be useful to anything other than building his bank account.




posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:24 PM
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I've always been open to all opinions about all subjects. To me, there is a difference between researching for a possible connection between the NWO and Freemasonry and going on a witchhunt to burn Masons at the stake. Of all of your posts I've read you do more of latter.

I don't see any conspiracy when a Mason defends Freemasonry. Like many other organized groups in the world Freemasonry probably has its share of members who have done things that reflect badly on Freemasonry as a whole. In other words... Theres a prick in every group. And it only takes one to give the wole group a bad rap.

Further more, why is it odd that Freemasons would want to post on a message board about Freemasonry??? Isn't that a subject that they would know a lot about? And on a message board thats pretty much dedicated to ideas and theories based upon plots involving Masons, it's nice knowing that there are several experts in that area here to shed light on the subject.... you know people who have lived through it... people who are Masons.

If you don't take them for their word thats your problem. Of all the men I've known in my life there a several who have stood out to me as people that I've looked up too, respected greatly, and trusted. I found out at different points in time later, that they were all Masons.

Since I joined this forum about a year ago or so, I've read quite a bit of material in the archives. All the material I've been through has brought me to the conclusion that a Masonic conspiracy is extremely unlikely. Bad Masons, yes. Theres always a black sheep in every family. Grand Masonic Conspiracy to rule the world, I think not.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:40 PM
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You are obviously a stealth Mason here to prevent "NWO Secret Agenda" from researching us. I guess he's cracked our code.




posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:46 PM
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Busted... I've been taking notes from Rune.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 02:03 PM
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i hope you will not mind BUT i will still investigate anyway
we will see where the masonic light is lead the world...



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
i hope you will not mind BUT i will still investigate anyway
we will see where the masonic light is lead the world...


Just curious.
How exacty would one go about investigating? ....or do you mean you'll be reading websites, Googling, etc.?



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
i hope you will not mind BUT i will still investigate anyway
we will see where the masonic light is lead the world...


Of course!

Please let us know if we can help.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by emsed1

Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
i hope you will not mind BUT i will still investigate anyway
we will see where the masonic light is lead the world...



Please let us know if we can help.


sure...if you are really ready to investigate masonic conspiracies

BUT if it's to try to show me the path to your Temples
( as you call your lodges ) and try to convince me to follow the light
of your religion ...WELL, DON'T CALL ME, I'LL CALL YOU..!

don't forget to comment on the videos i posted earlier today, if you want
to explore freemasonry investigation.

follow the link to those videos:

videos post by NWO secret agenda
 



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
BUT if it's to try to show me the path to your Temples
( as you call your lodges ) and try to convince me to follow the light
of your religion ...WELL, DON'T CALL ME, I'LL CALL YOU..!


Temples are buildings. Lodges are the groups of Freemasons. Is a difference, donchaknow? There's 3 Lodges meet in our Temple. Does that mean there's 3 Temples in your lexicon?



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 10:12 PM
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Wow we have the chance to have a real freemason to help us.
first, here is a quote of Fitzgibbon, confirming he is a freemason:


Originally posted by Fitzgibbon

Originally posted by hotelguy26
I am ready to join, but I do not know any Masons... is this a problem???


Not at all. I was in the very same position before I joined and went by the
local Masonic temple a few times before running into someone.


OK, so as a freemason, referring from your last post, you saying that a
lodge is a group of freemasons, BUT the ''building'' where you meet is a
Temple, ( Temple is often engraves on the building's front walls )

OK, so by definition a Temple is:
''A temple (from the Latin word templum) is a structure reserved for
religious or spiritual activities, such as prayer and sacrifice. ''

hmmm hmmm
OK, so we are far aways from the definition of a fraternal
private club only, if as you are saying you call it a Temple, we can now, once
and for all, understand that freemasonry is a religion.

This time, and by the mouth of a freemason, the masonic secret, that
freemasonry is indeed a religion is reveiled and confirmed.

Thank you Fitzgibbon, you see, i am open to let freemasons help my investigation,


For a little more on freemasonry being a religion, i found this video:
www.ankerberg.org...

Now, next. what else can we find and reveil..!



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 10:36 PM
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WOW!
Every once in a while someone can surprise you with a statement. I love it when you mason's unknowingly let out something... OOPS('
')

That will get a caution...

