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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 08:00 PM by FrankieBnz
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reply to post by Achilles 13
Ok, let me get this right? 95% of my masonic brothers don't know what's going on. Ok, let's say your right. What good are the 5% going to do the
Catholic Church? Their members are rolling out the doors at unprecendented rates and 5% of an organization that has had diminished rolls for years is
going to do what for them?
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 08:20 PM by driley
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Originally posted by Achilles 13
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
'' I do not recall taking an oath when I joined AboveTop Secret .....''
Another proof, that *** NONE *** of the Freemasons, who are posting here
in Above top Secret, are TRUSTABLE AND CREDIBLE...
(snip)
ALL, ATS's Gentlemen Conspiracy Theorists, Took the Oath to honesly,
Deny Ignorance, Investigate and expose ALL Conspiracies.
WE ALL Sweared on OUR HONOR, to promote ALL human been's Rights,
and to defend and protect humanity from Coruption, Tyrany and
'' Machiavellian '' Conspiracies.
(more snipped)
P.S. ( and......for our brother driley... your member's avatar is a nice...
Vatican's Knight Templar design... ) 
(the rest snipped)
*** Achilles 13 ***
My member's avatar is actually the depiction of Jaques DeMolay, last grand master of the Templars, from the wall of the DeMolay chapter I attended
some 20 years ago. I found it online and thought it was nice. I'm not sure why you think it is a Vatican's Knight Templar design, since DeMolay was
fatally betrayed by the Pope and the structure of the church he had served his entire life.
I'm note sure how I missed that this thread actually had an aside addressed to me. I apologize for not responding sooner.
In reference to the "oath" we took when we joined... well, there wasn't one. We agreed, and continue to agree, that our participation here is
subject to the Terms of Service and the whim of the owner and/or his designee. But then, that's every site on the internet.
An oath is a serious matter and to accuse someone of violating his oath is something that would, not so many years ago, have given rise to an
opportunity to defend yourself "on the field of honor." In some respects, I think, we were a more civilized society when manners had
consequences.
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 10:22 PM by Achilles 13
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This Post is ONLY to those, who want to Deny Ignorance..!
Only for Real...and Honest...
*** ATS's Gentlemen Conspiracy theorists ***
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*** READ IT ALL BACK.......! *** ALL you need is in those 22 pages..!
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follow the Footprint of...
THE GREATEST GENTLEMEN CONSPIRACY THEORIST ..!
*** The President John F. Kennedy ***
'' ALL ROADS LEAD TO ROME...! ''
*** Achilles 13 ***
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 02:38 AM by RuneSpider
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Y'know, if you're not going to do anything but repeat yourself, and post edited pictures relating to something that's been debunked here for
awhile, would you please move on.
Or possibly come up with fresh material, like maybe something with Some comic book characters to draw the kiddies in.
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 11:11 AM by Achilles 13
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 01:47 PM by RuneSpider
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I'm going to guess that's directed at me, since my post was directed at you.
I am neither blonde nor bearded. For that matter, neither am I a Mason. And as for reading, I have. And I've seen you post the same nonsense over
and over again. With pictures on occasion.
The main way people have been derailing this thread is by claiming to know the truth! Though they're not exactly willing to explain how they do...
Though in truth, trying to hold a conversation with you could constitute as derailing.
As for who the Grand Architect is, last I checked, God fit the bill. And by God, personally, I mean the Christian, Juadeic, and Islamic one.
Oh, and the road outside my house leads to the highway, which generally leads to Pensacola or Talahassee, though I generally stop when I get to
work.
[edit on 10-9-2008 by RuneSpider]
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 02:05 PM by mastermind77
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Originally posted by bushidomason
reply to post by cutbothways
There are no secrets in freemasonry. That’s our secret 
Again I don’t understand what secret you’re trying to find out?
Do you want to know about what we do at our meetings?
Do you want to know our words ad handshakes?
it would be nice if you practiced being real humans, not monolithic ritualists and self congratulatory seekers of something everyone should openly
know about, like the universal construct and our connection to it, or is that all just propaghanda?
