What are the Masonic Secrets?

Originally posted by emsed1
reply to post by NWO secret agenda

 

As for the internet - Don't believe all you have read.

you are totaly right, i think about it, every time, i read a freemason's post
or if i search into a freemasonry site.

It is very hard for almost all masons to be impartial in their opinions, on
freemasonry so i don't beleive all i read on the net or from freemasons.

i am trying to trust my judgment only after having see both sides. to be
sure i don't have a illusion of knowledge, i think this is the only way
to investigate freemasonry's conspiracies.

reply to post by NWO secret agenda


Heh. I am not a stealth mason. True, I considered joining at one point, but the local lodges all meet on Tuesday, at the same time I take karate classes.
I'm afraid karate is a lot more fun that Masonry.

your role playing game only
prove, we have to investigate freemasonry.

Actually, you're statements prove instead that some people will create any scenario to prove them right.

i am trying to trust my judgment only after having see both sides. to be
sure i don't have a illusion of knowledge, i think this is the only way
to investigate freemasonry's conspiracies.

Well, you've ruled out Masons as a source of information, and you seem to accuse everyone who supports Masons as being a stealth Mason.
That's not exactly a unbiased position.



[edit on 6-2-2009 by RuneSpider]

reply to post by RuneSpider


ALWAYS trying to derail, conspiracy theorists investigating on freemasonry
is not a very unbiased position eighter.

you decided, to follow the light of freemasonry, hey if the freemason's god
, the great architec of the univers is your sheppard, i will respect that but
we are into a conspiracy forum, to investigate conspiracies not to defend
the Temple of freemasonry, without taking into consideration all
conspiracy theorists discoveries

if you have time on Tuesdays to come to ats and post here to help your
brothers... i'am having a hard time beleive you don't have the time
to go to your town's freemasonry temple's reunions.

there is alot of very interesting discoveries on freemasonry, conspiracies
on this thread so lets talk about it, and find more about masonic secrets

reply to post by NWO secret agenda


Masonic lodges meet at seven thirty, last a bout a hour, and then they go home.
Karate lasts about an hour, hour and a half usually.
So no, I do not have time to do both. Yes, I can post on ATS on Tuesdays, that is because I am usually home by around three o'clock, and then go to karate from there.

If you want, you can check. I can provide the local lodges in my area and the karate place I go to.

you decided, to follow the light of freemasonry, hey if the freemason's god
, the great architec of the univers is your sheppard,

I don't worship the Freemason's god, point of fact is I don't worship any god. I say thanks on occasion but that's about it.

As for Masonry's Grand Architect of the Universe... he is not intended to be one God, he is the Masons God. The idea is, that all men, and all faiths are equal.
Keeps people from squabbling about their beliefs and deities. Something I've seen time and again seeing a many of my friends are atheists or fundamentalists.

a thread here in ats, is about the the masonic god the great architect of the univers or as some call him, the all seing eye god

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
a thread here in ats, is about the the masonic god the great architect of the univers or as some call him, the all seing eye god

www.abovetopsecret.com...

yap, and we are getting closer and closer to reveil, who is really
The Great Architect of the Universe and why freemasons are hidding the truth

Originally posted by NWO secret agenda

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
a thread here in ats, is about the the masonic god the great architect of the univers or as some call him, the all seing eye god

www.abovetopsecret.com...

yap, and we are getting closer and closer to reveil, who is really
The Great Architect of the Universe and why freemasons are hidding the truth

In my opinion the entire point of Freemasonry is that there IS NOT a masonic god.

We don't do worship or religion in our meetings and rituals. It's up to each individual Mason to believe who or what God is.

The people who try to tell you that there is a 'masonic god' are trying to confuse you and mislead you. If you look deeply enough you will see that they have an agenda.

Would it not be ironic some day to find out that Freemasonry was the "anti-NWO" all along?

reply to post by emsed1


since you have friends, who don't have sense of humor, i will be more
serious on my posts.

So you are saying, that all conspiracy theorists who are not masons and
want to investigate masonry, like Alex Jones, David Icke, Jim Tucker etc.
are the one whos are mind controlling the world and leading the world
into a new world order, and freemasons are the ones who are protesting
against the NWO.

