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posted on Apr, 27 2008 @ 10:05 AM
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Israeli ex-soldiers expose abuse of Palestinians


www.csmonitor.com

Efrati describes numerous actions he witnessed on a regular basis. One involves locking an entire family into one room, and then using the rest of the house – the roof included – as a base. He says that in one such mission, in the village of Tarkumiyeh near Hebron, soldiers stayed overnight. Additional jeeps with sirens came in the morning, trying to draw a crowd. When the stones started flying, soldiers were able to shoot from the roof.

Michael Manekin, one of the leaders of Breaking the Silence, which has collected testimonies from more than 500 soldiers, says that's a "fixed procedure." Efrati says the only explanation given for the operation is that there were "a lot of terrorists in the village." He says that on one occasion where he witnessed clear violation of policy – he saw an army comrade hitting someone who was already handcuffed and calm, he complained to his commander. The answer? "Let's leave the dirty laundry in the company."
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posted on Apr, 27 2008 @ 10:05 AM
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39 soldiers confessed that they've witnessed (and been involved in) the torture & killing of a great amount of Palestinians, who either revolted against them because they had to defend & protect themselves from the Israeli troops, who have destroyed & killed members of their families & their homes.

Many of those insane Israeli soldiers (which have been reported) have hunted for patriotic Palestinian children and when they found them, they quickly shot them dead. Those soldiers are very well-known for shooting at people without warning, and killing people for peacefully protesting the wars & crimes happening in their homeland:

Israeli (Global/Fascist Elite) Military shoot own people


This shows exactly what a global elitist backed military will do in the US (well the US military will also shoot Americans i.e. Kent State etc.).

It is not often that videos like this come to the publics attention but it shows what so much of the wealth of the US and its people goes to support and expand.

The globalists who control the Israeli military and who lobby and use unethical practices to gain support, are what is wrong in the middle East and in the world.

In the future, protesting by civilians in the US about the theft of tax dollars to kill innocent people and steal land/resources (going to corporate interests not the US people) will result in the same use of force and violence towards those who wish peace.

We sincerely have little time and they will do anything to maintain their lies as truth, cover their deceit and advance their criminal activity.

Israel is and always was a corporate controlled/owned country. What they do and what they stand for is based upon the wants of corporations, not a people. This is evident once again in this video as the true peaceful people in this video are Israeli and the corporate backed military and their ignorant peons in their battle uniforms attack them, who are the terrorist in this video and who has always been the terrorist? It is not people it is those who are controlled and abet corporate interests.

I implore people to stop supporting Israel and their aggressive criminal actions, these are not the actions of a people but that of a corporation that has kidnapped a religion, a faith and built an economic power through an alliance with the world central banking and is merely a tool in the big production, it is all a lie that they live and promote to us to believe.

Those who fight it, who are the true owners of the faith and the religion are silenced quickly in a concerted effort by those who abet the global elite. They meet a fate that is similar to that of the innocent Palestinian peoples.

Stand up and be counted and realize that the government is being directed by the global elite agenda that has nothing to do with humanity or of fairness or anything that has to do with rights of people.

The entire state is based upon and has been established solely to promote and abet criminal activity which is meant to defraud the world and promote a false history which allows the global elites to use so many more tools against the ignorant people of the world.

The fascist state in Israel is also being promoted and secured within the US and they will (US Military is controlled by corps) shoot Americans like their globalist counterparts.

The time to wake up is now if you are not aware of the lies and deception they have brought upon man so as they may rule over those who are dumb enough to accept their lies and cowards towards securing truth and awakening people to what they do in the name of greed and lust for power and control.

They are what is wrong with life today and the world will not know peace until they have been removed from influence and power over people, industry or any other matter that concerns cooperative living amongst all people of this planet.

The meek are capable of peace but the global elites know nothing of peace as it goes against all they need and require to be in the position they are working towards.

They will kill us all if they can not control us, this is truth.


