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reply posted on 2-5-2008 @ 08:43 AM by thefreepatriot
reply to post by MarktheSkepticUK



Your still thinking like an average human.... Do you realize that there is evidence of "them" being here thousands of years? Do you also realize that traveling vasts distances between star systems is easy? by triangulating 3 gravity waveguides to the target they can compress space and time.. And not have to move one inch to get to thousands of light years away... Stop thinking like an average humanoid.. if we were in the 1900s you would probaly be saying its impossible to go to the Moon! its so far! The reality is they do feed on our emotions.. Just do some research. and stop thinking 2 dimensional.


reply posted on 2-5-2008 @ 08:46 AM by thefreepatriot
reply to post by Amaterasu



Even if they did have to travel... it would be no big feat, But they are here, and have been here for a long time.



reply posted on 2-5-2008 @ 10:26 AM by Badge01
Originally posted by thefreepatriot
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post by MarktheSkepticUK



Your still thinking like an average human.... Do you realize that there is evidence of "them" being here thousands of years? Do you also realize that traveling vasts distances between star systems is easy? by triangulating 3 gravity waveguides to the target they can compress space and time.. And not have to move one inch to get to thousands of light years away...


Though your comment has a lot of merit, you have to consider that there is substantial evidence that there are no other Type II or Type III civilizations in our Galaxy.

So while the 'method' you propose is probably valid, 'getting there' is the major problem.

There might be millions of sentient civilizations in our Galaxy. But becoming 'space-faring' is a very steep curve.

Think of the 'space-faring' version of the Drake Equation.

Among the terms are probably things like not having too big a home planet (gravity is too high to escape), having metals in the crust, i.e. close enough to the surface to mine, not being too large a being (again gravity and energy).

It might also include having a large moon, having geothermal energy and having an active process on the home planet to support renewal (plate tectonics and deep ocean currents).

Without those processes, a bio-planet may use up and pollute itself in too short a time to evolve the sentient life.

Finally, you have to take into account Gamma Ray Bursts and Asteroids.

IOW, if the sentient civilization doesn't prepare for an extinction event then it risks a lot. Thus their main goal will be to colonize at least 2-3 nearby planets before ever venturing far. Even a Type III civilization would be vulnerable to a GRB, so they would have to develop a 'far colony' and both types would have to be able to repro their evolution and development from scratch.

It's not just enough for us to have a colony on Mars. If the Earth is destroyed, that colony will not have our capabilities or resources so they wouldn't get off planet again and thus wouldn't last.

Now, given that this curve is so steep, it makes it unlikely that ET has visited us. It may be that the phenomenon we are experiencing as 'Alien Contact' may be something else and not be based on our same reality or it might have nothing to do with traveling vast distances and propulsion or warping space-time.

Just a thought.





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reply posted on 2-5-2008 @ 11:29 PM by thefreepatriot
reply to post by Badge01



you are correct becoming space faring is a very steep curve.. But look at us? to be honest with all the genocide, (im not calling it wars anymore) that goes on in this planet, I am truly surprised we havent blown ourselves up.. Yet we have made it to the moon? probes have reached mars, and beyond, as primitive as they may be this is a huge step, Considering how we are on the edge of destryong ourselves, have we not become someowhat space faring? even if we are using essentially explosions to get us into orbit? We curently have the know how, the technology to colonise mars, and the moon rigjht now. If we could do it..why wouldnt other Alien civilizations be capabable? Imagine if we can survive the next 100 years? Don't be ignorent just like the people who beleived the planet was flat, just like the peopel who beleived we would never fly, just like the people who beleived we would never get to the moon. Do not assume anything based on your "current knowledge" As allot of Military technology is Withheld from us... I suggest you look up somthing called element 115 which was discovered a couple of years ago by Russian Scientists...This element and its properties were correctly described in the early 90s by a physcist that reporedly studied an Alien reactor... The amazing thing was that he was right on.. nearly 20 years before the element was discovered "officially" Wake up buddy your world is not what it seems.
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