Rgds

Detailed perusal of these mason's posts can be revealing at times...

IMO


[edit on 10-2-2009 by AllTiedTogether]



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 11:20 PM
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As we all know, many words today have multiple usages. Their meanings change in the context that you are using them. A "Temple" in the context of Masonry is defined as another name for a Masonic building. The word is used in the same sense that Justice Wendell Holmes called the Supreme Court a " Temple of Justice ." Most lodges now refer to their buildings as Masonic Centers.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:24 AM
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We don't have a temple in my town.

We have a 'Masonic Center' in which three lodges meet.

We are not allowed to discuss religion in the lodge, so it would be pretty hard to 'be' a religion if you can't talk about religion.

We DO talk about things like:

- temperance
- fortitude
- prudence
- justice
- brotherly love
- relief
- truth
- faith
- hope
- charity
- wisdom
- strength
- beauty

... but not religion and not politics.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 01:24 AM
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No no no no no.., please
we have to manage our energy, if we
want to expose ALL, masonic secrets.

"The masonic secret that freemasonry is a religion'' as been REVEILED AND CONFIRMED
Don't lie to your self. If you're having a hard time realising it , just take
the time to watch the video link on my last post it will help you.

Now, lets put our energy to investigate the next masonic secret



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 01:27 AM
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
reply to post by emsed1
 


No no no no no.., please
we have to manage our energy, if we
want to expose ALL, masonic secrets.

"The masonic secret that freemasonry is a religion'' as been REVEILED AND CONFIRMED
Don't lie to your self. If you're having a hard time realising it , just take
the time to watch the video link on my last post it will help you.

Now, lets put our energy to investigate the next masonic secret


No. It hasn't. If you still believe that, you have wasted your energy.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 01:53 AM
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This is what I love about these mason arguments... one mason will verify that they use the word temple to identify with their place of "worship" or meeting. Then you get another that says that the word is not used in the same context in the mason community as the general community.

Are they saying their language is all different than ours and that's why we can't get a straight answer from them? I get this in every thread about masons, they will do this exact thing every single time....

Of course you've noticed that with your 39pages of derailment that started from the first post.

IMO
Rgds


[edit on 11-2-2009 by AllTiedTogether]



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 07:10 AM
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My lodge is still refered to as a Masonic Temple, however three of the other lodges in my district all meet in the same place which is called a Masonic Center.

Please read the following definitions from Webster's Dictionary, you know, the thing that really tells you what words mean....

2: a local lodge of any of various fraternal orders ; also : the building housing it
3: a place devoted to a special purpose



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 07:26 AM
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Some Lodge buildings are called "temples", others are called "lodges". So what?

I guess I just don't understand why it matters. Even if Freemasonry *was* a religion....so what? What's it to you guys? This is America, and I can practice whatever religion I want.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by Masonic Light

'' What's it to you guys? This is America, and I can practice whatever religion I want. ''


YOUR ARE RIGHT, if you can find happyness, practicing the Religion of Freemasonry
IT IS OK, the probleme, was that Freemasonry is always trying to hide it's a religion.
Being dishonest with us was the problem, but hey, if you are my neighbor
and practicing the Religion of Freemasonry and you are honest about it...

That, last revelation from a '' Honest freemason '' conclude our second
investigation, now IT'S FINAL now please, no more energy on this one

Freemasonry is a Religion: REVEILED AND CONFIRMED



Now, Lets concentrate on our third and last masonic secret
'' Who control Freemasonry ''



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
reply to post by emsed1
 


No no no no no.., please
we have to manage our energy, if we
want to expose ALL, masonic secrets.

"The masonic secret that freemasonry is a religion'' as been REVEILED AND CONFIRMED
Don't lie to your self. If you're having a hard time realising it , just take
the time to watch the video link on my last post it will help you.

Now, lets put our energy to investigate the next masonic secret



That site has nothing but one man's opinion that Freemasonry is NOT Christianity.

I will admit that Blue Lodge Masonry is not Christianity.

I will also admit that I am not a horse, but that does not logically mean I am automatically a donkey because a veterinarian says I'm not a horse.

But again... my opinion versus yours. :-)





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