Why the Mid-East Bleeds

Google Video Link


Theodore Wilson Pike’s analysis of the conflicts in the Middle East.


www.csmonitor.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Apr, 27 2008 @ 10:40 AM
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The US/Britain created this state to appease a sector following WWII and continues to support Israel in this genocide. I'm afraid its my opinion that the second video only highlights the additional problem that helps perpetuate and move focus from the US/European International sponsored terrorism i.e. Religion and ALL those that hide behind it through ignorance or otherwise.



posted on Apr, 27 2008 @ 11:43 AM
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I see what you mean. A lot of people are exposing exactly what you mentioned in your previous message (above).

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posted on Apr, 27 2008 @ 02:59 PM
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Oh, I've read several true stories about the soldiers working for Zionists. They're just hired to be: aggressive, kill innocent people (especially, arabs; palestinians & lebanese) & stay loyal to their corrupted-government, which they gladly serve:

Related-stories & videos:
 


Palestinian family killed by Israeli Zionist soldiers


Zionist Thugs Beating Up Jewish Rabbis

Zionist Israeli Thugs are beating up and using tasers on members of the Orthodox Jewish Faith Neturei Karta.

Anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews protesting the desecration of graves by a highway construction project near Haifa were attacked and brutally beaten by private security guards hired by the Ministry of Transportation.

The group, known for being outspokenly critical of the State of Israel and its very existence were peacefully demonstrating at the time. This attack follows a long history of violence against the Orthodox Jewish community.

Consistent with fundamental Jewish beliefs, some of these protesters often take part in demonstrations, side by side with Palestinians, against the State of Israel and its inhuman policies toward the Palestinian people." The apparent strategy of using organized violence through private security personnel against these peaceful protesters is only one of many tactics used by the State of Israel to intimidate and discourage further protests. The police were nowhere to be found at the time or even hours after the melee. Several Rabbis and children were attacked with electric stun gun devices and knives, requiring some to be hospitalized.

Among the injured were Rabbi Leibl Deutsch and Rabbi Yisroel Rothchild, both of Jerusalem who were stabbed in the lower back and leg respectively. The Jewish cemetery at the heart of the incident dates back to the Second Temple era, over 2000 years ago.Some of the caves that comprise the cemetery have been destroyed as a result of the ongoing highway work and there are heightened fears of further desecration as the highway project continues unabated.



Israeli Soldiers Shoot at Journalists (English)

Al jazeera/Al Arabiya - July 5, 2007 - Emad Ghanem, a journalist working for Hamas' satellite channel Al-Aqsa TV, was filming near the al-Barij refugee camp in the east during Thursday's raid when he was hit by Israeli gunfire.

After falling to the ground, video footage showed him being hit by several more shots before fellow journalists came to his aid.

He was eventually carried off and both his legs were amputated in hospital.

In a separate incident around the same incursion, Israeli soldiers fired on a rooftop where several journalists, including a Reuters camera crew, were filming. No one was injured.

Also during Thursday's raid, Azmi Abu Dalal, a Palestinian ambulance worker, said Israeli forces seized him and several colleagues when they tried to evacuate a wounded Palestinian man from a security post Hamas fighters had been using.

Abu Dalal said soldiers used them as "human shields" to exit the area.

English.AlJazeera.net



The Killing Zone - the reality of Palestinian suffering


[edit on 27-4-2008 by alittlehuman]



posted on Apr, 27 2008 @ 03:24 PM
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This is truly a form of "ethnic cleansing". Israelis have total control. They pop up "settlements" by tearing down pali's homes sometimes while they are still inside, and take over the land and kill indescriminatly, This is like the china tibet problem and the holocaust put together. It is a myth that they have been fighting for ages and will continue to. This started when israelis began immagrating in 1914 and got bad around 1945



posted on Apr, 27 2008 @ 04:39 PM
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I don't know what to say as I am so truely enraged and tearful...how can we as people allow this to happen? The world spoke in unison "never again" at the sight of the genocidal atrocities committed during WWII...

