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The Architects of the NWO were Noah's Sons

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posted on Apr, 29 2008 @ 09:07 AM
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Oh, I forgot. Throw in catch words like Socialism, Capitalism, Communism, Atheism. Let them fight among themselves, and let us stand back and watch the spectacle and reap the benefits after they destroy themselves!




posted on Apr, 29 2008 @ 09:09 AM
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This post goes to prove the point I was trying to make.

 

Ok, quick theologic debate here
The god portrayed by the old testament was not a nice diety; Expulsion from the garden of eden, the flood, the confusion of languages and the dispersion of humans, soddom and gomorah, lots wife, what he did with the plagues in Egypt, making people wander around a desert for 40 years without a freaking map, passover, sending his own son down as a sacrafice, sending souls to hell. Clearskies, the god in the bible is not exactly Mr. Friendly. Heck Revelations states that it will be God that is going to destroy the earth (send the four horsemen of the appocolypse) Seriously god is not nice at all.
 


Yes I have heard about the things that occur at the bohemian grove, and this also goes along with my point. It could be that the architects of the plan and the plan itself has been bastardized throughout the ages by corrupt people.

I am not saying either protects us but that this is the plan.



posted on Apr, 29 2008 @ 09:17 AM
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Good Grannies!
Do you know WHY God brought the flood???

It was because of mating between the fallen angels and HUMANS.
Also the unspeakable EVIL they were doing!


Gen 6:1 ¶ And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.

Gen 6:5 ¶ And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually.

Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Gen 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

Gen 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
The forbidden Legacy of a fallen race



posted on Apr, 29 2008 @ 09:36 AM
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:::SIGH::: The creation of the Nephilim was an abomination of the SONS of God, Not neccissaraly angels or fallen angels which is a different rank and file in the heavenly order.

Also to give a creature free will and then destroying them for the implementation of that free will, wouldnt this be rather hypocritical of a supposed loving deity?

Remeber obviously Jesus is the son of god along with the rank and file of the sons of god that mated with humans in order to create the nephilim. The angelic hosts are not of the same level as Jesus.

But lets really not go into a theologic debate here. (although admitedly this goes part and parcel to this theory of mine.)

The Architects of the plan, made it for survival sake, and also for the reunification of all of mankind. Over the centuries this plan being known by only a select few may have changed it to be more along the lines of the evil plan shown today.

Remember perhaps as much as 6000 years have elapsed between the origination of the NWO plan and today have passed. In all of that time it is quite possible (rather probable) that the ones that are the keepers of the plan have changed it over the years to fit more with what they feel is right for them. The elite who now controll the origional plan probably would only want to save those of their own ilk.

Oh and to quickly dismantle this argument before it pops up (the only begotten son) Begotten son ment Birthed son. As the son's of god were normaly created by god not birthed on this level of existance.


Begotten

Be*get"\, v. t. [imp. Begot, (Archaic) Begat; p. p. Begot, Begotten; p. pr. & vb. n. Begetting.] [OE. bigiten, bigeten, to get, beget, AS. begitan to get; pref. be- + gitan. See Get, v. t. ]

1. To procreate, as a father or sire; to generate; -- commonly said of the father.
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Son's of god were normaly willed into existance as god did for the earth and of the angelic hosts. Jesus however was birthed or sired into existance.

[edit on 4/29/2008 by whatukno]



posted on Apr, 29 2008 @ 09:59 AM
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To the OP, you're on the right track.
The Tower of Babel was the post-flood humanity's ultimate symbol of apostasy against God (backed up by Satan, of cource). It was the first epicenter of false worship on earth, from which the oppressive rule of Satan would have ultimately consumed every inhabitant. God obviosly could not let that happen, so He confused the languages and set Satan's plan of a religion-backed NWO back for thousands of years. This gave birth to the symbol language of the occult, because they wanted an language that God 'couldn't' confuse again.

BTW, Nimrod is hailed as the Great Architect, or the Great Mason by Freemasonry's ESOteric teaching. It says so in one of their books (Morals & Dogma, or Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, can't remember which one)

Satan and his goons on earth are now building the same NWO after that setback, and they are going to succeed to a point where God intervenes (Revelation). God hasn't done anything because he has to let Satan's plan to bear fruit, so he can establish the fact that He is the only one we should worship. This is also the reason why God lets people suffer - Satan must be given a chance so he can be proved wrong for eternity. It is a universal precedent, if you will.

They will try to establish a world government, backed up by a ecumenical, united religion (the Babylonian one). This would be the goal they tried to reach back then, and they would succeed, but this time God puts in their minds the urge to turn on religion and destroy it (Whore of Babylon is devoured by the beast it rided, which is the political system of this world). This then commences the Great Tribulation and ultimately Armageddon.

