The Top 100 Things to Disappear

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posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 09:46 AM
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I did a search of ATS, but did not find a copy of this list, so I'm going to post it. If it does already exists, please feel free to delete it. I thought it might be a good companion piece to my Sarajevo Survival Guide post.

Hope you find it useful.


Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency

1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.)
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. "Survival-in-a-Can"
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Livestock

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posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 09:49 AM
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They forgot camoflage.

Sorry, just had to throw a wrench in it.



posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 09:49 AM
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Wow! What a comprehensive list! Thanks for the link! Did I miss liquor or is it on there?



posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 09:52 AM
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You forgot sanity,

Its normaly the 1st to go, right with the need to be Civil.

Then comes the toilet paper an the beef jerky shortages... then people are like OMG we need to cook food the power isnt just out.... An theres no more grills, matches, paper of any kind. lol

Wow....

Great list. I have most dem items if not alternatives already geared up.

Lets slap the fires an Light the tires...... LOL



posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 09:57 AM
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reply to post by kosmicjack
 
It's there. Item 94. Liquor and the other items listed would also make great barter goods if you have extra.



posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 09:59 AM
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reply to post by LLoyd45
 


Of course I missed it because I would have put it much higher on the list.



posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 10:07 AM
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reply to post by Anti-Tyrant
 
I'm not sure, but I believe this list was once part of a post about the collapse of Argentina several years back. Cammies were probably left off the list, to prevent being singled out as part of a military unit. During civil unrest soldiers aren't very popular.



posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 12:17 PM
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What a sobering thought. As I read thru the list I tried picturing myself using the items in the time of crisis. By the end, I was so disillusioned. I just don't think I could cope with that reality. Then again, when the time comes sometimes you just do. I remember seeing tv footage of people in Sarajevo or somewhere like that burning scrap wood in their apartments to keep warm and cook.
I am a non-gun person. I guess the first thing on my agenda would be to partner up with someone who is! otherwise looters would just help themselves to whatever I stocked up.
don't really want to think about it ...
sigh, just turned my furnace back on its so cold and damp here today, maybe thats why the prospect of not having these comforts is hitting so hard just now.
good post - i think i will keep a copy and start working on it.



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 03:08 PM
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Newspaper.

It is easy to stockpile now, lights well to help get a fire going and will be impossible to find if SHTF.

Just a thought.



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 03:53 PM
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Excellent list. Heavy on the fishing and hunting. I would add a set of high quality frog spears, not those cheap tin ones. the kind with the steel loop welded on for ropes.

Star and flag.



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 04:59 PM
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reply to post by Illahee
 


Frog spears? Years of summer camp has given me the best damn frog spears in the country: my hands.

I can catch one bullfrog in each hand...

...and one in each of my toes.



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 05:04 PM
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Candles way back in 55th place??

That's the biggest surprise..
You wouldn't want to be in a crisis without a candle around.!!

It's like jumping into hyperspace without your handtowel



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 05:38 PM
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reply to post by spines
 


I meant for spearing fish that you shine up on dark nights. Thats why you get the welded ones with barbs and the eye for the rope.



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 08:57 PM
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This is an amateur list... some of the things it lists as disappearing are item most folk have not interest in at all, and some important things are left out. This list is just opinion, not research.



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 09:34 PM
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40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)

LOL


So packs of poodles will be grazing in the country side while auctions for St Bernards and Wolfhounds will be common in the city squares.

Big Dogs, that just cracks me up and I'm not even drinking....yet!!



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 11:23 PM
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Wow, is that what you really "need"?

Personally I'd love to see most of the crap on that list never exist in the first place


I've got a hand axe, a pocketknife, and a scoped 30-06 with a couple boxes of ammo. It's attached to my bag that contains a bedroll. I might have a few matches left. You can all have the rest of the crap i leave behind. i don't plan on bartering for survival items, so i'm not stockpiling. Besides, the skills i carry are way more valuable than a limitless stockpile of anything, and i'd rather not be tied down to a pile of gear that i'll probably never use. I don't use 90% of the stuff on the list as it is, and the few things i do use i can easily do without.

Don't fall into the trap of overpreparing.

Do you need a generator?
If so you need fuel.
and electrical appliances
and security for it all
and a place to store it
and oil
and spark plugs
and tools to maintain it
also fuses
and spare parts like carb jets and needles
and extra fuel line
and primer buttons (they wear out quick)
Don't forget to bring extension cords

Is it worth it? Hardly seems so. What do you "need" electricity for?

You're more likely to have problems trying to obtain stuff you think you need than you will if you do without.

Who else hears your loudassed generator?
Is it worth defending? You could be shot protecting it.

Same thing applies to a lot of the list.

And to food. I can pick up the bucket of rice next to my door if i think i need to tote food with me, and i won't have to change my diet, cause that's what i eat anyway. I don't eat the poison stuff that comes in cans right now,and no animal products at all, why should i eat crap during the apocalypse? I've got more important things to deal with than being sick from eating toxins.

And lanterns and fuel and mantles and all? More stuff to carry for what, to illuminate your position and draw insects?