Yet this same nation state of Israel that holds that memory of holocaust over the heads of others commits the same barbarity they so loudly proclaim should never be allowed to happen again




posted on Apr, 27 2008 @ 04:49 PM
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There seems to be a calculated attempt to destabilise the middle east being carried out by israel and the us. These videos as well as other videos i have seen about us soldiers humiliating and provoking iraqui civilians are disturbing to say the least. It seems to me as though these military groups are being encouraged to push these peoples backs against the wall to provoke a reaction, then when that reaction occurs they have an excuse to excercise brute force on these mostly unarmed people. Why? who knows, is Israel looking for a "legitimate" reason to take more palestinian territory, Is $100 a barrel for oil not enough for the backers of bush's regime, I think there are agendas here and that no-one is looking to diffuse the situation because trouble in the middle east is good for business.

These videos are shocking, bush's "war of terror" provides a convenient excuse for this to continue,

Who are the real terrorists here?



posted on Apr, 27 2008 @ 06:25 PM
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First of ChadAndrewATS great post !!!!!!!!!!!!, but sadly i cannot believe that the total genocide of the Palestinians is still aloud to continue
. One would think the holocaust survivors would be the last to then go and carry out the THE EXACT same thing to the
Palestinians ?.



posted on Apr, 27 2008 @ 09:38 PM
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It truly is a sad world indeed. I would like to note that mostly the right wing Israelis and their goverment parties are forcing this on the Palestinians. Their right wing goverment parties are just as bad as the neocons are here. There are some from the left who are against these kinds of crimes and are actually asking for investigations into goverment abuses on the Palestinians.

I believe Ariel Sharon's daughter started a watchdog group to make sure investigations occur regarding checkpoint/road block abuses. There is also a group known as B'Tselem who does as well, but involving other abuses such as using bulldozers on civilian homes, torture of Palestinians, and the collective punishment of all Palestinian towns and hospitals, who are cut off from water and electricity by the Israeli goverment and soldiers. They also ask for investigations on why Israeli soldiers block off the red crescent (their version of the Red Cross) emergency vehicles from reaching their destinations to help wounded civilians.

Needless to say, these groups are mostly persecuted and censored by their own goverment and media, ensuring that none of Israel's actions gets any bad rep, even within its own media, or anywhere else in the world.

[edit on 27-4-2008 by DJMessiah]



posted on Apr, 27 2008 @ 09:42 PM
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Thanks for sharing the truth. I agree with you about all of the issues you mentioned, here. Also: I see what you mean about those Israelis, Holocaust-survivors, and Palestinians. I appreciate your replies & comments.

reply to post by fozotronic
 

I agree with you. Those Nazis/Zionists are trying to take the Palestinians' territory. They're willing (and literally) killing millions of people to get that territory.
reply to post by 23Eulogy23
 

Thanks for the history lesson. I see what you mean about those mass-murderers.


Originally posted by citizen smith
I don't know what to say as I am so truely enraged and tearful...how can we as people allow this to happen? The world spoke in unison "never again" at the sight of the genocidal atrocities committed during WWII...

Yet this same nation state of Israel that holds that memory of holocaust over the heads of others commits the same barbarity they so loudly proclaim should never be allowed to happen again


I know what you mean. Israeli soldiers (and peaceful citizens of America, U.K., and Israel) are practically ruled and/or serving the same group of Nazis/Zionists, who orchestrated the "holocaust" , so many years ago.

Nazism and Zionism

In both Nazi Germany and Zionist Israel, the official doctrine is one of
ethnic-supremacy, the Master Race and the Chosen People.

The Nazis declared the "Germans" a distinct ethnicity and race, superior to others, the Master Race and sought to make "Germans" into an ethnically and religiously homogenized homeland.

The Zionists have declared "Jews" a distinct ethnicity, a distinct race, superior to others, the Chosen People of God and are trying to make the "Jews" and Israel into an ethnically and religiously homogenized homeland by driving the Palestinians, the original inhabitants, out.

Both Nazis and Jews sought to create a larger socialist state where their are "special ethnic rights" for the favored people.

Both Nazis and Jews seek to purify their race. In Hitler's Germany there were marriage laws and in Zionist Israel state paid Rabbi's of the fundamentalist Orthodox Judaism don't recognize marriages outside Orthodox Judaism. In Israel it is against the law to try and convert someone.

The Nazi's sought to create "lebensraum" or living room in Poland and the lands east to the Urals moving German settlers into the lands previously occupied by eastern Europeans.