Bit of topic, but couldn't stop writing



posted on Apr, 29 2008 @ 10:07 AM
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I've never understood how 6 or so people come off the ark and start a mass civilisation in about 100 years leading up to the tower of babel.


That's some serious inbreeding.

No wonder we all turned out so bad if we are related to them



posted on Apr, 29 2008 @ 10:15 AM
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Because in all of that, not all of humanity was contained within the ark, there were others that survived the deluge and so there was enough genetic diversity as to not cause that much mutation.

So here we are at Babel, people frightnened and terrorised by a really pissed off deity, (supposedly) scrambling for survival create a tower. Do you think that they just made the tower in order to stave off another possible attack by an angry god?

Heck god was scared enough by the acts of humanity that it decided to scatter them all over the place and confuse the languages.

Do you think that someone along the way might have noticed this and created a plan in order to reunite people under one language and one flag so that the creation of the tower could continue? They obviously didnt continue the construction when Babel became Babellon. But perhaps the plan went into hiding throughout the ages to be implemented today.



posted on Apr, 29 2008 @ 10:34 AM
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Quite plausable, as in my OP I did not state that it was not an act of satan that the NWO plan came into existance. It very well could be. I only stated that the NWO plan came into existance after the flood. So it is quite possible that this is a satanic plan.

 
However in the old testament satan really isn't a key player. In Genisis the serpant is the one that tempts Eve with the forbiden fruit. (again as I said in annother thread "thanks a freaking lot for that Eve."
) The Bible does not say that the serpant was posessed by satan. as evident by god punnishment of the serpant. If the serpant was posessed by satan wouldnt god understand that and not punnish the beast?
 


Anywho it could be that satan was working in the background and supplied this idea to man.


[edit on 4/29/2008 by whatukno]



posted on Apr, 30 2008 @ 05:29 PM
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Thanks for your reply!
There may have been an plan of a NWO PRE-flood, we don't know. We only know that modern political and religious systems date back to that original Babylonian system. As for Satan, he indeed had posessed the serpent to deceive man.
Revelation 12:9; So down the great dragon was hurled, _the original serpent_, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.

Satan was actually cast down to earth much later, but he did make resistance to God in heaven for a long time before that and most certainly tried to deceive people the whole time, right up to the flood and after.

Revelation 12:10;
And I heard a loud voice in heaven say:“Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God!

As for the cursing of the actual serpent, God had created it already as it was, and the curse was obviously directed at Satan and his 'lowered' position as a demon in Tartaros, which is the spiritual state where demons aren't part of heaven anymore. Satan afterall had been a powerful angel in heaven before that!
Ezekiel 28:13; In Eden, the garden of God, you proved to be. Every precious stone was your covering, ruby, topaz and jasper; chrysolite, onyx and jade; sapphire, turquoise and emerald; and of gold was the workmanship of your settings and your sockets in you. In the day of your being created they were made ready.
14 You are the anointed cherub that is covering, and I have set you. On the holy mountain of God you proved to be. In the midst of fiery stones you walked about.
15 You were faultless in your ways from the day of your being created until unrighteousness was found in you.


Of course it is just my view of the matter, but it is biblical and after all as Revelation 12:9 said before; 'Satan, who IS misleading the ENTIRE inhabited earth', the idea of a New World Order sounds like a nice system to control the 'cattle'...



posted on Apr, 30 2008 @ 10:45 PM
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Boy I would really love to get away from the biblical aspect of this theory however it seems to be heading in that direction no matter what I do.
 


So we get beyond the flood, and the tower of babel. Lets see what about hiding the plan in the great library or perhaps by the sphinx? Any thoughts? what about the mystery cult's connection with the NWO? And what about using the Freemasons and the Illuminati as scapegoats and fraternal boot camps for the elite?

Anything besides god or the devil. I seriously have my hands full at the moment with these two already.



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 10:57 PM
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Thankyou so much for those links on the tower and the Bible study....

talk about solid GOLD...
...!!!...
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May I STRONGLY recommend reading a book called, "the curse of canaan"

Clearly you love this stuff, and so do I, so then you will find the curse of canaan to be a blessing...





I can't wait to see what else I'm gonna find on this thread...

[edit on 5-6-2008 by toasted]



posted on Jun, 6 2008 @ 01:09 PM
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You start out saying this ;


"" The Architects of the NWO were Noah's Sons ""

then you say...

