Heh! I left you guys a message. Hopefully I wasn't rambling on and on and on. I was hoping to get to talk to one of you guys. Let me know if you want me to call back and have an actual discussion on this.

Got the message.... thanks. Since this is a SOUND OFF we only want folks opinions about the incident.... preferable like you did on our toll free or in written form that Johnny and I may select for our discussion.

As always, thanks for your support.

Your Bud....

Dave

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[edit on 4/25/2008 by Dave Rabbit]

What can I even say about this.

We live in a police state.

I had a run in with the boys in blue, and got real lucky that I didn't become swiss cheese.

Bloomberg says that nothing will bring the poor fellow back. A father of two, husband to be, lost.

So I guess Bloomberg, and NYC think it's ok that these cops are free to make the same mistake again and again. This is a green light for cops across the country to shoot first and not even bother asking questions, because apparently cops are always right no matter how insane their actions are.

I'd call you but i'd have to hide, so i wont.

That should tell you how I feel about this "most unfortunate incident"

You'd think it wouldn't matter much to the judicial system to put away a couple of bad apples for doing something like this. Maybe now they're not trying to cover up, but to actually drive the message home to the public, that they are living in a police state.

I cant see any other reasoning for not punishing these two guys for utterly failing to do their jobs. It would do too much damage to the judicial system and cops as a whole. Why would the system be willing to take the shedloads of criticism coming their way, just for the sake of two men?

AND YOU WERE EXPECTING WHAT?

If a cop tells you to stop, you stop like you are playing freeze tag and pray that you don't get killed. The police have been getting away with murder since the first law man began collecting a paycheck for enforcing that law. There is nothing new about this. Read some history. In most other countries is it far worse. The authorities do what ever they want, and unless they mess with someone more powerful in the government, they don't worry about a thing.

Unfortunately cops deal with scum on a daily basis, and they tend to see everyone as a criminal, and that is why when a cop tells you to stop, you stop, or risk losing your life. You hold your hands out away from your side, look off into space so that the cop knows he is fully in control, and you do what you are told, and hope to get through the moment as quickly as possible, unless you are a criminal, and then you shoot and run and keep on running.

So don't reach for you id, don't think you can just drive off, don't believe for a moment that you have any options but to do exactly as you are told, cause that is the way it is and always has been.

What else you gonna think.

This makes me sick on so many levels. One thing is for sure now though, I am going to take the plea-bargain offered to me for being beat up and tased on my own front porch by two rookies.

I think this should be a defining moment for all Americans, regardless of color. The police are now, clearly, the enemy of the people in all certainty.

I have worked closely with police for many years, but never again will I put on a uniform. I have friends and family who are Law-Enforcement Officers. I will now shun them until they turn in their shields.

To any officers out there who think they really are still the good guys, I implore you to take a good hard look at where this country is headed, and choose your side. The frog has been boiled. Time is up.

Case closed.

I have family and friends who are law enforcement agents. I WILL NOT shun them until they give up their shields unless they are corrupt. I WILL encourage them, if they are the just people I believe them to be, to continue to provide the much need law enforcement services our society needs. As for the cops that got off free in this case. Their being off free remains to be seen. There is still civil court and internal affairs to deal with. As for the young man who was unjustifiably killed by police shooting 50 rounds at him. May he rest in peace and hopefully this type of situation does not occur again. And whether it is right or wrong for the cops to have shot this man, everyone!!! Use some good sense, since you now have seen what can happen because of this case. If the police say, "Stop!"
Then by all means stop and comply. Live to see another day and seek justice. Being right and dead at the same time do little to help anyone else and nothing to help yourself. Just my rant.

[edit on 25-4-2008 by kyred]

MajKarma

You don't have a clue what I am saying. You think I approve of this situation? Why were the police there? Looking for a prostitution ring. Why? Because we have more laws than any society should ever have.

Stop letting the authorities play you like a baby grand piano and start thinking. Never vote for more laws, more police, more military, or more restrictions of any kind. Most importantly, don't give the police a cheap excuse to shoot you, cause they will happily comply. There are more things wrong with this situation than you can point a stick at. Stop doing stupid things so that people want more police and more jails.

about 3 months ago,,,,it was brought up about how these cops choose a trial by judge not jury,,,,,,,i knew right then it would be a innocent verdict.

this is disgusting and sickening,,,,,, we should be rioting in the streets!!!!

of course we will all forget about it in a week or so,,,,,we are definitley bombarded with info,, to much,,, so we just move on to the next outrage,,,, and with so many outrages,,, it's hard to fight them all and keep up.

hopefully with sharpton on the case,,, it will stay mainstream

this is craaaazy
Riots are usually something i don't condone but this is warrant of riot...
I live in south florida(Miami/ Ft.Lauderdale/Palm Beaches)
and we had a cop killing free going on over the summer a little of it got national attention which is what is expected considering how miami law is very secretive in how they allow information to spread...

At first i thought that the killers were wrong .. why are they killing the people who are ment to protect us?

then you read about cases like this where an un armed man is shot 50 time ? wtf !!!!
that's BS from fattest cow

If me and my friend shot a cop 50 times this conversation wouldn't be happening i'd be in prison looking at some serious time or some type of death penalty

which is what i believe should happen to these officers

Do unto others as you would done unto you

well 50 bullets to each cop involved

every one in favor ? say I

you guys have gots to be kidding me...50 hsots!!!NO WAY is their ever any justification for something like that!!!I live in NY and EVERYONE was floored by the verdict!!!well from now on cops stop someone in my crew...we ready for whatever..i dont think people understand..its war 3rd estate against 1st estate!!!

One does not have to be a cop hater to be outraged by this. Any sane person would call for these cowards' head on a pike with the complicit judge on a post as well, ala Vlad Tepis style. I'm most interested in reading the apologist sentiment from the law enforcement crowd on this forum, pleading with us to understand the plight of our poor officers on "the front lines" as they are so fond of reffering to it. My question is what front line of what war? The war against us I would surmise.
I don't care what your argument is, if you are so scared for your life in your profession that you find it necessary to execute an unarmed man with 50 #ing shots, I disrespectfully advise you to entertain a change in careers, to something you're more suited for. Like mopping up puke at the amusement park, or perhaps picking up dog# in the park....less to fear.....for all of us.

[edit on 26-4-2008 by morthn1waytoskinacat]

[edit on 26-4-2008 by morthn1waytoskinacat]

Even though i think alot of black people cause there own problems, this is a disgrace of a verdict. How can they justify, shooting 50 times into one unarmed person.

They are right not to riot though, but heck, even i am disgusted by this decision.

I always say the police aree just there to murder who they want, and to see this case. If you do a profile of the people who join the police, we all know what types join them.

I worked for the police in oxford(uk), for 2 days back 10 years ago, and was disgusted by them.

can I skype you guys instead of the toll free number - which dont apply to the UK - as I would like to sound off on this one.

If so, what's the number?

Cheers,

MSP