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posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 01:43 PM
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Hi, I don't normally post, just normally watch ATS; but this is freaking me out a little.

I live in the England, just on the edge of the second largest city, Birmingham. A few months ago I saw a TV programme talking about this issue. I thought it was quite alarmist and then never really thought about it again. Then a few weeks back there was a story in the local newspaper, the Express & Star. Again, I rolled my eyes and though nothing of it.

Then today I was out in the sunshine playing with my little neice in her back garden and she started showing me all these dead honey bees scattered around. There were quite a few, all just laying on the ground, isolated from one another in different parts of the garden. Then I though back and realised that, despite it being mild and sunny, I haven't seen a single honey bee this year (apart from a single dead one a few days ago). Later I visited my mother and mentioned the dead bees and she said that she had seen several in her garden, but no live ones..

I know its just a small sample I have seen, but it is certainly creepy. The gardens here are becoming perfect for bees now, and yet there aren't any......... Lots of midges and flies and a few wasps, but no honey bees at all...




posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 01:47 PM
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The missing bees went to OZ, and came back pissed when they found out it was only TJ......



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 01:53 PM
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Thank you interestedalways this is great information about the magnetic alignment in lifeforms and how important it is for navigation and survival.

This is how important honey bees are to you and me. Believe it or not Bees are more important than poultry as far as human nutrition.

Another tid bit of info is Bees living inside one hive visit on the average 1,000,000 flowers per day within a 400 square Kilometer area. Now that is impressive.
Rik Riley



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 02:08 PM
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Hi artistoli, do not know the particular cause of the deaths and why the lack of the bees in your area of the world, and it is of great concern because your family has all noticed something is not quite right. Check and see if any pesticides have been sprayed in your area or an abnormal amount of chemtrails, cloudy like contrail patterns in the sky, have been made lately. Let us know if any new cellular phone towers have gone up near by you also. Rik Riley



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posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 02:11 PM
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I agree with 1 thing Bees are vanishing, but guess what is on the rise??? Wasps!!! I have seen loads here in the UK in the past 2-3 weeks.
IMO it's just the more dominant insect winning the evolutionary war...



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 02:12 PM
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An important but not new issue!

The first thread on this problem was in February 2007 here:
ATS Bees Disappearing by Loam

But a thread later that month has some really really interesting information in it, on this issue from many good sources, I covered most of it here and I bet when you find out how your tomatoes are really created with sexy bees you will never look at a salad the same again!

WOW DO BEES REALLY DO THAT?

Nope Einstein never said it but whoever did was right!

In The world currently the issue of dying insects besides bees is now a problem too with food supply for us humans butterflies which in turn some flowers and the entire food chain require are in serious decline now!




Data from the UK Butterfly Monitoring Scheme showed that eight species were at an all-time low as a result of an unsuccessful summer in 2007.
BBC News

Here are some experts talking on video about the current Bee situation, in the UK in one area they have almost completely disappeared, and some of the hives being deserted are in fact wild unlike some previous posters state!
BBC Mystery of Disappearing Bees Video

And the Expert Interview:
BBC Interview with bee expert Video


Here is a good synopsis

Panic in the beehive
If the UK lost its honey bees the countryside would face devastation, and that is exactly what beekeepers fear could happen.


BBC Panic in the Beehive Story

I love honey, im going to plant some flowers for the bees!

Maybe it will help all us from stopping to starve to death if we all planted a flower a week for the bees! and us too!

Seriously it is a bit like that.

Kind Regards,

MischeviousElf


[edit on 26-4-2008 by MischeviousElf]



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 02:21 PM
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Thanks MischeviousElf for sharing this other thread with us this is some great information and although the problem with the bees dying is worldwide it seems more so in America. I was told to keep watching and see if there is a decline of the butterflies and if so this is a sign. Rik Riley




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posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 02:35 PM
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Plan 'Bee' From Outer Space...



Bees are not stupid. They've had 5,000 years to come up with The Plan.

They are sick and tired of working as slaves for their human masters.

The Revolution has begun !

Soon, bees will be free...



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 02:51 PM
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These issues are certainly tough ones. Eliminate chemicals from farming and millions starve. Don't eliminate them and we may destroy parts of the environment. Damned if we do; damned if we don't.

Even if Western Industrialized Nations solve these issues, what do we do about the rest of the world? Let them eat dirt and starve? When they have to choose between starvation or using chemicals, which choice will they make? Seems obvious.

We read plenty of complaints and ridiculous untenable solutions, but how often do we see workable answers?



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 03:00 PM
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Magnetoception (or "magnetoreception") is the ability to detect changes in a magnetic field to perceive direction or altitude and has even been postulated as a method for animals to develop regional maps. It is most commonly observed in birds, though it has also been observed in many other animals including honeybees and turtles. Researchers have identified a probable sensor in pigeons: a small (dwarf), heavily innervated region of the skull, which contains biological magnetite. Humans have a similar magnetite deposit in the ethmoid bone of the nose, and there is some evidence this gives humans some magnetoception.
Magnetoception



We know about the world through our five senses - sight, sound, touch, smell and taste. But what if there is a 6 th sense? Maybe there is - the magnetic sense.

This magnetic sense seems to be powered by the first new substance found in the human body since the early medical anatomists made the startling discovery that we are made of "blood, guts and bones". There are tiny magnets, as well, in the human brain - and these magnets can stop you from getting lost.
Magnetic Sixth Sense



Some years ago scientists at CALTECH (California Institute of Technology in Pasadena) discovered that humans possess a tiny, shiny crystal of magnetite in the ethmoid bone, located between your eyes, just behind the nose.