Actually i do like the list though, because while i'm quietly and peacefully in remote seclusion, all the ignorant and panicked masses will be killing each other off to obtain list items. Keeps them occupied with depopulation and leaves more nature for me to exist in harmony with. I know it sounds cold but it's reality. Somebody will be shooting somebody else in the face over their lantern or generator, somewhere near what used to be civilization and not in a defensible location. I'll be miles deeper in the wilderness, silent and concealed by darkness, where no man would ever drag a generator unless they airlifted it in and where i can see your lights before you see mine, because i really don't use lights. I can operate in starlight after my night vision kicks in, and use breathing exercises to enhance my night vision. I night hike without lights anyway, they're not essential. they actually bother me when someone else is using a light because they kill night vision. Also easier to sneak up on prey without light.

Having a small LED headlight could be handy if you do expect to be operating in subterranean regions. When i'm deep underground i'll take a light, but mostly when i go to the underworld i go to escape daylight and there's small light leaks i use to navigate with and not have to resort to artificial light.



posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 08:58 AM
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We have a limited survival outfit..Contains all we would ever really need and a little more. Don't need much more if we have to move on. If we stay here, what we have will be used up as we prepare to move on. One issue I see with this list is having an extra room to store it all in.. I already have most of this stockpiled for weather related emergencies and it sure takes up a lot of space.



posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 11:08 AM
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Id put at least 2 handguns a collapsable deer rife and a shotgun on the top of the list then food. a genarator is nice but only usefull if you have a fixed location you can defend not to mention few of us are lucky enough to live in the wilderness or out in the desert. my suggestion is,

strike anywere matches
wind proof lighter and fuel
MRE'S
atleast a 2 handguns(id recomend a glock 17 and a 454 casual glock for people and the 454 can handle any northamerican game)
a good rifle a 30/6 would do, for more experienced a .50
and a 12 gauge shotgun with atleast 1000 rds
water purification tabs/iodine tabs
good sized canteen or pack with integrated water system
no less than 4 knives 2 for personal defense, 1 for hunting/prepareing game and 1 as a back up
kevlar vest(if you can get hold of one)
gas mask and 6 sets of filters
L.E.D. flashlights 4 at least(you may lose one of it might break)
learn how to read from a map and compass
thermal clothing
good sturdy boots
3 sets of gloves one with nomex one kevlar on a mix of both
night vision or thermal gogles
bonoculars
thermal blanket(shiny silver blanket folds to size of your palm and cary in pocket)
Cargo pants(mainly for extra pockets for storage and carry ammo, gasmasks, etc cameo would be good but anything will do)
Gulie suit(could be usefull)
pill bottles/film canister store matches pills hooks and weights for fishing
200 ft of military garde rope/cord
high test fishing line 2000 yrds(trap games/use as restraits on humans
and of course a good med kit



posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 02:05 PM
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Excellent list, thanks Lloyd! I think this was first put together by Joseph Almond www.josephprep.com... and then later endorsed by Stan and Holly Deyo.

My take on it....... there's a wealth of tradable items in there, and things that perhaps folks wouldn't be inclined to try and kill a person for. I fancy myself the toilet paper czar. Yeah, I know. It needs work as a title. I hear folks say they can use nearly everything as a substitute, and as a person who has had occasion to use nearly everything one or twice, I can tell you that unless a person is prepared to continually waste water cleaning a cloth, there really is no viable substitute for TP. I had to laugh with a buddy of mine who pondered the use of pinecones. Yeah, and make certain to have a bunch of rubber gloves too. We keep 3 cases (198/case) in jumbo ziplocks.

I think many of the items are what I'd call "short-term SitX needs", in that they won't likely be usable in the long run..... i.e. generators. Same goes for paper plates and the like. I'd rather keep a couple dozen stackable sectioned plastic plates, and wash them in the sea.

I fancy keeping a good stock of hand tools, and tools to keep them sharp and honed. Seeds, I think a very undervalued commodity. I just got another 12 bricks of Cuban espresso today -- vaccum packed in foil bricks. I get uncomfortable when we get below 3 dozen bricks


Good thread



posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 02:14 PM
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AAA rechargeable batteries and a small solar recharger. I'm with you on the LED headlights. Some of them we have are even waterproof, and none of them are expensive.

I think a lot of the dividing line for many people is whether they imagine bugging out or staying at home. I have the luxury of having chosen to make my stand here. Certainly if a person might need to bugout, they should be choosing their potential directions, possibly even laying in a cache or two.

Main thing for us is there's noplace to bugout TO. If we're under invasive attack, we're screwed. I think most folks have more choices, and hopefully all are thinking about their options, several difference scenarios, and have put together their primary bugout kit.

I personally think the reality for the MAJORITY Of people -- certainly not all -- is that a bugout in a SitX might well put them in a more vulnerable position, particularly if they are moving into unfamiliar territory. I think it makes sense to have prepared aliances with trusted people well prior to any events. I've said it before ----- worst case is you save money on goods that you're going to use anyway.

Cheers





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