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Originally posted by nyk537
This is exactly why I was hesitant to get into a Ron Paul thread after all this time. No matter what I say here, you are never going to believe that Ron Paul simply didn't have the support you think he deserves.
Originally posted by nyk537
I really hate to go back and visit a Ron Paul thread,
as I feel this horse has been beaten to death. However, sometimes the sheer magnitude of the whining just gets to you.
One day some of you Paul supporters are going to realize that this was not "taken" away from him by any grand conspiracy. The fact of the matter is that people did know who he was, and decided they didn't agree with him enough to nominate him for President.
No matter how much you refuse to believe it, if he really were the best candidate, he would have won. Period.
Originally posted by nyk537
That is the same argument I always heard from Paul supporters and I simply don't believe it.
I'm not sure who these people are that never heard of Ron Paul, but where I'm from there aren't too many people who didn't.
You see the majority of American citizens are not the gullible sheeple some people make them out to be. The average citizen does get a lot of news from the MSM, but also do a lot of research on their own.
I know it's hard to believe that most people are not drooling idiots you make them out to be, but it's true.
Ron Paul received all the attention his support warranted. The simple fact of the matter is that his views are not in line with the majority of America, whether you like it or not.
Originally posted by nyk537
So then you would consider yourself to be vastly more intelligent than the "average American" then? Why, because you're a Ron Paul supporter? Please.
Just because the majority of America doesn't support your candidate doesn't mean they have been "asleep at the wheel", or that they are uninformed. It just means they don't agree with you. Deal with it.
Originally posted by nyk537
No, I won't be lying when I tell you that I do. Time alloted during national debates should be alloted based on the popularity or performance of the candidate. Rest assured if Ron Paul were doing well in polls and primaries, he would have received more attention.
The fact of the matter is that why should someone spend much time listening to answers from a candidate who the majority of people care nothing about.
Sure Ron Paul had a large following in places like this, but the majority of people want to learn more about the candidates they care about, and who they feel are viable. Paul just didn't fit the bill.
Originally posted by nyk537
This is exactly why I was hesitant to get into a Ron Paul thread after all this time. No matter what I say here, you are never going to believe that Ron Paul simply didn't have the support you think he deserves. Your minds are already made up that his lack of support nationwide is the result of some grand media conspiracy.
And it's a shame too because on some issues I always agreed with Paul. He was never my candidate of choice for some other reasons, but I never dreaded the thought of a Paul run.
Originally posted by StellarX
Which informed person could pick either Hillary Clinton or barrack Obama over Ron Paul? Sure Obama is a better choice than any of the other major candidates but who the hell IS that Obama guy any ways and why do we even know about him? What has he ever done to get where he is today?
Stellar
Originally posted by RabbitChaser
I think Ron Paul has the messege that the majority of the people want to hear. They just don't listen because he is not a very effective communicator unless he is berating Ben Bernanke and The Fed, rightfully so. RP didn't exactly do a stellar job communicating on CNN with Jon Roberts.
He just doesn't appeal to the voters, sadly to say, I think alot because he does not "look" Presidential enough for them. But that's our society for ya'... based on wealth, power and looks for popularity... not on ideas.
I have urged Ron Paul and Wayne Root to seek each other out. Wayne is running for the Libertarian nomination and will most likely get the nod. Ron ran as a Libertarian on his last Presidential run. Ron has the experience and Wayne has the golden tongue... and they both have the right ideas.
20 minutes of Wayne Root
I honestly think these two could blow away any combo that the Dems. or Reps. can produce at this point. especially in a year where a monkey could win, but he already won (stole) the last two and is not eligible
Originally posted by Aaron_Justin
Then I asked what issues were important to them and how would thier candidate add something useful to that issue. Of course none of them had any answer of substance.