Originally posted by Achilles 13

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus


'' I do not recall taking an oath when I joined AboveTop Secret .....''

Another proof, that *** NONE *** of the Freemasons, who are posting here
in Above top Secret, are TRUSTABLE AND CREDIBLE...

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ALL, ATS's Gentlemen Conspiracy Theorists, Took the Oath to honesly,
Deny Ignorance, Investigate and expose ALL Conspiracies.
WE ALL Sweared on OUR HONOR, to promote ALL human been's Rights,
and to defend and protect humanity from Coruption, Tyrany and
'' Machiavellian '' Conspiracies.

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P.S. ( and......for our brother driley... your member's avatar is a nice...
Vatican's Knight Templar design... )

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*** Achilles 13 ***

My member's avatar is actually the depiction of Jaques DeMolay, last grand master of the Templars, from the wall of the DeMolay chapter I attended some 20 years ago. I found it online and thought it was nice. I'm not sure why you think it is a Vatican's Knight Templar design, since DeMolay was fatally betrayed by the Pope and the structure of the church he had served his entire life.

I'm note sure how I missed that this thread actually had an aside addressed to me. I apologize for not responding sooner.

In reference to the "oath" we took when we joined... well, there wasn't one. We agreed, and continue to agree, that our participation here is subject to the Terms of Service and the whim of the owner and/or his designee. But then, that's every site on the internet.

An oath is a serious matter and to accuse someone of violating his oath is something that would, not so many years ago, have given rise to an opportunity to defend yourself "on the field of honor." In some respects, I think, we were a more civilized society when manners had consequences.

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Originally posted by mastermind77
it would be nice if you practiced being real humans, not monolithic ritualists and self congratulatory seekers of something everyone should openly know about, like the universal construct and our connection to it, or is that all just propaghanda?

Not sure where to start on this one... the fact that you're responding to someone's post from 5 months ago, who hasn't even been on here in a month is, well, a bit odd in and of itself.

But since Bushido is MIA at the moment, I'll try to offer my 2¢ (unless you'd prefer to await his return...)

What part of doing charity work, putting family first, and being active in ones community goes against being "real humans?" What qualities does a "real human" posses, in your opinion, that a Mason might be lacking?

I don't know anything about a "universal construct", at least not by that name. But seekers of knowledge? Sure. Some Masons are. Most aren't, but that's OK too.

Now, if you're accusing Masons of hoarding the knowledge they seek, then I'd like to point you at the NUMEROUS papers, publications, books, journals, etc. written by Masons that are available to anyone who'd care to buy them at their local bookstore or online. I've never seen a Mason treat such endeavors as proprietary, so perhaps that's a misperception on your part? (It's propaganda when we put it out about ourselves... it's slander when someone else puts it out about us falsely.)

Originally posted by Achilles 13
RuneSpider..In ALL your posts, you are always....
Defending or promoting Freemasonry..!.


That's not looking like a '' IMPARTIAL '' ATS's Gentlemen Conspiracy Theorist...
who wants to investigate conspiracies...

No, it's looking like a Gentleman Conspiracy Theorist who's investigated Masonic conspiracies, saw the evidence lacking, and made up his own mind on the matter.

Originally posted by Achilles 13
( P.S. ) AugustusMasonicus....i was a Roman Catholic to..., been baptised
BUT Logic and common sens made me realised, i will never be a stupid Sheep...

So are you saying that the individual you admire as the preminent 'Gentlemen Conspiracy Theorist', President John F. Kennedy, was a stupid sheep?

Atheist is intelectualy more, a realistic tool, to deal with our world..!

You are most certainly entitled to your opinion even though you chronically disparage others.

I see that you also chose not to address my comment regarding President Kennedy's affiliation with a 'Secret Society'. I would like to know how your sentiments are affected by the knowledge of his membership.

[edit on 10-9-2008 by AugustusMasonicus]

Originally posted by Achilles 13
RuneSpider..In ALL your posts, you are always....
Defending or promoting Freemasonry..!.


That's not looking like a '' IMPARTIAL '' ATS's Gentlemen Conspiracy Theorist...
who wants to investigate conspiracies...

I actually perused both of your recent posts and found that runespider's last fifty comments had twelve that related to Masonry. I do not think that qualifies as 'ALL'.

You however had all but two of your most recent fifty posts directed towards criticizing Masonry. Who do you think in actuality is the impartial candidate?