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 02:39 PM by JoshNorton
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Originally posted by mastermind77
it would be nice if you practiced being real humans, not monolithic ritualists and self congratulatory seekers of something everyone should openly
know about, like the universal construct and our connection to it, or is that all just propaghanda?
Not sure where to start on this one... the
fact that you're responding to someone's post from 5 months ago, who hasn't even been on here in a month is, well, a bit odd in and of itself.
But since Bushido is MIA at the moment, I'll try to offer my 2¢ (unless you'd prefer to await his return...)
What part of doing charity work, putting family first, and being active in ones community goes against being "real humans?" What qualities does a
"real human" posses, in your opinion, that a Mason might be lacking?
I don't know anything about a "universal construct", at least not by that name. But seekers of knowledge? Sure. Some Masons are. Most aren't, but
that's OK too.
Now, if you're accusing Masons of hoarding the knowledge they seek, then I'd like to point you at the NUMEROUS papers, publications, books,
journals, etc. written by Masons that are available to anyone who'd care to buy them at their local bookstore or online. I've never seen a Mason
treat such endeavors as proprietary, so perhaps that's a misperception on your part? (It's propaganda when we put it out about ourselves... it's
slander when someone else puts it out about us falsely.)
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 02:50 PM by AugustusMasonicus
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You are aware that President Kennedy was a member of a 'secret society', do you not?
'' ALL ROADS LEAD TO ROME...! ''
You are also aware that he was a Roman Catholic as well?
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 03:53 PM by Achilles 13
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Originally posted by RuneSpider
reply to post by Achilles 13
...., neither am I a Mason. .
[edit on 10-9-2008 by RuneSpider]
RuneSpider..In ALL your posts, you are always....
Defending or promoting Freemasonry..!.
That's not looking like a '' IMPARTIAL '' ATS's Gentlemen Conspiracy Theorist...
who wants to investigate conspiracies...
Hmmmm Brother....!
* sigh * 
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- Stop trying to manipulate populations
- Stop misleading populations
- Stop recruiting on ATS....
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Originally posted by jephers0n
New user here again, but I was wondering if any Masons from Toronto
could help me acquire an invite to a meeting, in any way?
Originally posted by RuneSpider
reply to [post by jephers0n[/url]
One good way is to check for lodges in Toronto online.
www.torontomasons.ca...
That's easily the most creative lodge site I've seen.
grandlodge.on.ca...
Has a list of lodges in the Toronto area, Google the lodge and you should
be able to get contact information for one or more of the lodge members,
and can talk with them.
Also, a lot of the masons here on ATS are pretty good about offering
information and answering questions.
Originally posted by RuneSpider
reply to post by adrenochrome[/url]
Being a Mason is a lot like being part of a church..., .
( P.S. ) AugustusMasonicus....i was a Roman Catholic to..., been baptised
BUT Logic and common sens made me realised, i will never be a stupid Sheep...
Atheist is intelectualy more, a realistic tool, to deal with our world..!
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*** READ IT ALL BACK.......! *** ALL you need is in those 22 pages..!
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 04:03 PM by JoshNorton
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Originally posted by Achilles 13
RuneSpider..In ALL your posts, you are always....
Defending or promoting Freemasonry..!.
That's not looking like a '' IMPARTIAL '' ATS's Gentlemen Conspiracy Theorist...
who wants to investigate conspiracies...
No, it's looking like a Gentleman Conspiracy Theorist who's investigated Masonic conspiracies, saw
the evidence lacking, and made up his own mind on the matter.
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 05:17 PM by LowLevelMason
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
You are aware that President Kennedy was a member of a 'secret society', do you not?
'' ALL ROADS LEAD TO ROME...! ''
You are also aware that he was a Roman Catholic as well?
Be careful, you'll cause his mind to explode.
This seems like someone who is so smug in his own perspective that hes completely unwilling to listen to any alternatives. He has drawn the world into
two groups - evil, evil masons and "gentlemen conspiracy theorists." Anything that deviates from this worldview must be a masonic plot.
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 05:26 PM by RuneSpider
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You're right, I've been less than impartial. mostly because I made up my own mind. Instead of listening to you. The fellow wanted to know about
ldges in his area, remarkably Google is a very useful tool that will enable you to find information like that.
