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What are the Masonic Secrets?

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posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 07:09 PM
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What does joining a masonic lodge give you over everyone else except a exclusive club robe and nametag and degree? there is something more to it but what?



Well... pretty much, they get to have other people think they are really mysterious. Which has it's upsides and downsides.
Of course, it's intended also as a way to organize these folks. The ritual work and bi-weekly meetings give them common grounds.




posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 07:32 PM
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reply to post by RuneSpider
 


Wait, wait - there is a exclusive club robe I was supposed to get?

I feel ripped off!



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 07:50 PM
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reply to post by LowLevelMason
 


Sorry... I uh... sorta intercepted your mail.
It's real velvet. It's nice.



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by openmindresearch
you said, we are ignoring the truth...

your Masonic ''VISION OF LIFE'' is not necessarily THE TRUTH, because you are following,
the Light of the great architect of the universe.

THE TRUTH, should not be afraid of investigation, i'am not saying i know the Truth
but we are here, in a conspiracy forum and at least, we are investigating, to find it.


and hmmmm... please freemasons, stay civilize in reaction of my post, insults will only prove you
are afraid of investigations. tks


Don't worry, debates will be alot more enjoyable now,
thanks to SkepticOverlord, denying ignorance will be possible now..!


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Originally posted by NoMoreTyranny

Originally posted by eventHorizon

i'm puzzled by deletion of prior posts in this thread.
who is the mod that deleted these posts?

there is no paranoia here, we only want to know why posts got
removed and by whom.



i dont know, if they were coverup, but a lot more posts, are being erased,
in the secret society section, about freemasonry, then in any other threads in above top secret.


maybe, not all masonic secrets, are as wonderful...as freemasons says..!


12.21.12 said he could imagine, TruthDefender's question is true, i can imagine it is possible to.


i don't know about those erased posts but there is probably someone here
who was present that day and saw those posts before they were erased
they are the only one, who can clearify the situation.

If you witnessed something interesting, please expose it


Originally posted by mick1423

Originally posted by TruthDefender
reply to post by cutbothways
 


Could it be a masonic secret...

that '' maybe '' freemasons, would infiltrate, conspiracy forums,
to control informations about freemasonry, secret conspiracies
and to derail investigations and to avoid, all the truth about masonry
to be expose.

Do you think, it could be possible...

i don't know but, it could explain, all those strange behiaviors,
against those, who dare to investigate or expose, hidden... , masonic secrets!


If those strange behiaviors, were possible, they will not be anymore,
again we all have to thanks ATS's integrity and SkepticOverlord



posted on Feb, 1 2009 @ 06:24 PM
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IMO, to be sure, impartiality is being respected, in secret society's threads
we should at least, know all members and moderators who are Freemasons.

if truth is not afraid of investigation, this post will not be coverup...



posted on Feb, 1 2009 @ 08:15 PM
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so i guess, because you haven't exposed my last post, about my
suggestion to reveil, all members and moderators, who are freemasons,
to be sure impartiality in ATS is respected, that you did, cover it up,
because you are afraid of investigations.

that will be exposed, to all, other conspiracy forums...



posted on Feb, 2 2009 @ 09:28 AM
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2 posts coverup, to avoid investigation on moderators
membership in freemasonry, wow ATS is really
controlling informations, denying ignorance in ats, is now impossible



posted on Feb, 2 2009 @ 12:57 PM
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Patience, Anon. It does take awhile to wade through the volume of Anonymous posts to make them "live". I hope it doesn't come as a great shock that we won't be "disclosing" who's a Mason and who isn't.

Revealing personal information like that is up to the individual. Most of the Masons I know of on the board are anything but shy about disclosing it, but ultimately, it's their call. I'd certainly advise against any type of concerted effort to disclose anything of a personal nature about any of our members.

I do see irony virtually dripping from someone who posts anonymously yet has some sort of agenda about other people's personal information.

Just sayin'.



posted on Feb, 2 2009 @ 01:17 PM
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Ko-Ko: As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list — I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed — who never would be missed!
There's the pestilential nuisances who write for autographs —
All people who have flabby hands and irritating laughs —
All children who are up in dates, and floor you with 'em flat —
All persons who in shaking hands, shake hands with you like that —
And all third persons who on spoiling tête-á-têtes insist —
They'd none of 'em be missed — they'd none of 'em be missed!

Chorus: He's got 'em on the list — he's got 'em on the list;
And they'll none of 'em be missed — they'll none of 'em be missed.