The Jews are seeking "lebensraum" in Palestine and claim that all the lands from the Nile in Egypt to the Euphrates in Iraq were promised to the Chosen People by their God. The Zionists have moved settlers into lands previously occupied by the Palestinians (though now they are moving back out in some areas).

Both Nazism and Zionism chose simplistic, ancient religious symbol to rally the race and carry out a policy of ethnic conquest and ethnic cleansing.

Just as Nazism was German national socialism, Zionism is Jewish national socialism wrapped in a theocratic state. Both are based on a mythic interpretation of history, the Chosen People, the Master Race.

In 1940 Germany invaded Poland and created the Warsaw Ghetto. In 1967 the Jews seized what are now the occupied territories and created ghettos for the Palestinians with their Apartheid Wall and blockades around Palestinian villages.


Jim Condit - The Final Solution to Adolf Hitler (Adolph Hitler)

Google Video Link



posted on Apr, 27 2008 @ 09:59 PM
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DJMessiah:
I understand what you mean about those oppressed people, who are dominated by both the Palestinian & Israeli governments. Ariel Sharon is not trustworthy. I don't know if we should trust his daughter to do anything kind for the Palestinians or poor Israelis, near that border.

www.mediamonitors.net...

On October 3, 2001, I.A.P. News reported that according to Israel Radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael an acrimonious argument erupted during the Israeli cabinet weekly session last week between Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres. Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us. "Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying "don't worry about American pressure, we the Jewish people control America."

"The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate."

-- Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee: 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".

"I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews..... terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen .... I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country"

-----Sec. of State John Foster Dulles quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff

The long history of bipartisan Congressional support for Israel led former Secretary of State James Baker to call the Congress "The Little Knesset" after Israel's Knesset (parliament) in Jerusalem. Congress's embarrassing and unpatriotic display of allegiance to a foreign country that is dependent on American largesse and support is the unknown scandal to the American people. With the media's strong, biased and sympathetic portrayal of Israel while simultaneously denying any opposing view of Israel or human pictures and stories of the endless suffering of Palestinians, its no wonder that we the American people are so unaware of the true face of Israel. Thus shockingly but not surprisingly only 4 % of the American people are aware of Israel's 34 year brutal military occupation of the Palestinian people.

Only at times of war and threat upon the U.S. does our Senate ever exhibit the strong bipartisanship support of America it regularly provides Israel. Despite our current crisis in airline security, Congressional political bickering continued for weeks between Republicans and Democrats placing American lives at risk while foreign aid to Israel was quick and automatic (about $6 Billion), even at a time the Congress is telling us of budget deficits and lack of money for the unemployed American workers. As an American I am outraged at the blind historical allegiance our Senators have provided Israel while they neglect many of our pressing domestic issues such as airline security, Social Security and Medicare Reform, Education Reform, Health Insurance for needy Americans, Money for Dilapidated Schools, and Prescription Coverage for our Elderly. Our Congress operates on the premise that most Americans are disinterested in foreign policy thus they have a vacuum to provide Israel with blank checks and our latest F-16 fighter jets that Israel uses to kill Palestinian civilians. They depend on our media to keep us uninformed and distracted with Sports, Harry Potter, and scandals.


Ariel Sharon - Man of Peace?


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posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 05:54 AM
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Pathocracy: DISEASE


Excellent posts, mister ChadAndrewATS!


You want to know how can we describe such countries as Israel?


Political Ponerology: A Science on The Nature of Evil adjusted for Political Purposes

Pathocracy is a disease of great social movements followed by entire societies, nations, and empires. In the course of human history, it has affected social, political, and religious movements as well as the accompanying ideologies… and turned them into caricatures of themselves…. This occurred as a result of the … participation of pathological agents in a pathodynamically similar process. That explains why all the pathocracies of the world are, and have been, so similar in their essential properties.