As for defending Masonry, I respond with what I've learned. And what I've learned backs their case more than yours.
As for Catholics, are you saying JFK was a tool, as a Roman Catholic?
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 05:45 PM by JoshNorton
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Originally posted by LowLevelMason
Be careful, you'll cause his mind to explode.
This seems like someone who is so smug in his own perspective that hes completely unwilling to listen to any alternatives. He has drawn the world into
two groups - evil, evil masons and "gentlemen conspiracy theorists." Anything that deviates from this worldview must be a masonic plot.
Heh. You're new here. Achilles 13 used to post a picture that read
" Build Real Democracy". He stopped when I pointed out the letters were
likely stone and the men moving them into place likely Masons. 
I haven't seen him post his Gentleman Conspiracy Theorist picture since I
mentioned that it looked like the silhouette depicted was holding a gas-station bathroom key... And yeah, if somebody bothered calling Disney legal in
Burbank, we could probably bust him for his Pinocchio graphic too. I just haven't had the heart to break him again.
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 06:30 PM by LowLevelMason
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Well I have to hand it to him (her?), hes creative! Even if the graphics...aren't his!
Of course its most ironic that masons were thoroughly involved in creating the republic of the US, the closest we have to a "democracy". I wonder
how he'd feel that his "gentlemen conspiracy theorist" claim Disney was a mason - even though we know its not true. That wouldn't matter though,
since its a conspiracy theory and they must all be true...
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 07:02 PM by AugustusMasonicus
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Originally posted by Achilles 13
( P.S. ) AugustusMasonicus....i was a Roman Catholic to..., been baptised
BUT Logic and common sens made me realised, i will never be a stupid Sheep...
So are you saying that the individual you admire as the preminent 'Gentlemen Conspiracy Theorist', President John F. Kennedy, was a stupid sheep?
Atheist is intelectualy more, a realistic tool, to deal with our world..!
You are most certainly entitled to your opinion even though you chronically disparage others.
I see that you also chose not to address my comment regarding President Kennedy's affiliation with a 'Secret Society'. I would like to know how
your sentiments are affected by the knowledge of his membership.
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 07:16 PM by AugustusMasonicus
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Originally posted by Achilles 13
RuneSpider..In ALL your posts, you are always....
Defending or promoting Freemasonry..!.
That's not looking like a '' IMPARTIAL '' ATS's Gentlemen Conspiracy Theorist...
who wants to investigate conspiracies...
I actually perused both of your recent posts and found that runespider's last fifty comments had twelve that related to Masonry. I do not think that
qualifies as 'ALL'.
You however had all but two of your most recent fifty posts directed towards criticizing Masonry. Who do you think in actuality is the
impartial candidate?
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 07:41 PM by Achilles 13
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* Sigh *
Some Freemasons, Will NEVER Grow up and evoluate..!
ALL CULT's FOLLOWERS HAVE THE SAME PERSONALITY..!
When Profanes try to investigate their *** TEMPLES..! ***
Watch carfully this video, and try to find all the freemasons with a similar
personality..!
'' Freemasonry take good men, and brainwash them...'' 
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*** READ IT ALL BACK.......! *** ALL you need is in those 22 pages..!
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 08:08 PM by RuneSpider
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I'll have to interject something, on days when there's a pretty active few threads on Masonry, I tend to have a large number of posts associated
with the threads. So it's possible Achillies could have checked my post count then.
Achillies: Masons rent out their lodges for a large number of ceremonies, from weddings, theater, to parties. No ones involved has to be associated
with Masonry either, and they generally allow folks to have a walk through at a open house during certain times of the year.
In fact, I'm pretty sure if you asked, you'd be allowed to gain entrance and look around yourself.
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reply posted on 12-9-2008 @ 01:36 PM by network dude
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reply to post by Wolfheart
exactly what language are you posting in? I have seen you post in numerous threads and I have yet to understand any of them. You might even have
something worth while to add to the disscussion, but the way in which you distribute your words is highly counter productive. Please help us help
you. Speak in a way that we UNDERSTAND please.
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