Again please bear in mind that I love a good mystery as much as the next person, and I am approaching this with an open mind and not thinking "let's
find reasons to say this is a training/actual prison camp."
User92560437-- most of this message is in response to things you have said, and THANKS for giving me some food for thought on my days off! I am
enjoying playing with the imagery and whatnot.
First of all, I am not sure if I am just an old-timer who hasn't been around the country enough lately (drilled only in-state in my last couple years
in the Guard), but I do not see any barracks, or any buildings resembling barracks, in any of these images. I see green canvas tents, as I said before
probably GP-mediums or GP-large (General Purpose), which could indeed be used as barracks, but can be erected in a short period of time by relatively
untrained soldiers, so I don't think they are indicative of much. I would imagine that longer-term projects would use actual permanent buildings and
not tents. I also see white buildings, with high rooflines, such as are typically used to store 10-ton trucks with cranes on the back, or other
high-clearance wheeled vehicles. I should say, at least that's what I have seen in my experience. They certainly are not like any barracks I have
In the clearing to the east/northeast, I see those frame-like structures, and frankly they look like the framework for a GP-large, or a steel-sided
building. The lack of wear on the nearby terrain makes me think they may only be used periodically, for example during summer AT bivouacs by visiting
units. Throw the GP-large canvas on the frame, stake the ropes, and you have a quick shelter. Again, they certainly do not resemble the framework for
any barracks I saw during my service.
To answer a zillion questions at once...I went into the infamous Google Earth imagery, and when I saw the loop-shaped road area in the upper right of
the area in question, I am convinced that this either is or was an ASP. That is an offload point for certain explosives. Ammo and some explosives
(grenades at least) would be unloaded on the concrete dock I mentioned before, whereas higher-yield explosives would be unloaded in a more shielded
area such as that little loop.
Which brings me to my next point, User92560437 this will answer one of your questions...
The reason there are so few "bunkers" (I agree that is the best way to describe them, though the Army calls them "magazines"), and the area is
isolated, is that this would be used for storing higher-yield explosives. Sitting next to me now is are tattered copies of DA Form 4604-R ("Security
Construction Statement") and FORSCOM Form 133-R ("Quantity Distance Verification") that I knew I had still sitting in my gear from my days as an
The 1st document is a form that would be used to list the construction type, and then declare the capacity, size, etc., of something like an ammo
storage magazine. The guideline for the form is AR 190-11, so I guess that if someone could dig up a copy of 190-11, we would find the exact
specifications for different size and purpose magazines.
The second document is perhaps the key here. It would be used to list the type of explosives and quantity in pounds that could be stored in several
different "magazine" structures. It also has the "quantity distance separation" in feet, listing how far apart the different structures must be.
And my notes indicate that this form is filled out in accordance with AR 385-64, which I just found here:
Hmm, I just thought, why not do an online search for these documents so you folks can see what I mean?
This is a PDF that loads so slowly on my computer that I am not sure what it will show, but I think it is the FORSCOM 133-R:
Here is a blank 4604-R:
This seems to link to guidelines for using forms like the 4604-R: