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reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 12:26 PM by Vanitas
reply to post by Bcs8484



This actually could be one of those headache-less migraines (which is a popular explanation for such experiences).
Obviously, I am not saying that it IS, but it does sound like a plausible explanation.



reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 12:58 PM by Bcs8484
reply to post by Vanitas



Certainly is plausibly . I definitely don't think thats it's anything CRAZY it's probaly just something with the inner ear or what not. I was just seeing if other people had the same experiences that I have somethings.


reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 01:15 PM by Vanitas
reply to post by Bcs8484




Oh, I don't think it's "crazy" either - even it WASN'T a migraine.





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reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 01:21 PM by John Q
reply to post by Bcs8484



Yeah, sure is hard to describe. I dont remember having one of these things when im fully awake. So I think my eyes were always closed (not sure). It is always at night that I know. But they seem to occur when im relaxed. This recent one I would say it happened at the between stage of leaving the conscious and entering the subconscious or when you are "drifting off" to sleep.

The only thing I would add to my previous post is that the images I saw in my head before this explosion were very intense much more vivid than a normal dream (yet I was still awake) also the feeling of being warm was the same as standing outside in the sunshine. All of this was triggered by the sound of a plane flying by, I had no reason to think off these images at that time.

JQ


reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 01:31 PM by Vanitas
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John, this is a very important piece of information.
(Not that the previous account wasn't, obviously.)

Have you recorded those images in any way: written them down, drawn them?
I hope you did.
And, needless to say, keep track of any such or similar occurrences.





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reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 01:42 PM by Vanitas
reply to post by pieman



There are migraines - at least that's how the medical textbooks classify this condition - without the slightest headache as a symptom.

Scotomas, for example (see above), are supposed to be a symptom of such a type of migraine.





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reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 01:44 PM by Harman
reply to post by Vanitas



Ah, too bad. I haven't read it btw, just liked the sound of it

Anyway, good thread. I'll keep following this one, maybe some more usefull info comes up .


reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 01:46 PM by Bcs8484
reply to post by John Q



When it happends to me I'm not fully awake it's at night with the lights off and the tv on tring to fall asleep. So I get when you say "leaving the conscious entering the subconscious, drifting to sleep", that really makes alot of sense to me. That change in conscious may give me the strange pitch in my ear and may change my depth perception causing me to relize the distance between myself and other objects in which I described!!



reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 01:55 PM by John Q
reply to post by Vanitas



I havent recorded them, but I can. I still remember them. Can I ask why its important just interested in your thoughts on this.

Thanks,

JQ.


reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 01:58 PM by pieman
reply to post by Vanitas



yeah, believe it not i actually read the thread before posting, no, i don't think it is a migrane at all.

on a side note, the sotomas[sp] that were described remind me of the visuals you get if you gently press on your closed eyes, i have a feeling they are probably caused by a pressure build-up in the fluid of the eye. this is probably the same mechanisim that causes them in migraine, probably through tense face musles, but i doubt that the two are actually related other than symptomatically, i think they are probably related in textbooks because of the simularity of the symthoms, and because there is no real threat to your health or well being and no treatment required, the diagnosis is probably conveniance driven rather than medically sound.



JQ, just thinking about the beach dream you had, i am often in a walled garden when i have the falling sensation at the edge of sleep, it's quite vivid, i always assumed the vividness was due to waking up in the middle of the dream with a semi concious mind and that the particular dream was linked to the sensation. what do you think, could the sound of the plane triggered both the sensation and an accosiation with holidays/vacation?

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reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 02:46 PM by Vanitas
reply to post by Harman



"Epilepsy" - or even more generically, "seizures" - is a common explanation for anything of the kind that escapes classification.
It doesn't mean it is necessarily so. ;-)


reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 02:55 PM by Vanitas
Originally posted by John Q
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post by Vanitas



I havent recorded them, but I can. I still remember them. Can I ask why its important just interested in your thoughts on this.

JQ.


No special reason (unless you count as "special reason" the fact that I am a data freak who records the exact minute of any thought deemed worth recording - oh, and the atmospheric circumstances, too... )

It's just that I find it very wise to record, in one way or another, ANYTHING out of the ordinary - in context, if possible.
It's a very simple practice - and IF there were a connection between the outside circumstances and your images - other than subconscious associations, that is - such records would be extremely useful to "chart" their interconnection.








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