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reply posted on 27-4-2008 @ 03:04 PM by CA_Orot
Just some random thoughts on this.... (as I haven't had a chance to actually write this all out to find some connections...)

- Is there any pattern linked between the dates that each victim went missing? Such as an interval of time?

- Do we have access to knowing what ALL the street names were? Not just the Sinsiniwa Street? (The reason i ask, as there were signs on one of the links which showed: Smith Street, Wall Street, Sinsiniwa Street...perhaps the name of the street found at One crime scene, is the name of the street of the NEXT crime scene?)

- If it is a group murder...perhaps the group moves around...maybe one of them enrolls in university, targets the victim, and get's close with them, and then the group commits the crime...??

- It is is possible that it is a single person. One person, who is disgruntled with their present life-situation. They could be unhappy to not be a "Class 1 Student, Jock, Good Marks etc...." and as a result, targets an athelete, someone who is "bettering" (i use this term loosely, because different people have different ways of self-satisfaction) their life, and is going to have a promising "carreer??" possibly?

- It could be a group of girls. Perhaps girls who "knew" these guys and are upset with them? (This is a bit of a stretch...) But. (As far as we know, there was no struggle...There are no witnesses who recall hearing/seeing anything. Perhaps these guys were "going home" with a girl...and thats why there was no commotion? Or perhaps, he was on his way home, ran into a girl. And took her up on an offfer and ended up in the river?

These are just some random ideas...Any other ideas?



reply posted on 27-4-2008 @ 06:07 PM by Dulcimer
I would like to have all the smiley face evidence, and any of the nick names or call signs that the detectives have.

If this is a group that communicates over the internet, I would love to research and cross reference. There are a lot of strange sites out there.

This is a stretch, but if the detectives are out there reading this, feel free to sign up and post your thoughts on all these cases.

For me, I do not have enough to go on to make any good connections, but from what I have read, there is just too much to ignore.

I can think of a few cities along rivers with high populations of students that have not had this type of drowning occuring. The sheer number of students that drowned is very odd. I can understand a few accidents, but this is just strange.


If anyone wants to help research this, see what articles you can find online containing references to the possible victims in the lists provided.

Also, try searching for other possible occurrences of drownings involving students and alcohol being a factor. I would like to research more into Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Ontario in Canada. Ontario would probably be the best bet if there is anything related in Canada. I have my doubts about Canadian activity though.



Here is one strange Canadian story.


Family members have confirmed that a body discovered Tuesday morning in Edmonton's North Saskatchewan River is that of a university student missing for nine days.

Robert Barrington Leigh, 20, disappeared Aug. 13 while visiting family in Edmonton.

His body was identified by police Tuesday afternoon, Barrington Leigh's family said in a posting on their website.

Edmonton police spokeswoman Lisa Lammi confirmed that a body had been found on the north side of the river by the crew of a City of Edmonton water and sanitation boat.

She said a number of pieces of identification had been found with the body, including a driver's licence.

The body was taken to the medical examiner's office and an autopsy is scheduled for Wednesday.

"At this time we need to get dental records to positively ID this individual, but foul play is not suspected," Lammi said. "The investigation is continuing … until the results of that autopsy are found."

Barrington Leigh, considered one of the top mathematical minds in North America, hadn't been seen since he cycled to the Edmonton Folk Music Festival to meet some friends.


Source Article

This seems so out of the ordinary for a person like this... I cannot see them even getting in trouble on the streets. Very odd.



reply posted on 27-4-2008 @ 08:23 PM by Spoontoad
I've been doing some research on this all day, and wanted to share this links:

Footprints At The River's Edge

It's interesting to read and find out more info on the victims them selves. There are 2 others from the Twin Cities area who went missing as well, 1 of which has never been found. The twist with those 2 (Rossini, and Edberg) is that both lived near by each other, and both of the mothers work at the same school.


I expect this case to become a bigger story this week.

