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Originally posted by logician magician
In short, there is a battle between the haves, and the have-nots.
Originally posted by Anti-Tyrant
After all, Fear of losing something is a greater incentive to take action than the Fear of gaining something.
Originally posted by logician magician
Often, in order to gain something, you must work through the fear before arriving at the outcome.
After all, a caterpillar who is fearful of the cacoon will surely die in protest before knowing the wonders of freedom that await him.
post by logician magician
Our dear friend, Mr. John F. Kennedy tried to warn you. He tried to tell you, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." No, we did not kill him. It was one of you. One of the selfish have-nots.
“A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
Terror is not a new weapon. Throughout history it has been used by those who could not prevail, either by persuasion or example. But inevitably they fail, either because men are not afraid to die for a life worth living, or because the terrorists themselves came to realize that free men cannot be frightened by threats, and that aggression would meet its own response. And it is in the light of that history that every nation today should know, be he friend or foe, that the United States has both the will and the weapons to join free men in standing up to their responsibilities.
The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in ensuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control.
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Those who 'have' stand to lose more than those who have' not
Originally posted by kain_the_hunter
Seems to me the OP is trying to be a jedi. "i havecontrol over you" .
Originally posted by logician magician
If speaking in absolutes than that does not follow the premise of the nature between the haves and have-nots.
Originally posted by Anti-Tyrant
reply to post by logician magician
Your own points in this thread have been fairly absolutist, magician.
Yes, i consider 20,000 to be more than 20, which is in keeping with my original point.
I fail to see how you could have twisted my meaning in such a interesting way.
Originally posted by Neon Haze
People will never be satisfied with less.
Originally posted by logician magician
Often, in order to gain something, you must work through the fear before arriving at the outcome.
Originally posted by Neon Haze
Originally posted by logician magician
Often, in order to gain something, you must work through the fear before arriving at the outcome.
You speak truth here..... Though I would state that anything worthwhile is not easy to attain. The easier something is to achieve the less it means.
It is for the people that choose to free their mind.
NeoN HaZe
[edit on 26-4-2008 by Neon Haze]
Originally posted by logician magician
Originally posted by Neon Haze
People will never be satisfied with less.
There are plenty of people who are satisfied with less. Take Buddhists, Monasticist, and Christian Mystics.
People will never be satisfied with less. We Always strive for truth and freedom.
I won't respond to that excessive showyness of an ignorant conspiracy post. All of the quotes line up entirely with the concept of a New World Order.
Originally posted by logician magician
If a man with $100 loses $10,
is it not the same feeling to a man with $10
who loses $1?
They've both lost 10% of their net worth. Is $1 to a to a billionaire the same as $1 to a homeless man?
Can you explain how the have here has stood to lose more than the have not?
Originally posted by logician magician
If a man with $100 loses $10,
is it not the same feeling to a man with $10
who loses $1?
They've both lost 10% of their net worth. Is $1 to a to a billionaire the same as $1 to a homeless man?
Can you explain how the have here has stood to lose more than the have not?