Ko-Ko: There's the banjo serenader, and the others of his race,
And the piano-organist — I've got him on the list!
And the people who eat peppermint and puff it in your face,
They never would be missed — they never would be missed!
Then the idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone,
All centuries but this, and every country but his own;
And the lady from the provinces, who dresses like a guy,
And who "doesn't think she dances, but would rather like to try";
And that singular anomaly, the lady novelist —
I don't think she'd be missed — I'm sure she'd not he missed!

Chorus: He's got her on the list — he's got her on the list;
And I don't think she'll be missed — I'm sure she'll not be missed!

Ko-Ko: And that Nisi Prius nuisance, who just now is rather rife,
The Judicial humorist — I've got him on the list!
All funny fellows, comic men, and clowns of private life —
They'd none of 'em be missed — they'd none of 'em be missed.
And apologetic statesmen of a compromising kind,
Such as — What d'ye call him — Thing'em-bob, and likewise — Never-mind,
And 'St— 'st— 'st— and What's-his-name, and also You-know-who —
The task of filling up the blanks I'd rather leave to you.
But it really doesn't matter whom you put upon the list,
For they'd none of 'em be missed — they'd none of 'em be missed!

Chorus: You may put 'em on the list — you may put 'em on the list;
And they'll none of 'em be missed — they'll none of 'em be missed!

From Gilbert & Sullivan's The Mikado

Chalk me up with those you'd like to march in front of the Lord High Executioner.

Though, to be honest, Anonymous, once you've started making lists, where do you stop? "Oh, it's too much bother to keep a list of Masons on ATS. Perhaps we should brand them with serial numbers, or sew triangles onto their Avatar pics? All for the public good, of course.

[edit on 2/2/2009 by JoshNorton]



posted on Feb, 2 2009 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by JoshNorton
Chalk me up with those you'd like to march in front of the Lord High Executioner.


So, from "we protect the privacy of our members" you get we'd like to have you executed?

No issues there.


[Edit to add]

I may have misread your intent. If so, I apologize. I'll take the opportunity, though, to link to our Privacy Policy. The only thing we care about when moderating is adherence to the Terms and Conditions. Members' personal information is private and we won't be a party to disclosing any of it.

Any member who believes any action was taken that contradicts the T&C, or arises out of some less than neutral position of a staff member is free to submit a Complaint/Suggestion from the Member Center which will be reviewed by all staff. Of course, you need to be a registered member to take advantage of that option.


I now return you to the thread topic - "What are the Masonic Secrets?" Thanks for your attention.

[edit on 2/2/2009 by yeahright]



posted on Feb, 2 2009 @ 01:46 PM
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Unabashedly a Freemason. Of course, that should be self-evident from the tone of my posts not to mention the "Masonic cat-herder" thing.

FWIW, I should think it's likewise self-evident who's a Mason and who's not by their posting. However, to avoid any confusion in that regard, Runespider is NOT a Mason though by analysis some would assume otherwise.



posted on Feb, 2 2009 @ 03:54 PM
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haaaaaaa thats look more, like a impartial forum, thank you,
for a couple of hours, i admit i was questioning ats integrity

that is Gaining Back My Confidence in ats. The only reason i suggested this
was to, at least know in debates, who are and who are not, to have
the opportunity to judge by our self on, what are the masonic secrets,
based on all point of view, freemasons, non-masons investigations and ex-freemasons.

having a freemason defending freemasonry but hidding it, is not impartial
and honest to us, who wants to evaluate both sides. we have to know
who are the players, i am sure you will all understand, it's the, only way
to respect conspiracy theorists investigations and to evaluate mods
decisions on threads about freemasonry, to be sure information is not
controled and manipulated.

after all, i think i will register , this site is very interesting :



posted on Feb, 2 2009 @ 05:22 PM
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Though, to be honest, Anonymous, once you've started making lists, where do you stop? "Oh, it's too much bother to keep a list of Masons on ATS. Perhaps we should brand them with serial numbers, or sew triangles onto their Avatar pics? All for the public good, of course.



It's personally disturbing to me how much I've been seeing this idea come up lately.

As for me being a Mason, all I've done in terms of Masonry is read about it, and been over all polite.
For such a secret society, it's remarkably easy to learn about.



posted on Feb, 2 2009 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
having a freemason defending freemasonry but hidding it, is not impartial and honest to us, who wants to evaluate both sides.


To my knowledge, there's no one posting here that's a stealth Mason. I mean, what's the point?


Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
we have to know who are the players, i am sure you will all understand, it's the, only way to respect conspiracy theorists investigations and to evaluate mods decisions on threads about freemasonry, to be sure information is not
controled and manipulated.


