Bees vanish- all life has 4 yrs to live on Earth, page 1
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reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 08:28 PM by rikriley
reply to post by groingrinder



Hi groingrinder, what ever the massive cause, it is affecting the immune system of our beloved bees. Pesticides or a virus could be part of the problem but I believe the cause of the massive deaths of the honey bees is deeper than that and we had better find the answer quickly. Rik Riley



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reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 08:58 PM by wayno
reply to post by rikriley



excellent link and alert. We hear all the time about the potential cancer link from cell phones but this is the first I've heard of cell/microwave towers. This whole subject needs some serious spotlighting.
This is potentially a far more serious and imminent threat than even the global nuclear war that was the issue when I was a kid.
I am more worried now than then, because while I sort of new the "leaders" back then would not want to start something they couldn't finish, who now is in charge? Will big business, greedy consumers and lobby driven politicians give a damn about bees and birds?
I seriously worry about that. I can envision lots of better ways "to go" than thru the chaos that will ensue as a result of ignoring this problem!!


reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 09:10 PM by rikriley
reply to post by wayno



Hi wayno, you and the population of the world need to be concerned with what is going on with this Mother Earth. Are we killing ourselves like the Romans did by drinking wine out of lead containers by eating genetically modified food and not to mention electromagnetic fields being bombarded on the world population and lifeforms on the planet? Rik Riley


reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 09:20 PM by dgtempe
reply to post by groingrinder

Absolutely. I had three of them big fat ones, chasing me all over my yard today.
Maybe they should look for them here?


reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 09:28 PM by wayno
reply to post by rikriley



Yes to all of the above! I have personally been concerned for a long time about our disregard for mother nature and growing reliance on everything artificial. My concern only grows every day with news like that you have highlighted in your OP.
Fear and dread might be more apt for how I feel now, along with frustration and anger at, well, the gall of the businesses that continue to push their risky, unproven technology, and the lack of interest, let alone concern of the average joe on the street.
I am not prone to hyperbole, but it seems like every day there is a report about another species on the brink somewhere in the world. I wonder if we haven't in fact already passed the tipping point?


reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 09:57 PM by ANOK
Originally posted by rikriley
Einstein once said if the bees vanish then all life on Earth has 4 years to live.


Actually there is no record of him ever saying that and is probably just an urban legend.

Some say that it was made up, and they used Einstein names to make the claim seem more credible.

www.snopes.com...

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reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 10:05 PM by rikriley
reply to post by ANOK



Hi ANOK, if Einstein never made the statement, Houston we still have a problem and the bees are dying and we had better figure out a solution to the problem. Rik Riley


reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 10:12 PM by ANOK
reply to post by rikriley



Well that's true, but I doubt we have to worry about Human life ending in four years...


reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 10:15 PM by pikypiky
Recently, I've been reading threads on ATS about harmful chemtrail activities from aircrafts at high altitudes, provided some of my two cents based on my personal observations in the skies and came across what appears to be another related thread to how the bees are dying due to EMF radiation sent out by HAARP entitled: 'The BEE smoking gun'.

So, Einstein may be correct about the demise of the human population when the bees die off due to the additional potential for these 'chemicals' above falling to ground level and possibly contaminating the 'crops' and water supply below.

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reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 10:23 PM by rikriley
reply to post by ANOK



Most scientist give us ten years if the current death rate of bees stands and if all the honey bees finally disappear. All I know we had better hire a bunch of workers with leaf blowers to pollinate the planet. LOL Rik Riley



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reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 10:29 PM by rikriley
reply to post by pikypiky



Hi pikypiky, I had given chemtrails some thought, but yes this is possible. Something is going on and I am not sure what we are being sprayed with and is this a biological or chemical agent falling to Earth not sure? Rik Riley



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reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 10:35 PM by DamnedDirtyApes
There are many articles on the internet that discuss this issue. In a research seminar for my graduate work, I looked into the colony collapse disorder. There are many theories.

Richard Hoagland suggests that the disappearance is related to torsion physics and navigation, and that the bees aren't necessarily dying; they are lost. Some articles look at cell/wi-fi technologies. Some point to the GMO issues, and others to pesticides like the nicotine based ones from companies like Bayer.

Rather than just continuing to read about the collapse, I enrolled in a class where I'm learning how to keep bees. It's a great class so far. It appears that migratory colonies, those which are transported from state to state for pollinating purposes, are seeing more of the effects than colonies that are rather stationary. There is still much for me to learn.

I tell people that I'm taking the class and they smile or laugh. Then I tell them that every 3rd bite of food that they take is the result of bee pollination. I think they understand that.

I don't know how much a stretch it is to connect this to the Codex stuff, or whether this whole thing was orchestrated. There was another article in this forum about the salmon no longer running up certain rivers. Perhaps these changes are due to the supposed shifting of the poles, and thus affecting navigation.

Whatever the case, I believe we're seeing the beginnings of the hard times for food. I don't know what the point of critical mass is, but it can't be too far down the line.


reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 10:50 PM by rikriley
reply to post by DamnedDirtyApes



Hi DamedDirtyApes, you bring up some good points. I used to sell bee pollen all over the United States especially Tennessee and had the great pleasure of meeting many bee keepers. They are a great down to Earth group of hard working people and willing to give a helping hand when it comes to their bees and as well as people.

The shifting of the poles is a possibility but at this point it is hard to prove other then watching nature to react to the change. I remember Major Ed Dames on Coast to Coast some years back talking about what he saw thru remote viewing for the future of the planet. He said, he could see the oceans of the world being totally depleted of fish and the fish would die off in masses causing massive starvation throughout the world. Rik Riley


reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 11:12 PM by DamnedDirtyApes
reply to post by rikriley



Hi Rik,
I tend to agree with your comment about beekeepers being down to earth people. The ones I have met are great people, whether they do it as hobbiests or as their jobs. Those who deal in agriculture or orchards are current on the CCD issue. I went to a seminar last month given by a professor from Michigan State University. He gave an informative presentation, although I felt like he was treating the GMOs like they were a non-issue. Maybe Monsanto gives the university money for research.

In response to your reference to the C2C interview with Maj. Ed Dames, I can't say that I caught that one. Although, I have no doubt that the global fisheries are being taxed.
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