"" Boy I would really love to get away from the biblical aspect of this theory ""

Huh?!?! [ sounds like scooby doo ]


You better make up your mind.....


Anyways,

The truth is, it's not so much that they were the architects, but more precisely one of them for sure was an enabler...because any design that is going to enslave man is a design of satan, and satan must use his influence on man in order to achieve what he wants.

Noah cursed Canaan, but really Canaan cursed himself from his behavior. Noah just agreed that he was cursed. Sure he declared it, but again, it was based on his actions, which were influenced by satan.

Have you ever heard of the Will of Canaan? It is only found in one place, the Babylonian Talmud, and it reads like this;

"Love one another [ that is, of this tribe only ], love robbery, love lewdness, hate your masters, and do not speak the truth. " Pes. 113b.

That is their Creed. And this is the origin the bloodline for the powers of the earth who enslave, make wars, lie, cheat ,steal, coerce and more, so they can get their way! From the Canaanites to the phonecians to the venetians to the black nobility, to blending in where they are only known, by what they do, not by what they say. [ unless of course you catch the contradictions and lies or omissions ] That should be a hint towards the behavior of real rulers of this planet...

You want to read more? Read the Curse of Canaan.



posted on Jun, 6 2008 @ 01:20 PM
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well, I was looking at this whole thing through the historical point of view. there is a lot of evidence that a massive flood type event did occur in the past. So I had to use the account of Noah cause that is what people are familiar with.

But the rest of history does not necessarily reflect just biblical accounts. There is actual documented history beyond the bible that I was looking to try and use.

What about the library at Alexandria? or the mystery of the room under the sphinx. What would have to transpire in order for those that survived the flood to ensure that a one world government went on beyond their time? Who were the architects? what is the grand plan? has it changed?

These are the questions. The flood is just the starting point. The flood is a focus to try and bring up these questions to see if throughout time this plan did in fact exist and who key players were in the plan and maybe if the plan had in fact changed over time.

Beyond the bible there is actual history that can be traced and researched. Perhaps a slight clue into the founding of the NWO is something that needs to be discussed.

Unfortunately people in this thread got stuck debating the flood and I wanted to go on past that throughout history to see if there is actual evidence to support the idea of a new world order plan throughout history.

Something beyond the bible beyond the flood, we have discussed that already what happened between that point and this point what happened throuout history? Thats what I was trying to get past the bible about.



posted on Jun, 6 2008 @ 01:45 PM
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"" Perhaps a slight clue into the founding of the NWO is something that needs to be discussed. ""


Well, I gave you a pretty big clue. I guess you either didn't read past my first comment or you just disagree. Which is it?



posted on Jun, 6 2008 @ 02:58 PM
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the Curse of Canaan seems to fit into this lil theory of mine, is it based on fact or is it based on some forgotten thing?

I mean it does appear to tie in. Perhaps your onto something here


This is exactly why I was trying to get away from just the noah story.



posted on Jun, 6 2008 @ 10:32 PM
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Well, the only way you'll know, is to read the book;

www.amazon.com...=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212809491&sr=8-1



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 09:01 AM
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So anyway beyond the freaking tower already, what about a super secret society bent on world domination hidden throughout the ages only to implement their plan today?


yes



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 04:03 PM
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mind elaborating?
I mean yes, and? We can find the solution to this puzzle together if we work at it. But to get this idea any creedence at all were going to need some shred of proof.




posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 09:55 PM
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I agree with you whatukno, that the ancient Babylonian mystery religion is the basis for the beliefs of the modern occult elite. And though clearly you believe differently, it’s rebellion against God that is the foundation for wanting to rule the world in this way. The same kind of rebellion against God that is evident when you speak of Him as being so angry and evil. All God has done is to give us free will to screw up if we choose to. Would you prefer to be a programmed automaton, carrying out your predetermined role? The only alternative is to allow evil to exist if we choose it. All God did in the great flood was to reset the world to give us another chance. Would you prefer to have never existed? God does not send anyone to hell. People choose to spend eternity without God by their rejection of Him. After all, it wouldn’t be heaven if it were full of demons now would it? Hell is a horrible place because of the absence of God, just as the presence of God is the only thing that makes this world livable. WE have screwed up this world that God gave us dominion over; the devil made me do it?

Might I suggest The Two Babylons?

www.biblebelievers.com...



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:46 PM
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cool, religious debate ----------------------> that way (please note, not a pro god anti god theory being discussed here)
 


What point you did bring up that was interesting was the babelonian mystery religions. Now we know that this spawned off a lot of different sects that we know today as secret societies. Is there per chance a sect that can be directly tied back to this group and perhaps extorts controll over the other groups?




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