The only mod that I know that's a Mason is Mirthful Me and he isn't a mod in the forum.



posted on Feb, 2 2009 @ 06:18 PM
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Technically, Mirthful me is a super-mod. He can and has moderated this forum on occasion. GAOTU789 is a Mason, this has been brought up a few times recently. However, due to the way ATS is managed, it has never been a issue. The only people who've been banned deserved it.
Though I am surprised how some people can keep re-registering on this site, the bias for this doesn't seem to be leaning either way.



posted on Feb, 2 2009 @ 07:22 PM
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last post under anonymous, i just registered, : )

if all freemasons (members and mods) would had (FM), after there sreen
names, we would feel, it's a fair play in debates.

members of freemasonry like all other organisations or religions are
less impartial then outsiders who are not personaly involve and without
organisation's inflences, i am sure, you will all agree hmmm.

anti-freemason could had (AF) and those who are impartial conspiracy theorists (ICT)

now that i registered i see that some freemasons have a freemasonry avatar
on the left screen side, but for all who are not members, it is impossible to
know and anyway, not all freemasons had a freemasonry avatar or have
a name who say there are one like (lowlevelmason, who seems to have
been banned) so by clearly hading those (FM)(AF) or (ICT) it will be easier
for us.

as for stealth freemasons, please don't tell me, it never happened, that a
freemason, defended freemasonry or promot it without reveilling his
membership hmmm please, we have to be honest here.

i think my journey here in ats as just begun, it's fascinating



posted on Feb, 2 2009 @ 08:38 PM
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Er... why?

Seriously. Even if there was a stealth Mason... so what? Masons and non-masons regularly defend Masonry. Having a "stealth mason" be'd a pointless exercise.

As for having identifiers... why? A persons comments pretty clearly state whether or not they pro- or anti- ex-viewpoint.



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by bushidomason
reply to post by cutbothways
 


We are not racist if you’re trying to imply that slander as well.
.....
Are you just throwing random insults out there to cause attention or what?




With negroes for witnesses and jurors, the administration of justice becomes a blasphemous mockery. A Loyal League of negroes can cause any white man to be arrested, and can prove any charges it chooses to have made against him. ...The disenfranchised people of the South ... can find no protection for property, liberty or life, except in secret association.... We would unite every white man in the South, who is opposed to negro suffrage (from the Latin suffragium, meaning "voting tablet", and figuratively "right to vote"), into one great Order of Southern Brotherhood, with an organization complete, active, vigorous, in which a few should execute the concentrated will of all, and whose very existence should be concealed from all but its members.


Albert Pike, writing in an editorial dated April 16, 1868, Memphis, Tennessee Daily Appeal (of which he was the owner / publisher).


www.conspiracyarchive.com... .htm



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 09:26 AM
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It doesn't surprise me a whole lot that a former Confederate General in Tennessee in 1868 would have an opinion like that. If you're implying this is evidence that there's an official Masonic racist bent today, I think you're way off base.

You have to be able to separate Official Masonic Teaching from the opinions of individual Masons.

You can cherry pick opinions form individual members of virtually any group anywhere in the world from any time and find something unsavory. That doesn't mean they speak for the group every time they render an opinion about something.

Make sense?



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by yeahright
reply to post by luciferhorus
 


It doesn't surprise me a whole lot that a former Confederate General in Tennessee in 1868 would have an opinion like that. If you're implying this is evidence that there's an official Masonic racist bent today, I think you're way off base.


You have to bear in mind a few points.

1: The person whom I was replying to, uses a quotation by Albert Pike in his signature.

2: Pike's 'Morals and Dogma' is a standard Masonic Work which Masons of certain degrees have to purchase.

Pike may have lived in the 19th century, but there are still those who revere him today.

There are numerous individuals of the 19th century whom I personally rever such as the Anarchsits Kropotkin and Bakunin, but if I was to say that I revered a well known racist, that would say a lot about me.

It is widely disputed by Masons that Pike was behind the KKK, so I won't go there, since as Pike states himself, such activism would be in 'secret,' but it is an established fact that the early KKK meetings occurred in Masonic Lodges.

Perhaps before leaping to his defence you might try to envision the many photographs from American history of African Americans being tortured and lynched at the hands of smiling Americans who held the racist beliefs as Pike did.

Today in the square mile of the City of London (the financial districts) there are more Masonic Lodges (several hundred of them in fact) than in any other square mile on earth; and that is all about Usury (loan sharking), the export of Capital and the economic enslavement of humanity; I can assure you it is a 'white boys' club with a few black members at their 'front office.'

He who reveres a racist 'is' a racist.

Love and Light

Lux




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