The actions of [pathocracy] affect an entire society, starting with the leaders and infiltrating every town, business, and institution. The pathological social structure gradually covers the entire country creating a “new class” within that nation. This privileged class [of pathocrats] feels permanently threatened by the “others”, i.e. by the majority of normal people. Neither do the pathocrats entertain any illusions about their personal fate should there be a return to the system of normal man.





posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 06:12 AM
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Excellent post, and point well made about Zionism and Zionist cover ups. Why are the videos posted relating to Zionism no longer available? I wonder if ATS is being policed by pro Israel advocates. You Tube has also pulled videos critical of
Israel and the Holocaust. The truth should never fear investigation. Speaking of investigation, what about the USS Liberty. No one has ever come up with a plausible explanation as to why she was attacked by Israeli fighters and gun boats. In fact the surviving veterans offer a ten thousand dollar reward to anyone who can.



posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 09:04 AM
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They have asked the goverment to form an investigation into the coverup, and continually, they are denied a investigation because by doing so, it will "hurt relations between Israel and the US." And here I thought the goverment held a higher allegiance to its soldiers than it did of soldiers of another country.



posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 09:30 AM
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This is (just one of many) areas where Christians, (Zionist)Jewish people and I disagree.
Israel is not innocent. I've heard how soldiers tortured young palestinian boys with rifle butts and other stuff, Don't forget the American college student run over with a bull-dozer(on purpose!), victim Rachel Corrie.

It's mandatory that ALL Israeli citizens serve in the military for an alloted time, those who say no, because of torture(or any other reason) are called
Refuseniks

[edit on 28-4-2008 by Clearskies]



posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 11:04 AM
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I appreciate your help. I just added that video about Pathocracy to my AboveTopSecretDotCom Page at YouTube, a moment ago. You're right about Pathocracy being a disease; It's like a mental-disease) and/or bad idea (like the New World Order).

a big idea: NEW WORLD ORDER


reply to post by Clearskies
 


I appreciate your comments. I agree with you about the tyrannical government of Israel, and their lust for corruption & death.

reply to post by DJMessiah
 


I know what you mean about those cover-ups. I'm so glad more and more of them are being investigated and revealed.

reply to post by bornagainagnostic
 


Those Zionists can't cover the truth, as much as they used to do it. They're being exposed all over the world, like other wicked-organizations, which have no respect for the safety & rights of humans, in general.



posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 11:33 AM
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I do not believe that God gave the Holy Land to the Jews. If God wanted the Jews to have the Holy Land then we would all know about it. It would not only be in the Bible, but it would be imprinted in our minds. Why does a supreme being who is omnipresent need to express himself in a book whose authorship is disputed. A book whose errors in translation from one language to another introduces errors in every successive copy/translation. I cannot believe nor can I condone the Bible as the law. Proponents of the Bible only espouse those sections that actually support their own agenda. GOD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BIBLE.



posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 11:58 AM
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God DID give them the kingdom. Jerusalem was the capital. Read the Bible. But, when they as a nation sinned against the statutes of God AS A Nation of priests and prophets the viel was rent in two and gentiles were allowed in as well and the temple was rendered useless.
Our kingdom is NOT of this world(else would his children fight for it)
We await a perfect kingdom. When the Lord returns.
I don't nessessarily believe in replacement theology, but, that ALL who believe Jew and Gentile alike should believe and repent.
Who's to say who are of what actual blood-line of each of the Hebrew tribes, now???

Anyone can convert.



posted on Apr, 29 2008 @ 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by Clearskies
God DID give them the kingdom [...] Read the Bible.


Now which bible, the 'one true accurate word of god', would that be?

The Gallic Bible (Southern France) (AD177)?
The Gothic Bible (AD 330-350)?
The Old Syriac Bible (AD 400)?
The Armenian Bible (AD 400)?
The Palestinian Syriac (AD 450)?
The French Bible of Oliveton (AD 1535)?
The Czech Bible (AD 1602)?
The Italian Bible of Diodati (AD 1606)?
The New American Standard Bible?
New International Bible?
King James Bible?
New King James Bible?
The Good News Bible?
The Gideon's Bible?

All translated/transcribed with their own ideological agenda at their root...

If god is your witness, let him take the stand and state for the record that the land that the state of Israel now occupies was indeed contractually agreed...

...until then, case adjourned!





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