[edit on 27-4-2008 by Spoontoad]


reply posted on 27-4-2008 @ 11:13 PM by Spoontoad
Your welcome. I agree it is some good reading. I dont even know how I stumbled upon it, but I know Iwas doing some massive Googleing

I'm also reading the Minneapolis Police Report regarding Jenkins. I'm on page 26 of the 50 page file. If no one has read it, or at least skimmed thru it, look it over. The first few pages are pretty standard stuff, but it gets interesting. You can view the documents
Here.
It's in a PDF format.

Unfortunatly, these 2 detectives havn't given out awhol lot of info, but I wouldn't mind reading police reports from all the other drowning cases. I think that could give us some more insight.

And a little off topic, an area / forum for stuff like this would be great. I know I like to put my brain to work in these things.


Edited for spelling - I need new keyboard



[edit on 27-4-2008 by Spoontoad]


reply posted on 28-4-2008 @ 12:40 AM by shockedonlooker
A couple of things about reports that don't add up. Some reports mention torture, yet these are not ruled homicides...what kind of "torture"?

from
this link :

"Also uncovered by Chuck Loesch was a self-proclaimed serial killer who was living in Minneapolis around the time of the disappearances. Police have never questioned the man who, in September 2002, dialed 9-1-1 and demanded police send the FBI to his home to profile him or he'd go on a killing spree.

The man told authorities he fantasizes about abducting straight young men, suffocating them with Saran Wrap and then killing them, and that he identifies with Jeffrey Dahmer.

Police have never identified the man but revealed, "His fantasy was to go across the country picking up males between the ages of 16 and 30 and befriending them. He stated that he would then kill them by suffocating them, drowning or burning them." "

and

"May 01, 2002
Accused clergy remain at St. John's Abbey,
schools Abbot releases information to end 'culture of secrecy'
that aids abuse

ASSOCIATED PRESS

COLLEGEVILLE, Minn. -- Thirteen to 15 monks or priests live and work under restrictions at St. John's Abbey after being accused of or admitting to sexual abuse, the abbot for the monastery said.

The number represents about 7 percent of the 196 monks and priests affiliated with the monastery and nearby St. John's University, a preparatory school and a religious press.

Restrictions vary for the men, but they include keeping them off college or prep school grounds and out of university athletic facilities.

Abbot John Klassen, who has led the monastery in central Minnesota for 17 months, said he has been reviewing abuse allegations and wants to "clear the decks.''

He didn't offer a precise number of clergy who are restricted, in part because the types of cases vary. Klassen said the alleged victims were mostly boys ranging in age from 12 to 17, in incidents that took place in the 1970s.

. . . Klassen earlier sent a letter to St. John's University officials and students revealing abuse allegations against a former abbot, the Rev. John Eidenschink.

Klassen said he sent the letter because he wanted to put an end to "a culture of secrecy that makes sexual abuse and exploitation possible." He said the allegations had never been discussed, even within the monastery.

Eidenschink, who served as abbot from 1971-1979, was in poor health at the monastery and wasn't available for comment.

Klassen has made public eight other names: Cosmos Dahlheimer, Richard Eckroth, Finian McDonald, Brennan Maiers, Dunstan Moorse, Allen Tarlton, Fran Hoefgen and John Kelly.

Each has had "credible allegations'' levied against them, and -- except for Dahlheimer and Eckroth -- has acknowledged wrongdoing and sought treatment, Klassen said. "


What would accused clergy at St. John's Abbey have to do with this case? Anyone remember the unsolved priest murder in Wisconsin a few years back? from article here

"There are, of course, at least a few theories about who, or what, might have been behind Kunz's murder. The prominent theory is that Kunz was killed because he "knew too much." About what? About the sexual misconduct of some men of the cloth. Men who were able to cover up their misdeeds for years, even decades. Men who formed the underbelly of the American church.

A significant aspect of that underbelly is the homosexual network, a network that has existed for a long time but is seldom if ever discussed in politically correct circles. Actively homosexual priests who seek to destroy the Church from within. This is the homosexual network. "Never underestimate the power of this network," Kunz reportedly once told a close associate. "


[edit on 4/28/2008 by shockedonlooker]
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