Magnetite is a magnetic mineral also possessed by homing pigeons, migratory salmon, dolphins, honeybees, and bats. Indeed, some bacteria even contain strands of magnetite that function, according to Dr Charles Walcott of the Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology in Ithaca, New York, "as tiny compass needles, allowing them [the bacteria] to orient themselves in the earth's magnetic field and swim down to their happy home in the mud".
Do humans have a compass in their nose?




[edit on 26-4-2008 by interestedalways]



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 03:20 PM
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Even if Bees should die out (North America) This is not a world wide problem.
Only one-third of the human diet is derived from insect-pollinated plants. So don't panic yet guys.

Main pointer to date is with the Varrora Mite (half of hives tested had Varrora and 3/4 had the IAPV) and Israel acute paralysis virus (IAPV). Not the end of the world. Also large numbers of supposed CCD cases have turned out to be natural winter die off's, other known viruses etc.

Many thousands of crops are cross pollinated by the wind and other species of bees (20,000 species to be exact) not just the Western Honey Bee.

Bees aren't the only pollinators in the world beetles, flies, wasps, thrips, butterflies and moths are all successful pollinators.

Also these problem is only affecting commercial hives, all organic/natural hives bee colonies have shown no affect.



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 03:22 PM
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I think I found them the other day. It seems that I have thousands of them in the bigggggggggggg old hollow tree out in front of my home.

We made a call to the exterminator to see what we should do and we were told that with so many bees that went missing they don't kill them they try to locate a bee keeper to come out and get them.

We called yesterday and haven't heard anything yet.



[edit on 26-4-2008 by observe50]



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 03:40 PM
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My own opinion is that it is noticed in the domestic bee population moreso because we humans "account" for them etc. However, I have always been an ardent observer of nature and have noticed in the last few years a DRAMATIC decline in the number of wasps, dirt daubers, yellow jackets, etc in and around my NE Florida residence (where I have resided for 52 years).

I live on the marsh and have always had many of these bee species building their nests all around my home and deck every year. In the last couple of years, I have NOT HAD ONE NEST of any of these species. Something ain't right! Also, I have noticed that bullfrogs and toads (which always could be found underneath my pots and in my garage) have not shown in over 3 years!



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 04:00 PM
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i agree i seen a lot of documentary about 2012 all is going to get worse from now on famine ,diseases,wars,hurrucanes,floods............ polar shift as well and the fact of the bees are vanishing makes it closer check it out on youtube just type in 2012
all we can do is not panicking and pray



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by rikriley
This is what I also had strong suspicions of what is causing the deaths of our beloved honey bees.

The FDA chief Ralph Roachman back in 2007 said bees are dying from genetically modified crops,


Ummm, did you happen to look at the source for that story?

www.thespoof.com...



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by greenfruit
Even if Bees should die out (North America) This is not a world wide problem.
Only one-third of the human diet is derived from insect-pollinated plants. So don't panic yet guys.

Main pointer to date is with the Varrora Mite (half of hives tested had Varrora and 3/4 had the IAPV) and Israel acute paralysis virus (IAPV). Not the end of the world. Also large numbers of supposed CCD cases have turned out to be natural winter die off's, other known viruses etc.

Many thousands of crops are cross pollinated by the wind and other species of bees (20,000 species to be exact) not just the Western Honey Bee.

Bees aren't the only pollinators in the world beetles, flies, wasps, thrips, butterflies and moths are all successful pollinators.

Also these problem is only affecting commercial hives, all organic/natural hives bee colonies have shown no affect.




The quoted post is a lot of what I was going to post. Also, although I am not 100% sure, I think honeybees are not native to the USA. They were brought here by the colonists in the 1600's. That means , just as greenfruit said, bees are not the only pollinators. I realize there is a much larger crop of food than in there was 1000 years ago, but it will still happen. The other ways of pollination may not be as successful as bees, but it used to work. I had better close by saying I am not downplaying the deaths. It does concern me. Oh yeah, there are thousands of honeybees out in my yard right now(not kidding!).



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 05:01 PM
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I live on the northern coast of Colombia. We have lots of cell phones, use lots of pesticides and herbicides, and grow GMO crops and our bee population has not been affected at all. We also don't have a lot of commercial bee keepers which may be part of the problem. Our wild bee population seems to be doing its job. There are lots of other pollinators besides bees anyhow. Don't believe all of the hype and use some common sense. Look around you and use your own eyes to see what is going on in the world. The food crisis is cause by the expense of transportation. The US can easily feed the world and then some but who will pay to get the food to the hungry? There is plenty of food and lots of honey bees. Relax.



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 05:10 PM
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Maybe the bee's are just going extinct,maybe it's not anything unnatural.
I agree we need to learn why they are dying.........kinda odd how the "X Files"main conspiracy revolved around bee's though.


But I wouldn't start to say we are going extinct until further research.

It is possible the bee's are going extinct.



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 05:23 PM
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Maybe all these genetically modified plants are finally taking their toll on the bee population ?



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 05:27 PM
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I'm glad you brought this up, I've been doing some reading and came across HAARP, for a while now I"m convinced there is something going on there that seems wrong. I posted a thread on HAARP there are also some very interesting videos on it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...





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