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reply posted on 1-5-2008 @ 11:29 AM by Daedalus3
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Dude.. I have abs no idea what you're talking about.
Or at least I think I do but I hope its not that.
Are you generalizing in all foreign a/c sales or is this specific to the Gripen?
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reply posted on 2-5-2008 @ 05:42 AM by C0bzz
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Oh ffs LOL.
Are you people even interesting in planes or do you just compare them for some reason? LOL.
I mean, it would be strange if a Swedish aircraft entered service for the Indian airforce. No technical reason, or one with many basis, apart from my
opinion that it would be like china flying the F-22.
Get me? Stupid reason i know.
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reply posted on 2-5-2008 @ 01:48 PM by Daedalus3
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Originally posted by C0bzz
Oh ffs LOL.
Are you people even interesting in planes or do you just compare them for some reason? LOL.
I mean, it would be strange if a Swedish aircraft entered service for the Indian airforce. No technical reason, or one with many basis, apart from my
opinion that it would be like china flying the F-22.
Get me? Stupid reason i know. 
Well I'm sure you know that the Gripen is already flying in the:
Czech Air Force
Hungarian Air Force
South African Air Force
Does that raise the same 'strange' emotions in you or is it specific to Western fighters in non-western air forces?
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reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 03:40 AM by Anonymous ATS
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India has one of the best Air-Forces in the world today and PAK-FA 5th generation plane would soon be entering the Indian Air Force in next 5-10
years.
The post 'hope Gripen NG never enters Indian Air force (IAF)' is slightly childish to say the least....The person who made this comment needs to
wake up and smell the coffee.
India is a trillion dollar plus economy and has a indigenous LCA programme which is as good if not better than Gripen ...so IAF would not miss Gripen
much if Gripen does not enter IAF.
With countries like USA, Russia, France etc competing for MRCA order, if Gripen does not get the order, it will be entirely Gripen's loss....
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reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 04:07 AM by stumason
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What? Stranger than American, British or Russian aircraft?
India only has a fledgling aircraft industry so cannot really produce their own that match anything on offer from Western suppliers.
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reply posted on 3-7-2008 @ 12:00 PM by Harlequin
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an update thats related:
www.flightglobal.com...
 The Netherlands has expanded its search for a new fighter to also include the Saab Gripen NG (Next Generation), but has eliminated the Boeing
F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor from its search for a Lockheed F-16 replacement, says undersecretary of defence Jack de
Vries.
As part of an agreement by the Dutch parliament to sign the memorandum of understanding for investing in the initial operational test and evaluation
phase of Lockheed's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter programme, the defence ministry agreed to conduct a full comparison of all possible alternatives before
coming to a final decision.
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reply posted on 3-7-2008 @ 11:41 PM by Jezza
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why dont you sign up then?????
If your so passionate about this topic
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reply posted on 4-7-2008 @ 12:01 AM by Dan Tanna
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reply posted on 4-7-2008 @ 01:36 AM by C0bzz
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LOL!
So true....  LCA is a peice of junk, I don't care what you compare it to, even a Sopwith Camel, it's still junk!
Thanks!
[edit on 4/7/2008 by C0bzz]
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reply posted on 4-7-2008 @ 06:09 AM by Daedalus3
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Originally posted by C0bzz
So true....  LCA is a peice of junk, I don't care what you compare it to, even a Sopwith Camel, it's still junk!
Thanks!
[edit on 4/7/2008 by C0bzz] 
well to the Indians it may be better than the Gripen or the frakking F-22 even because its a technology growth spurt point; a point which is
eventually going to
develop into a military industry that is self sufficient, and does not warrant foreign support.
And with this independence, countries will be able to execute independent foreign policy; They will not have submit to the whims and fancies of the
geo strategic ambitions of a powerful few.
This in the long run is much more capable than a Gripen (which runs on a GE F404 btw and so only sold to countries as approved by the US of A) or even
the F-35 which is locked with software codes that only again the US is privy to; irrespective of which country it is sold to.
Thanks and happy 4th of July ye all
DD3
EDIT: Hey and btw if any of you LCA bashers ever bother to compare the Gripen and the LCA for stats: T/W, radar, weapons suites available etc. please
let me know. We can have an educated discussion on that, in the true traditions of ATS, denying ignorance et al .
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reply posted on 4-7-2008 @ 06:26 AM by Harlequin
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i do concur - the LCA is vital to the Indian air industry , not from a capability point of view , but in the advancement of technology.
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reply posted on 4-7-2008 @ 07:42 AM by C0bzz
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EDIT: Hey and btw if any of you LCA bashers ever bother to compare the Gripen and the LCA for stats: T/W, radar, weapons suites available etc. please
let me know. We can have an educated discussion on that, in the true traditions of ATS, denying ignorance et al . 
Sure.
I just need to do the thread about the RAAF / F-35 that I promised to do.
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reply posted on 4-7-2008 @ 10:31 AM by Daedalus3
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Originally posted by C0bzz
Sure.
I just need to do the thread about the RAAF / F-35 that I promised to do. 
by all means..
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reply posted on 4-7-2008 @ 11:52 AM by Anonymous ATS
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reply posted on 4-7-2008 @ 06:16 PM by Jezza
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something new....
Eurofighter, Rafale Refuse to Play in New Dutch Evaluation.
The Netherlands is launching another evaluation of potential alternatives to the Lockheed Martin F-35A Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) -- but the companies
behind two of them (Eurofighter and Dassault Aviation) have turned down the Dutch request to provide updated information on their Typhoon Batch 3 and
Rafale F4, respectively.
Dutch state secretary for defense procurement Jack de Vries has told Parliament, one day before it departed for its two-month summer recess, that he
"hopes to visit the manufacturers of the Eurofighter and the Rafale in the near future to convince them of the importance of an updated contribution
to the new evaluation."
linky
with nice pictures.
seems like a bit of a show in the scheme of things.
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reply posted on 4-7-2008 @ 06:52 PM by Harlequin
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www.defense-aerospace.com...
 On July 2 the aircraft manufacturers Dassault Aviation, EADS and Gripen International deposited, within the specified deadline, their offers for
the aircraft that will partially replace the fleet of Tigers. This confirms that the program is progressing according to plans.
thats the swiss bid - boeing are disqualified now because they never showed up
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reply posted on 4-7-2008 @ 09:05 PM by Jezza
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boeing u would think would be first in line with the rhino
they already have legacy hornets?????
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