There were some specific questions being brought up over in
this thread that were
getting off topic...So I'm posting replies here. This is probably the best thread to move to, in order to prevent any more derailing of the other
thread.
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Originally posted by Taledus
If child support cases deal with criminal actions for not paying child support, in statutory jurisdiction, then they are null and void if the
defindant is not provided with the rules of the court, thus not understanding the charges?
"...they can't try you criminally if you don't understand the charge. That would be automatically a reversible error on
appeal."
Basically, yes. The questions being asked in the "USAvsUS" paragraph you referenced were not really a question of the charges themselves, but of the
court procedures that cover criminal jurisdiction of those charges under Statutory Law...But it also mentioned that there
are no such
procedures, at least procedures that are available to the public. The real root is that that we have the Right to be able to defend ourselves in
court, but to do so we must have access to the court procedures pertaining to the particular charges brought to us. No procedures for us, no
understanding of the charges.
But they also reiterate time & again (& so do I) that you really need to check it all out with a lawyer
before you step into a courtroom...You
really have to know where you're going in a courtroom or you'll wind up taking a fall faster than a blind man walking towards an open manhole.
Originally posted by Taledus
Some more questions...if someone gets thier birth certificate corrected, returns thier SS# card, and claims to be soverign, what about getting medical
insurance? What do you do if you are sick and have no insurance due to not having a SS card...or even car insurance because every time I have gotten
insurance they have required a SS#.
To correct the Birth Certificate, you must first get it changed into a Record of Live Birth...This way, your birth is officially
recorded, but
not
registered. It's the registration process that deems you to be government property.
About the SS Card: It doesn't work to merely "claim your sovereignty" when you turn it in...You must use UCC 1-203 & UCC 1-207 (the Remedy &
Recourse Clauses) to make it known that you were never given "full disclosure" to the imposed obligations that are inherent in that contract.
That webpage states several times that you must be humble & show respect to the judge, showing that you respect his superior knowledge of the law
(such as it is).
Basically, use of an affidavit is known as a Statement of Fact, duly entered into record...Judges can forego having a witness personally show up in
court, taking an affidavit as equal to a sworn tesitimony.
To reserve your Rights (as far as the SS Card goes), you must include the facts of Law (in this case, UCC 1-207) to state that you did not have full
disclosure...If you're under the age of 18, then you must state that your parents didn't have disclosure, but you also have to wait until you're 18
to get rid of your SS Card anyway. You must include that fact that you never had full disclosure of the obligatory terms & conditions of the SS
contract...And if you had been duly informed, you never would have given your signature.
You should also include statements of what those undisclosed terms were...Such as, the contract defined you as a 14th Amendment citizen when you
didn't even understand that there was a difference from your Birthright (State) Citizenship. This & other facts about that contract that you've
learned should all be included in your affidavit, along with other facts you've learned.
Notice that, to be "official," every affidavit must have the official witness of a Notary Public & filed with the appropriate offices...Most
commonly, your County Records Office. Then also include a challenge for any Government Officer to contest against your facts with their facts: You
must also impose at least a 30 day time limit on any answers to that challenge.
If there
are any challenges to your affidavit, you'll have to respond in kind...Filing more affidavits that use the facts of Law in response
to their challenge! For each time you may have to respond, reiterate that you'll impose a 30 day time limit for them to answer your facts. However,
if any imposed time limit passes without any challenges, then your affidavit stands up as factual testimony in any courtroom. Even further, you can
impose monetary penalties on anyone who tries to challenge your affidavit in a courtroom
after the time limit is passed...Simply because any
argument they try to use to drag you into court will be thrown out by the judge & you can thereby penalize them for unlawfully wasting time for you &
the court!
I don't remember the exact source at the moment, but there's someone who has successfully charged $2000 per hour (& portion of an hour), plus any
legal/court expenses incurred, against any & every individual "official" who tried to unlawfully waste their time in court! This may help cut down
on how many times someone may try to drag you into court: After all, most courthouses are merely fund-raising organizations under "color of law"
(ie: not Common Law Courts) & they will be loathe to bother anyone who can legally charge
them with penalties!
Over
here is a good example of an affidavit that someone has already used...It specifies for
a Citizen of Iowa (No, this is not mine & that's not my name on it: I have yet to prepare mine & this happened to be the single best example I've
found to date that I can work with), so you may have to consult an attorney to get it modified for your State & your needs, but this example pretty
much covers all of the main points to rescind federal citizenship while still reserving all of your Common Law Rights & still interacting with
Statutory Law when you need to. Let's face it, you'll still need to enter into contracts under commercial laws from time to time & it's best to
reserve your Rights ahead of time (as well as including "All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice UCC 1-207 with your signature on any contracts).
Originally posted by Taledus
...what about getting medical insurance? What do you do if you are sick and have no insurance due to not having a SS card...or even car insurance
because every time I have gotten insurance they have required a SS#.
Well, that's true that they will try to get your SS#. But it's illegal...They contract with the federal government & try to use "color of law" to
get your SSN#. Whenever they try to do this, slap on of
these on 'em! You can use it to get a
job, because "employers" are not required by law to act as a tax-withholding agent! Do not fill out the W-4 Form...It's a contract that declares
your
voluntary status to pay taxes!
If you've already rescinded your federal citizenship (ie: turned in your SS Card), then you must ask them for a written statement that declares that
they will not provide you with any insurance policy
because you lack an SSN: Make sure that you get the signature of an actual Agent or Manager
on the statement. The same holds true for auto-insurance: If you've already asserted your Right to Travel Freely (Affidavits, again!), they won't
give you a policy without a Driver's License...This is because most States require Drivers to carry proof of insurance, so hand over the insurance
company's statement instead of proof of insurance: If you have a trust fund (see below) that provides the equivalent of insurance then show that to
the cop when he asks for your proof of insurance.
However, if you really have a need for
some kind of insurance in the case of an emergency, you have to remember that you won't be able to get
insurance from the government that you've been liberated from! So you have to provide for yourself...This is what it
really means to reclaim
your freedom, ya' know!
You'll have to set up some kind of self-perpetuating trust fund, specified to pay out for your particular needs: You may even have to set up multiple
funds for different needs, but it
can be accomplished with only one fund if you're careful. Be warned that the initial setup is going to take
a sizable chunk of money.
Even if you have all of your needs covered through the specifications, be certain to include clauses that will name beneficiaries or heirs, just in
case there's something left over after you're dead & the bills are all paid! If you leave that out, there's no telling who will get that
money...Probably your State government or the law/financing firm that arranged for & holds your funds!
I also must reiterate that you can't just take my word for anything...Talk this out with a lawyer before you do anything. I won't be held
responsible if you muck it up without seeking
professional consultation. If you have trouble finding a Common Law lawyer (which seems likely),
try searching for Article III Courts & lawyers in your area. They should be able to help you find an Article III lawyer for consultation.