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reply posted on 27-4-2008 @ 07:37 AM by agent149
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Heres the thing....these so called cops are only tough with a gun...in America your cops are absolute pussies ruining a great country. Get any one of
those cops on his own in a room out of the way of prying eyes and he or she is just a little scared person...with no firearm. world wide people take
the piss out of the American police force....non educated and brain dead. But each one on thier own is just a little girl sucking on the tit of their
mothers.
germany, France, Britain, Japan, Australia...they all mock your police for this reason....unfortunate as America is such a great country being ruined
by these types of people.
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reply posted on 27-4-2008 @ 12:46 PM by poet1b
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Did you kill these armed assailants as you stated you would if someone pulled a gun on you?
Sounds like in this situation you vaguely describe, you stayed cool used your head and survived.
"In fact, in one situation, I would have been dead if I had pulled the firearm I was carrying."
Had the groom in question used his head and stayed cool, and responded to men with guns by slowly placing his hands in full view and telling his
companions to do the same, to try and assess the situation, he would be alive today.
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reply posted on 27-4-2008 @ 01:14 PM by TheRooster
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Fox news reported this morning the City of Chicago intends to arm non-swat officers with M4 Carbines to combat the recent escalation in violence. A
tactitcal military assault weapon in the hands of beat officers, why do I think this can only get uglier?
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reply posted on 27-4-2008 @ 03:28 PM by jackinthebox
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A similar topic is being discussed in this thread, regarding assault rifles in NYC subways...
www.abovetopsecret.com...'
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reply posted on 27-4-2008 @ 03:30 PM by jackinthebox
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Sounds like in this situation you vaguely describe, you stayed cool used your head and survived.

I shoved the gunman in front of a passing bus. I don't know if he survived.
EDIT to add: I was also lucky enough to escape a spray of machine-pistol fire from his accomplice standing across the street as I rounded a corner
and fled.
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reply posted on 27-4-2008 @ 03:56 PM by jackinthebox
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One thing that really stands out to me in this case, is that these officers were in straight "thug-mode" as a part of their operation, drinking and
all. I wonder what their BAC was at the time of the shooting. Badge or no badge, there are plenty of thug-cops out there. Here is an example of what
nice guys cops are...
(Notice - Video contains profanity and raw subject matter)
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reply posted on 28-4-2008 @ 01:00 AM by realshanti
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That shooting was nothing new.....police have been shooting down Black men in this country for no damn good reason since the first Africans were
brought here in chains....ain't nothin new here except now and then they get a black brother to help them do it occasionally.....
Let me know when it happens on the upper west side to a stockbroker coming out of a strip club - that would be something new....
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reply posted on 28-4-2008 @ 01:12 AM by scarlett1125
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I abhor the acts of these officers as I have yet to see any evidence that gave them the right to shoot as they did. However, it is illogical to shun
all police officers because of the actions of a few. It is logical to hold those whose actions are abhorrent accountable for what they have done. Yet
our government/judicial branch seems unable or unwilling to do this. That judge has probably seen those officers in his own court more than once, so
his judgment is necessarily biased. It was wrong that those officers not have a jury trial. For that matter, make the entire jury up of other officers
who have the same experience and background in dealing with such situations. My understanding is that cops aren't supposed to shoot to kill, but only
to stop and apprehend. This was obviously not the case in the Bell case, yet they are getting off scott free? Something tells me that things are not
entirely as they appear.
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reply posted on 28-4-2008 @ 02:47 AM by jpm1602
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The judiciary shirked their responsiblility to impose applicable aggravated homicide charges, at the least manslaughter. Saying 'proer procedures
were not followed but not criminal'. LOL, since when is it NOT criminal to shoot at an unarmed man 53 times on his wedding nite.
That means if I pull out a cell phone and it throws a glint I can expect to be shot with assault rifles by the newly appointed subway goons?
Plus NY saved millions in wrongful death claim. Now Sharpton is calling for dissenters to shut city down. More than likely leading to mayhem and
'more' killing. It is well known blacks are stopped and searched in NY far more than whites.
He really was killed twice. The judge should be banished from the bar. Why was it not a 'jury' trial?
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reply posted on 28-4-2008 @ 04:08 AM by _Del_
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A trial by jury is the right of the defendant. It is there as a check against state power. You may waive your right to a trial by jury for a bench
trial.
And no departmental policy is ever shoot to wound/disable. That is ridiculous. And, yes. If you're in the subway, and the cop tells you to put your
hands up, but you pull out your cell phone, and it glints like a weapon they may very well shoot you.
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reply posted on 28-4-2008 @ 10:18 AM by dbates
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Originally posted by EyesWideShut
My friend are you slow or stupid?
The cold hard fact & truth is an unarmed man was shot multiple times & killed unlawfully. 
Maybe I'm slow and stupid but running over someone with a car is still considered lethal in all 50 states. He didn't have a gun but that's not to
say he didn't have a lethal weapon.
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reply posted on 28-4-2008 @ 02:25 PM by jackinthebox
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Why was it not a 'jury' trial?

A jury trial is the right of the accused. If you were up on charges, you could opt for no jury as well, and leave your fate in the hands of the judge.
The younger brother of a person I went to school took this option when he accidentally blew someone away with a shotgun at a keg party.
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reply posted on 28-4-2008 @ 02:27 PM by jackinthebox
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Maybe I'm slow and stupid but running over someone with a car is still considered lethal in all 50 states.

I don't believe this was proven. Even if it was, I would not find it unreasonable that Sean Bell might use his car to defend himself against armed
attackers who were shooting at him.
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reply posted on 28-4-2008 @ 02:32 PM by CoNsPiRaCy PhReAk
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This is just un-called for! There must of been some sort of explanation of what happened! Is there any other information about this?
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reply posted on 1-5-2008 @ 12:07 AM by poet1b
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Wow, sounds like you lead an intersting life, or just live in a very bad neighborhood.
Ok, if the groom at the heart of this tragic story thought he could get away, I don't blame him for trying, especially if he thought he was being
attacked by some regular joe and not a cop. I have never had a gun pointed at me with any intent, so I don't know for sure how I would react.
This is what bothers me about this situation. Why in the world are cops working strip clubs to catch hookers? Instead of blaming the cops for bad
decisions in a bad situation, we should be rethinking these morality laws that create more crime and corruption than they prevent.
The real problem is that we have a justice system that is more about insuring jobs than protecting the public, and this is why the cops are not going
to be held responsible. Police activities keep a whole lot of people employed enabling them to collect generous pensions when they retire, and that
includes the judges at the top of the pyramid. It is the whole system that is corrupt.
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reply posted on 1-5-2008 @ 06:12 PM by jackinthebox
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Star for that post. And as far as my interesting life goes, I guess you could call it that. I've spent some time in bad neighborhoods, but have had
guns pulled on me in nice neighborhoods too. In fact, once right down the street from a Presidential home.
EDIT to add: And I was shot in the fourth grade on my way home from school.
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