Escuse me but that seems to be the world turned upside down, and
hmmm, i saw conspiracy theorists protesting but i never saw a freemasons
protesting against the nwo.

that is my opinion i have about our world, it is just different then yours i guess.

reply to post by NWO secret agenda


I am a Freemason and i protest against a New World Order. Don't get Masonry and the NWO mixed up..it is not wise. Personally all the things i have ever read or herd from David Icke and Alex Jones about Freemasonry is rubbish. They make a lot of claims and accusations that have nothing to do with Masonry or it's just some attempt to put a blame on a group of people ( in which case i guess its the Freemasons).

reply to post by bushidomason


escuse me but i went into your profil page and took a look about your
posts and i did so for all freemaosns here in ats and all are PROTESTING
against those who are exposing freemasonry conspiracies only, no protest
against a one world government or the nwo or freemasonry conspiracies

and as for Jones, tucker and icke, sorry but i disagree, they are leading
a revolution against the nwo and i hope they will continue

reply to post by NWO secret agenda


haha well no i talk in all the masonic threads because its what i like? The funny thing abut Masonry is there is No conspiracy..join and you will find the same as well.

i like to talk about masonry and disprove negative and false accusations...since when was that bad? i urge anyone to join a local lodge and see what we have to share to the world. i'm sure you would enjoy it as much as i have

reply to post by NWO secret agenda

Here's another Freemason that opposes a NWO and knows that Freemasons are not involved with it.

sure, we beleive you

if we listen to the vatican's opinion of then self, the church had always
behaved without sins BUT...

SO JUST IN CASE, if you don't mine
i will still continue to investigate ok,

reply to post by NWO secret agenda

So you already have a closed mind and so there is no real reason to debate with you.

Well, I guess you can stay "investigating" all you want. Not sure what you are going to find.

Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
reply to post by emsed1

 

since you have friends, who don't have sense of humor, i will be more
serious on my posts.

So you are saying, that all conspiracy theorists who are not masons and
want to investigate masonry, like Alex Jones, David Icke, Jim Tucker etc.
are the one whos are mind controlling the world and leading the world
into a new world order, and freemasons are the ones who are protesting
against the NWO.

Escuse me but that seems to be the world turned upside down, and
hmmm, i saw conspiracy theorists protesting but i never saw a freemasons
protesting against the nwo.

that is my opinion i have about our world, it is just different then yours i guess.

That's what makes us human, having different opinions and observations about the world. :-)

To be honest Alex Jones just scares the crap out of me. It's not because of his opinions, but just the thought that he might walk up and punch me right in the 'nards if he didn't like me.

I can't know for certain if those guys are behind the NWO conspiracy, but if you look at what's available on the web that's pro-masonry and what's anti-masonry the anti-masonry site overwhelmingly are selling something, whether it's books, videos, site memberships, etc.

It's only my opinion but if those dudes didn't keep stoking the fire they'd never be able to sell any books.

Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
reply to post by bushidomason

 

escuse me but i went into your profil page and took a look about your
posts and i did so for all freemaosns here in ats and all are PROTESTING
against those who are exposing freemasonry conspiracies only, no protest
against a one world government or the nwo or freemasonry conspiracies

and as for Jones, tucker and icke, sorry but i disagree, they are leading
a revolution against the nwo and i hope they will continue

That's mostly because a Master Mason would never use Freemasonry to push a political or religious agenda.

I don't mind most things posted here that are negative to Freemasonry, but to be honest we have been accused of lots of horrible things like pedophilia and murder and it's just outright offensive.

I've generally noticed that most anti-Masonry sites tend to rally behind ideas that are supposedly what they are fighting the NWO against.

reply to post by cutbothways


WOW! Derailed from the first post, and assisted by a Super Moderator no less. This is the kind of logic that comes from the people that tend to fight for the better knowledge of the mason understanding. I call it lack of understanding but that's my opinion....

As for secrets and whether we know of them, I believe some secrets have been revealed to the masses through masons who gained a conscious after finding out the levels of their deeds. When these secrets are revealed, their fellow masons will bad mouth them and make them look like the criminal they are by providing evidence of illegal activities that their brothers have for just such an occasion.

All my opinions are based on evidence provided in various threads provided throughout this website.

Rgds
S&F for awareness of the bad in Secret groups


[edit on 10-2-2009 by AllTiedTogether]

For those who are interested in investigating freemasonry conspiracies
i found those videos.

Escuse me masons, but i honestly posting those videos only as tools to
help our investigation, nothing personal, so please let us evaluate and
explore other sides of freemasonry then those your always showing
us, let us find by our self, what are the masonic hidden secrets, that
freemasonry don't want to reveil.

Google Video Link