reply to post by burdman30ott6
Heh, I grew up in the 80s, and I would love for my grandma (who lived through the Great Depression) to see you categorize the 80s as 'tough.' She
categorized our generation as 'spoiled' and 'lazy' and after hearing things my parents said about their childhood lives I'd say that's true. I
agree that the 90s were a magical fairlyland compared to the 70s and 80s, though. I had no videogame console, not even a 2600, and never have. I've
had a computer since '86 and still have my first one in the closet.
Most people I see commenting on the current situation seem to ignore both American and human
history. One commentator referred to the
possibility of a Depression as the coming of the SECOND depression. Hm, I guess all those others don't count...it's not even the first time we've
been under threat of depression due to a real estate bubble. One depression toward the beginning of the 19th century was due to that, and there were
several periods classified as a 'depression' in that century.
And human history: Famine, disease, war, earthquakes, foul weather, etc. have always been with us. Those of you raised with a strong Christian
background have probably been thinking about 'End Times'; well, we've been in the 'End Times' for about 2000 years now. Is this the end? If
evangelicals stop thumping on a Bible long enough to read it, you'll know the answer is 'I don't know.'
The tragedy of the current crisis is that it's not so much an ecological disaster as it is a human-created disaster. The parts of the world
suffering the most are large populations living in the desert, war zones, or both; and in places like China, where the economy is booming, well, that
part of the world is given to disaster. It certainly doesn't help that
Corn ethanol is getting a beating, but have you noticed that America's output of that particular grain has DOUBLED? Holy moly. Part of that is at
the expense of the aquifer that feeds west Kansas, which is another reason we need to do away with that particular subsidy, but the mere fact that we
can DOUBLE our corn output during a period of Earth history given to drought is nothing short of amazing.
Troubling, though, is that we rely heavily on a small number of crops. Scientists have been warning us for years about that, and now some staples are
coming under fire of "rust" and other blights. Time to innovate, in a hurry, and time to get those developed nations to stop banning GM foods.
The most tragic bit about the food crisis is that, even factoring out people living in deserts, in countries that got lazy about ag, and countries in
turmoil, there's been mismanagement of croplands, an overdependence on chemicals, and so on, it's largely a financial one. With the housing market
bottoming out and banks determined to not cut their losses, and with the various central banks bailing 'em out, hedgefunds, 401k plans, etc. are
pumping their money into commodities causing the food prices to skyrocket. There's almost no need for as many people to go hungry as there are,
other than to save a few peoples' wealth.
Finally, how many of us posting on the board have known a single day without the thread of nuclear annihilation?
And climate change? Read up on some paleoclimatology and tell me the current conditions are bad.
Is the potential for disaster high? Yes. Are there too many humans? Yes. Is it that bad? I don't think so, and so far it's not that bad for my
family, but I also don't think it's great.
Now, damn this global warming, I need to put on another layer of clothes to stay warm...