Reality: The Grand Illusion

reply to post by derfred33

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Well exactly. The absolute reality does exist.

Even if one agrees that reality is subjective, that renders reality absolutely subjective, and we by default all agree to this whether we do or not, because reality is thus said to be subjective! So our agreeance on the subject of subjectivity doesn't matter because that's what subjectivism explains and encourages! That means we are all entitled to our own perception of it. That means we all experience absolutely the same thing (subjectivism) and can experience it, but again not limited to experiencing it differently - by result of its very definition, that which allows for absolutely anything; differences, similarities and exactitudes: which in reality is exactly what it is when annexed! (Hope that wasn't too much!)

I think that actually this idea is not so foreign to Westerners. In fact, I think it was hinted at in many of the ancient pagan religions as well. I tend to think that both pantheism and monotheism are simply two different views of the "fact" that we are all different eyes of the same divine consciousness, perceiving and thus experiencing reality in an infinite number of unique ways. The multiple gods are in fact the deification and personification of the various archetypes that we all share despite our differences - they all exist to varying degrees in each of us - and I see this as rather reinforcing the idea that 'we are all one' and that our consciousness has "divine" or "magickal" powers. Maybe I find it hard to believe that my will alone can manifest the perfect romance...but if I disassociate that part of me and see it as Eros intervening to help...

I would also suggest that much of the alchemical and Western ceremonial magickal traditions hint at the same concepts, albeit in veiled and dramatized ways. Of course, I must acknowledge that much of this tradition was to at least some extent inspired by mystic knowledge from Eastern and Middle Eastern traditions, as well as from the Western pagan and Christian views.

But it does seem that these previously esoteric ideas are becoming more mainstream. We saw it with spiritualism and Theosophy in the early 20th century, and then we had the New Age movement growing out of the 60s and gaining ground in the 80s, and nowadays we even have popularly commercialized versions via things like The Secret, What the Bleep, and a whole variety of mass-market "self help" books that more or less all teach the same things about reality and consciousness (of course each with a different spin to appeal to a different segment of the population.)

I will admit it disturbs me when I hear about a book featured on Oprah that, when my mom lends me a copy and I read it, I find that it reinforces much of what I have learned in my own "obscure" and "esoteric" research. But the optimist in me says maybe these things happen to slip through the cracks of the control machine because we are finally starting to wake up to the reality that for so many centuries has only been known to a select few of our ancestors.

At least that's how eye see it...maybe ewe sea it different!



[edit on 14-6-2008 by shipovfools]

This is a nice video related to this subject, although at the end it becomes more conjecture than actual science.

Enjoy the Video!

Perception - The reality beyond matter

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